PC 10-26-94
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CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue
cupertino, CA 95014
(408) 777-3308
MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION HELD ON OCTOBER 26, 1994
ORDER OF BUSINESS - Called to order at 6:45 p.m.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
ROLL CALL
commissioners Present:
Chr. Mahoney
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberts
Com. Harris
Com. Austin
Staff Present: Robert Cowan, Director of Community Development
ciddy Wordell, city Planner
Bert viskovich, Director of Public Works
Charles Kilian, city Attorney
Consultants Present: Don Woolfe, Don Skinner, Leon Pirofalo, PRA.
APPROVAL OF MINlJTES
october 6, 1994.
Com Harris amended the minutes of October 6, 1994 as follows:
1. Page 6, last paragraph, add the sentence "If uplisted to
endangered species status, there must be approval from USF&W."
after the word "...protected."
2. Page 9, Regarding Mr. Hopkins comments, it should be added to
the minutes, that Mr. Hopkins stated he did not visit the
site. Com. Harris stated it is important to have this comment
in the minutes as it will cast a different light on his
remarks.
3. Page 10, John Gibbs comments, 7th sentence, should read "The
part of the seminary property near the park staging area would
be a valuable addition to the park.
4. Page 11, 4th paragraph, comment #2, to read "Regarding
secondary access, with no nexus, you can't require it."
MOTION:
Com. Austin moved to approve the minutes of October 6,
1994, as amended
Com. Doyle
Passed 5-0
SECOND:
VOTE:
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - Letter from coyote Creek Raparian station
POSTPONEMENTS/REMOVALS FROM CALENDAR - None
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
PUBLIC HEARING
1.
Application NO(S):
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
l-GPA-93 and 6-EA-93
Diocese of San Jose
Same
Assessor Parcel Numbers 342-52-3, 342-5-
54, -56, -59, -60 Located south of I-280,
west of Foothill Boulevard and north of
Rancho San Antonio county Park and Sevens
Creek Blvd.
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT to change the land use designation from Very
Low Density Residential 5-20 acre slope density to very Low Density
Residential Foothill Modified 1/2 acre slope density with a cap of
293 units.
The Diocese
amendment.
alternatives
of San Jose applied for the above General
The City Council directed that a total of
be analyzed in the Environmental Impact Report.
Plan
ten
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: An Environmental Impact Report was
prepared. Ten alternatives were evaluated. Significant impacts
identified related to loss of and intrusion into open space lands;
elimination of potential park lands; loss of and intrusion into
natural vegetation, wildlife habitat and wetland areas; exposure to
adverse geologic conditions; storm run-off erosion and pollution;
wildfire hazard; visual impacts; water tank failure and leakage;
and safety of school crossings.
staff Presentation: ci ty Planner Wordell presented the staff
report noting the purpose of this meeting is the following:
1 Determine if there are any outstanding issues that must be
resolved prior to deciding to consider an amendment;
2. Determine if an amendment should be considered, and what the
goals are for considering an amendment.
Planner Wordell stated the major topics to discuss when considering
an amendment are the following: Private open space; public open
space; housing; fiscal impacts; vegetation/wildlife; public
services; other.
Chr. Mahoney asked each commissioner if there is any data they need
in order to decide if they should consider a General Plan
Amendment?
Com. Roberts stated he would like to address visual impacts. Com.
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Harris stated she would like to discuss the issue of EMF's at a
public hearing.
The Commissioners discussed the public input. city Attorney Kilian
stated the Planning commission can close the public hearing or keep
it open. The Commission agreed to continue the public hearing at
this time.
Mr. Melvin Caldwell, 10300 E. Estates Drive, stated this property
was passed, down from the Diocese of San Francisco along with many
churches In debt. He stated the Planning commission should
consider the Diocese of San Jose as the property owner. Mr.
Caldwell read an editorial from the San Jose Mercury News regarding
this issue, written approximately four years ago. He stated he
would suggest clustering the homes and preserving the open space.
