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10321 SO. .SARATOGA-SUNNYVALE ROAD . 252-LE505
CITY OF CUPERTINO •
1 Cupertino, California.
MINUTES FOR THE ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, June 11,
1963
Time: 8: 00 P.M.
Place: City Hall Conference Room, 10321 So. Saratoga-Sunnyvale Rd.
ROLL CALL: Commissioners Present: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard,
I • Rampy, Small, Snyder,
Frolich
Others Present: Mr. Walter Ward, with John
Leonard, Mr. Alan Walters;
Mr. Lester, Mr. John Blayney,
of Blayney &. Livingston,
• Mr. Patterson, Varian, and
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Mr. Stuart .Terriberry
. County Planning Department
Mr. Volker presented the Pr '..1minary Master Plan to all those
present, noting that ' it is a culmir, . ion of efforts by the Planning
Commission, City Council and his st ... f. After a month and a half of
review, the finalized plan will be prepared. Neighborhoods 6 and 8
have been carefully examined since the last presentation. In neigh-
borhood 6 more acreage has been devoted to higher density .uses. Even
with Garden Gate continuing in low densitil, there' will be sufficient
additional acreage, including Carriage Oaks, so that total net density
would be 6. 9 per gross acre, opposed to 6. 1 in neighborhood 8.
Additional commercial sites that were not on •the first draw-
ings are shown. 350. to 400 acres of commercial have been distributed;
they are symbolic only; Existing as well as proposed. commercial is
shown, explaining the, perhaps illogical location of some. In addition
to freeways, collector routes are shown in schematic fashion.
Mr. Volker pointed out the "high points" of the Plan. The
Plan is preliminary, and is not -intended to show any recommendations for
any particular properties. This is important because citizens may
feel that a certain .dot is ,in .their front yard, and Would fight it.
The Plan is intended .to be long range, 1980 - 1985 . It is felt most of
Cupertino will have been 'developed at that time . The Civic Center is
not shown, because the question will be examined as to whether or not
. it is large enough. The Plan is for a population of 180, 000, and on
a higher density- basis than presently enjoyed. During the last tabula-
tion; in the last two years, the overall density of 13 people per
acre existed. This will increase to 22 people per acre. This does
not mean there will be 22 people 'i5er' acre in the entire planning area.
Half will have less than half of the 13 we- currently enjoy; •but there
will be higher.-density in the core of the city. Only large acreages
should be allocated for higher density use.
A regional shopping facility is located at the intersection
of the freeway and Highway 9. Because of the likelihood, economically,
of a major facility in the generalized area, south of Sunnyvale,
north of Saratoga, midway between San Jose and Palo Alto, this is
the area that has the acreage. In ten or fifteen years there will
be Some' obsolescence. in the Valley Fair type of development, partly
because of parking. Distance from the freeway location does not make
the Town Center location an ideal one for regional shopping.
Regarding .urban renewal for Monta Vista and Garden Gate, Mr.
Volker said that Garden .Gate is still salvageable, in the whole, and
it does not look like it would go through a renewal program during the
age of the Plan.
Stevens Creek Blvd. should have a tree-planting program down
the center strip to preserve the aura of the orchards that once were.
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Commissioner Fitzgerald wondered if it might not be wise for
the Cupertino Courier to publish the Preliminary Plan before the
Sunnyvale paper. Both papers received the Plan Tuesday, but the
Courier will not be distributed until Thursday.
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• Commissioner Snyder questionecythe KEY, wondering if the
950 acres of high density at 14 dwellings per acre should be shown.
The Commissioner wondered .ifthere should 'be some difference shown in
existing and proposed commercial. Mr. 'Volker. replied that the break-
down could be shown, that school sites ' are handled the same way.
Cth oI signer Leonard suggestedl' that an overlay be prepared
' to•"drop over an aerial photograph, showing multiple at 14 units per
. 'acre, 'where it would be, and what the average would be per chart .
Mr. Volker agreed that this might help; but felt it might be better
a's an appendage, . or presented on a slide. .
Commissioner Leonard commentedi' that the question of ha.;h-rise 411
has come up, that an overlay might give the Commission some direction
in :answering just how much there mighti' be. Commissioner Snyder also
asked where the high rise would be located.
-- Mr. .Volker ..replied that the Town Center and Carriage Oaks
have high rise, that this gets into judgment of the Commission.