Ms. Nadine Grant, speaking on behalf of Oaks, spoke in support of
the General Plan EIR adequacy review process and noted this gets
confused with the amendment application process. She stated these
processes should be kept discrete since the EIR certification must
proceed with any amendment application process. She stated there
are a number of items which are outstanding in the EIR specifically
and there are no answers to Kendal Blau's comments regarding noise
and schools. She noted there is an inadequacy in the EIR regarding
schools and noted the dollars being presented as going to the
schools are slightly misleading if one does not understand the
State funding process. She noted the study used for the traffic
analysis is questionable and needs to be looked at. She added
given the new information received at this meeting regarding the
red legged frog and no hydrological habitat analysis report, the
EIR is not ready for certification. Regarding the amendment, OAKS
is against any amendment until the EIR is certified. She noted
when the DEIR is certified they suggest that the objectives the
commission define at this meeting regarding the proposal should
include not only the parameters for economic impact, but also for
land use precedence setting.
Ms. Mavis smith, 22734 Majestic Oak way, believes that the Planning
commission do not have enough information to decide on the EIR.
She noted there is a lot of concern about traffic and there will be
more people in less space. She stated an access road onto Stevens
Creek Blvd. will impact the surrounding properties and water
supply.
Ms. Diane Moreno Ikeda, FAIR, spoke in favor of the General Plan
Amendment and ratifying the EIR. She stated the current General
Plan scatters the development over 209 acres, but under the
proposed amendment the proposal of up to 192 units is consistent
with the current General Plan goals in that it preserves the front
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hill as open space, preserves the western slope, preserves the
Raparian environment as open space, guarantees pUblic access to
open space, and clusters the development. She stated the open
space is approximately 65% public and 10% private which IS a
positive step forward. She noted the General Plan Amendment was
recommended by the Parks and Recreation Commission in their recent
report.
Mr. Joe Tembrock, 20771 Scofield Dr., Co-Chair FAIR, spoke in
support of the permanently dedicated open space and the Parks and
Recreation Commission's recommendation that would dedicate 130
acres as public land. He stated the Diocese's proposal is a very
beneficial way of obtaining public land near an expensive urban
area. Regarding trees, Mr. Tembrock stated the native trees and
vegetation on the land can be enjoyed by all.
Mr. Bob Gray, Mayor Pro-Tem, Los Altos, stated the council of Los
Altos unanimously passed a resolution addressing their concerns
about the proposed development. He stated a number of people
discussed their concerns at their Council meetings. Mr. Gray noted
that the residents in Cristo Rey area will be impacted by the
increase in traffic and their quality of life would be impacted.
He also noted that property values will decrease and believes this
development would be a taking. He stated this development will not
provide any mitigation to residents of Los Altos and asked the
Planning commission to strongly consider access roads into
Cupertino.
Com. Harris questioned Mr. Gray's comments regarding "a taking"?
city Attorney Kilian stated this is not a taking.
Mr. Gray stated it is a taking of the residents quality of life not
of property. He stated he did not intend this as a legal term, but
a moral term.
Ms. Betty Thysen, resident of the Forum, expressed concern about
the proposed General Plan Amendment and the decrease in the quality
of life. She stated people who use San Antonio Park use it to get
away from urban crowding. She stated it is her understanding that
the houses proposed will be very expensive and added she is not in
favor of the General Plan Amendment.
Mr. Steven Haze, 22681 San Juan Rd., speaking on behalf of the
Committee For Green Foothills, stated he has been involved in this
issue since the 1980 General Plan and was involved in the first
development proposal of this property. He stated when the General
Plan was adopted in 1993, the Hillside Development policy was put
into affect, as a result this property was allowed: 36 homes in a
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21 acre development envelope; 177 acres as private open space; zero
acres for public; zero trails and no public benefit except for
visual. He stated the Diocese is now before the Planning
commission and they have proposed, through conceptual site plans,
to do the following: 192 units based on economic viability, on 54
acre development envelope; 12 acres as private open space; 138
acres as public open space and approximately three trails which
will support a recreational gateway into the most popular park in
the County. He stated this is substantial public benefit as agreed
by the Committee for Green Foothills.
Mr. Graig Breon, 22221 McClellan Rd., Santa Clara Valley Audubon
Society, asked what the commission will be voting on?
Chr. Mahoney stated the Commission will be required in the
amendment to specify the new upper limit and be more specific.
Mr. Breon stated, under the current legal situation, it may be
easier to say no for specific reasons and not to engage in trading
with the property owners. He stated in someway it may be legally
preferable to say no and let the developer come back with another
proposal. He stated he would urge the Commission, in their
discussion, to explain to the public the fundamental principals on
which they are basing their decisions. He added the EIR seems to
be grounded in environmental issues and hopes this continues.
Ms. Diane Haze, 22681 San Juan Rd., stated a multi-use trail from
Stevens Creek to Rancho San Antonio would benefit the community.
It would reduce traffic on Cristo Rey Drive as well as allow for
more park usage with less use of the parking area. She stated this
would be an exceptional addition and the General Plan should be
amended to accommodate this trail.
Mr. Vince Donohue, 21533 Conradi a ct., stated there is a fairness
issue. He spoke in support of the General Plan Amendment to allow
the property owners to developer their property. He added that the
Diocese has reduced the number of homes and he supports the new
proposal.
Mr. Don MCKenzie, 10114 Parkwood Dr., stated he is a past Planning
commission and involved in the General Plan which the Commission
are now discussing amending. He stated he spoke in favor of the 5-
20 acre land use designation, but disagrees as to where the line is
drawn. He stated, it is his belief, looking at the topographical
map, that there is a natural line of were the 5-20 acre designation
should begin. He stated this line should not follow the property
line. He noted the Diocese is proposing a double subdivision one
area for public open space and the other for development. He added
a General Plan Amendment should be looked at as there is a need for
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housing and this cannot be solved in just one location.
Ms. Nicole Smith, 10317 Cold Harbor Ave., addressed the multi use
trail and spoke in favor of this as it will keep horses off the
roads.
Mr. Phil Valdez, 282 Almaden, San Jose, spoke in favor of a General
Plan Amendment. He stated it is important to keep the Spanish
origin in Cupertino.
Fr. Michael Mitchell, Diocese of San Jose, stated, with regards to
the Caretakers house, Governor wilson signed ABl33, which relates
to civic organizations and buildings for preservation. He stated
there is the problem with the religious organization owning
historic property and it is more difficult to preserve a heritage
facility. He stated he just wanted the commission to be aware of
this and are reserving their rights to a hearing on this matter.
Com. Harris questioned Mr. Haze's comments?
Mr. Haze stated he is speaking in favor of the Planning commission
recommending to the city Council that they review and determine if
a General Plan Amendment should occur. He spoke in favor of the
hillside policy, but noted its applicability is what is in
question. He added if there is substantial public benefit, and the
open space proposed is, then it is incumbent upon the Planning
commission to entertain the amendment proposal. He believes if
this land remains under private ownership a future city council
could allow development.
Com. Austin stated after reading all the materials, listening to
public input and touring the property she is not in favor of a
General Plan Amendment. She stated the higher the density the
higher the impact and al ternati ve one would be the only viable
choice for her. She stated after touring the property, she
believes that the Seminary site is the most sensitive site in the
whole area. She expressed concern about visual impacts and the
precedence the Commission would be setting by setting aside the
hillside policy. Com. Austin stated a goal which came out of the
goals committee was to preserve the hillsides and allow more
development along the transit corridors. She stated Cristo Rey
area is not appropriate for development for several reasons. She
stated traffic is a big concern and is an existing problem which
further development would compound. She stated she is opposed to
making the emergency access a permanent road because of the high
truck use in this area. She also expressed concern about the
impact on libraries, fire and police. She stated the larger the
homes, the greater the visual impact. Com. Austin presented her
comments in writing to staff.
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She noted the hydrological study should be addressed in the EIR.
Com. Doyle stated he would like more information on the Water Tank
and the Raparian corridor (what is the appropriate protection). He
noted a benefit of the amendment is the public open space, he
stated he would like to understand the options. He stated he is
not clear on the impact on the red legged frog and has some
questions regarding the financial impact on schools. He noted if
the above questions and concerns could be addressed adequately he
would be in favor of approving the EIR and a General Plan
Amendment.
Com. Roberts stated there is a lot information to consider and he
would not be ready to recommend certification of the EIR or a
General Plan Amendment at this time. He believes it was an unwise
decision when they decided to simplify the preparation analysis of
the EIR by leaving out a lot of alternatives.
Chr. Mahoney stated other alternatives can be evaluated.
Com. Roberts stated he believes the following are deficiencies in
the EIR:
- Excessive sacrifice of large trees on the Seminary property, pay
special attention to the oak savannas.
_ provision for the Wildlife habitat, not satisfied with this in
the report.
- open space benefits may not serve the desired purpose when broken
up into pieces and would it be truly accessible to the pubic?
_ special attention paid to the endangered species, this is the
city's responsibility.
Com. Roberts stated he would like to see a firm commitment to a
habitat preservation plan, prior to EIR certification. Another
hydrology and habitat study should be done with regards to the
wetlands, the Cristo Rey parcel and the oak woodlands on the
Seminary parcel. He believes the photos in the report are
inadequate and the views presented are distorted. Com. Roberts
stated there has been no talk about the noise impact on the park.
He requested an al ternati ve which addresses the environmental
concerns. Regarding economics and fairness, Com. Roberts stated
there will be a small benefit to the City and a large benefit to
the applicant. He addressed the fairness issue and reviewed the
decision which was made with regards to the Forum project. He
believes the Diocese has been treated generously in the past and
this should be taken into account in the overall analysis. He
expressed concern about precedence setting if the General Plan
Amendment is approved.
City Attorney Kilian addressed the recirculation of the EIR. He
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stated many
recirculation,
commission.
issues have been raised which would
but this will done by a majority vote
require
of the
Com. Roberts stated he is not prepared to consider a GPA based on
the alternatives before them and the information received so far.
city Attorney Kilian stated the purposed of the EIR is to judge
whether an amendment should be considered or not. He noted the
first duty of the Planning commission is to determine whether the
ErR is adequate. He stated if the Planning commission want to
consider another alternative, recirculation is needed.
Planning Director Cowan stated the EIR assessed 10 alternatives,
but they spent more time on six. He noted the plan was to develop
a continuum to enable the Planning Commission to select from all
the alternatives.
Com. Austin left at 8:25 p.m. due to illness.
Mr. Kilian stated that not every inadequacy requires a
recirculation, but maybe just a clarification.
Mr. Don Woolfe, Consultant, stated the EIR was crafted originally
to provide the Planning commission with decision making tools to
evaluate between a range of 36 to 293 units. He noted going from
40 to 50 units is not enough of an impact to do another
alternative. He stated another alternative can be done, but it
takes months to prepare. He stated they are trying to get the
commission to make a decision on the type of change that is
desirable in the General Plan, if any change is desirable. He
added he would caution the Commission not to try to develop more
alternatives that would not result in any meaningful changes to the
EIR.
Com. Harris stated this is an important issue and the public
process is important. She added the EIR was prepared to be
circulated to the public and get feedback. She noted she is not
opposed to amending the EIR to answer some of the issues raised, in
a way that does not require circulation. She stated they need to
deal with the issues that are deemed significant by the community
and the Commission. She stated issues raised, which need to be
addressed are the following:
Multi-use trail addressed by the public.
Second access road, have to decide if it is advisable to
suggest a second access road.
Red legged frog, has not been addressed adequately.
wildlife corridor, Consultants should address this.
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open space benefits issue, not clear about this and would like
it addressed.
Photolization - not adequate.
EMF - needs to be addressed.
Com. Harris addressed Mr. Mackenzie's comments and noted that this
needs to be discussed regarding the property lines and the
designation of the 5-20 acre designation. She stated she would
like a recommendation from staff regarding the De Anza Party trail.
Chr. Mahoney stated he would prefer not to study a number of units
that the Planning commission will not consider. He believes the
EIR is close. He stated that the Planning commission and city
Council have already approved 2500 homes in the General Plan. He
noted this will impact the schools and traffic. He suggested
focusing on specific issues and spend time resolving these. He
noted the project needs to move forward and he would prefer to
spend more time on visual impacts at this time.
In response to Chr. Mahoney's question, Com. Harris stated she is
not opposed to considering an amendment to the General Plan.
Chr. Mahoney spoke in favor of the hillside policy as it stands,
but does not agree were the 5-20 acre line was drawn, as addressed
by Mr. McKenzie. He stated there is a difference in the topography
of the land.
Chr. Mahoney stated he believes the majority of the Commission are
willing to consider a General Plan Amendment at this time.
city Attorney Kilian stated the commission should give direction to
the consultants as to what additional information the Commission
request. He stated if any of the issues are significant
recirculation maybe needed.
Chr. Mahoney suggested that each of the commissioners outline their
three top issues.
Com. Doyle - Visual analysis; Raparian corridor and impact on the
red legged frog; public open space.
Com. Roberts stated he concurs with Com. Doyle, but including
wildlife habitat impacts, such as the red legged frog.
Com. Harris - Water tank; EMF; Traffic circulation
Mr. Woolfe stated he would like clarification as to how much detail
the commissioners would like in the areas listed above.
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Corn. Harris stated she would like more public review regarding the
Water tank and the EMF's. She also noted she would like a
paragraph summarizing the school district's view. Corn. Doyle
stated he would also like information from the school district
regarding economics.
Mr. Cowan stated they will have the school district personnel corne
back and give a presentation.
Corn. Harris stated she would like a staff recommendation on the
advisability of a second access.
Mr. Cowan stated they will look into this and do a comparison study
with other areas within the city.
Regarding public open space, Chr. Mahoney stated he would like more
information on the accessibility and maintenance. He also
requested more data on private vs. public open space.
The commission requested more information on the trails discussed
and the caretakers house, as addressed by Fr. Mitchell.
Regarding wildlife and Vegetation the commission requested more
information on the appropriate Raparian setback and how far the
existing impervious coverage is from the creek. They would also
like more information on the Red legged frog.
Mr. Woolfe stated Mr. Hopkins from H.D. Harvey will look into the
Reg legged frog issue.
commissioners also requested more information on the wildlife
transit corridor. Corn. Roberts requested a hydrology study done
before making any recommendations. He expressed concern about
approving a specific number of units and not being able to go
lower.
city Attorney Kilian stated the commission can approve up to a
certain number of units.
city Planner Wordell pointed out that the cost of a hydrology study
would be approximately $16,000 to $22,000 and would take about two
months to complete. Mr. Woolfe stated the participants of a
hydrology study would be a biologist, a hydrologist and an
engineer. He added it is a unique study.
city Planner Wordell stated they will corne back with several
alternatives regarding the red legged frog and the hydrology.
Corn. Roberts stated there are a number of large trees on the
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seminary property and the EIR is vague with regards to these. He
stated he would like to know if more can be saved.
Mr. Woolfe stated the arborists report makes a recommendation to
save as many trees as possible and the accurate number will not be
available until the final plans are approved. He noted the EIR
assumes the worse case.
city Planner Wordell stated the arborists report relates more to
the eucalyptus trees and believes most of the oaks could be saved.
She stated she will look into this further.
Mr. Woolfe stated the eucalyptus trees form the visual screen
between the Forum and st. Joseph's seminary property. He added the
trees that have been identified in the report as being structurally
unsound or diseased, would have to be removed regardless of the
project. He stated this is mentioned in the EIR. He stated their
recommendation is to preserve as many trees as possible through
careful site planning.
Regarding visual impact, Mr. Woolfe stated if the questions are on
the accuracy of the photomontage, the consultants can give a
presentation. He noted the initial seven view points were
identified during a field trip involving City and County personnel,
the Opens Space District, the applicant, as well as a private
consul tant. He stated the view taken from the Water tank was
suggested by Mid-Peninsula.
Mr. Skinner stated they did look at a viewpoint from a higher
location and came to the conclusion that the view from the water
tank would show a more dramatic impact.
The Commissioners discussed the possibility
montage from a higher view point on the trails.
to prepare a photo montage was discussed and
agreed to obtain a photo of this viewpoint.
of another photo
The cost and time
the commissioners
The Commission discussed the benefits to the City and the applicant
and Mr. Cowan stated he will provide a report to the commissioners
regarding the number of units approved at the Forum.
Regarding the fairness issue, City Attorney Kilian stated this is
not relevant to the EIR certification process, but it may have some
bases in determining a General Plan amendment, because a person is
entitled to reasonable use of their property.
Com. Roberts stated the EIR does not address housing. Ms. Wordell
stated the housing element is certified with 36 units on this
property.
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city Attorney Kilian stated the housing element needs to be
considered in determining whether a General Plan Amendment should
be granted.
Mr. Kilian stated Com. Austin should review the tapes of this
meeting before the next meeting.
The Commission and staff discussed topic items for the next
meeting. Mr. Woolfe stated with the number of issues raised and
responses requested, they could not cover all the issues in one
meeting, but will provide some responses in writing.
It was a consensus of the commission to discuss the Diocese and the
Heart of the city at the November 8, 1994 meeting.
SECOND:
VOTE:
ABSENT:
Com. Doyle moved to continue both the Heart
and 1-GPA-93 discussions to the meeting of
1994.
Com. Roberts
Passed
Com. Austin
of the city
November 8,
MOTION:
4-0-1
OLD BUSINESS
ADJOURNMENT: The Planning commission adjourned at 10:30 p.m. to
the meeting of November 8, 1994 at 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
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M. Robillard