- : '.:.Location ..of high rise will depend on location of activity centers.
It would generally be at the heart r. f the intersection of Highway 9
: and Stevens Creek. There are areas the .hills that could lend
p emselves -.to. high rise.
It was requested that recent !?oundary changes be shown on .the
maps. . , . I . .
. . .Commissioner Leonard pointed •out :an' inaccuracyin Neighborhood
414, . the jog in Miller Avenue on which the high school- fronts, is too
far to the left. It •is this sort- o.f thing that •could undermine con
fidence in the entire plan.
Commissioner Fitzgerald asked about the light industrial
shown for Monta Vista, referring to recent multiples going in there.
Mr. Volker replied that it is -felt this would be ultimately renewed,
because of :sufficient depressed areas, With industrial reuse, access
to the freeway, and the presumption that the railroad will go through,
industrial is thought better. • -I
• - Commissioner Fitzgerald asked about the 2& acre site next to
the college. 'There is nothing planneid for it; because it will probably
be used by the college in time. The1Commissioner pointed out that
- there is 5 acres zoned commercial a0Bubb & McClellan: Bollinger .Rd.
' is shown- crossing Stelling, and 'th.e -Commissioner asked how feasible
that is, as the owner may may have sold for multiple before that is
a reality. �, , . .
Commissioner Small had questions about neighborhoods 5 and 10.
Neighborhood #5 is shown. as. low density, and .is high quality- multiple.
The contour of the land is very difficult. On an • R-l .home, there would
• be a 9' drop on each lot . Mr. 'Volker said that density is low because
of the difficulty of building,, .and the resultant loss of land, .• Even
scattered multiple would pull density down because a lot of the land
is• not buildable. .
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There has also been some multiple zoned in #10. R71 is
slow in that area because present development is not of. the best..
Mr. Volker replied that there isn't high .density shown there, there
are 200 acres of medium and low density in #10. Because of the .
depressed situation, it was not felt[ there would be the investment
in high density buildings. Duplexes would be in the medium density
range.
Chairman Frolich asked about a commercial center shown in 411
#7, asking if it was -specifically located, or if' that meant there
would be a center somewhere in the neighborhood. Mr, Volker replied
that it was purposely located there 'to provide services for the
. industrial development. Commissioner .Frolich pointed out there would
be as tendency for that to be a :land locked corner, that a lot of. •
traffic would be going through the Subdivision.
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• Under ASSETS AND LIMITATIONS, Circulation and Traffic,
Chairman Frolich questioned the sentence Accessibility to Cupertino
will mean industrial and commercial opportunities Otherwise not
probab]e. " Mr. Volker replied that ,the intent of the sentence was
to say that because Cupertino is accessible by freeway, there are now
and will be activities that would not have happened in Cupertino.
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1 Commissioner Fitzgerald pointed out that a school site is shown
in the middle of the golf course in §10, and that it has been abandoned.
A parcel of commercial recreational, the only one of its kind, is now
1 shown in low density.
Mr. Stuet: t Terriberry asked about the Southern Pacific right of way,
saying a major thoroughfare is indicated. Mr. Volker said an express-
way to Prospect is planned. Mr. Terriberry also asked about showing
net and gross densities, pointing out that it would be simpler to
,• present the figures if converted to net in the final plan. Mr. Volker
replied that net figures would be shown in the final plan. The County
411 also wondered about a rumor that there would be high density develop-
ments in the hills. The rumor might have started with a trailer park
application, also the Voss application.
t 1 Mr. Blayney felt the research and development shown on
Stevens Creek Road would be desirable, and thought it could be done
to the long-run advantage of property owners .
Mr. Walters asked how the 180,000 ultimate capacity was reached.
Mr. Volker explained that trends were examined, then they took the net
acreage, subtracting industrial and c.ommercial, then distributed a net
figure into the densities based on Lke trends.
Mr. Patterson suggested thac. Pruneridge be shown through to
Wolfe Road. Mr. Volker said that an east-west collector street should
be shown. Mr. Patterson reported that Westwood Oaks homeowners would
like to see it that way.
Commissioner Small commented that the cost of R-1 homes is
going up to the $30, 000 figure because of the cost of land, labor and
materials. He wondered if the possibility of a defunct subdivision
may be facing the City, and if there is a solution. Mr. Volkr asked
if the City wished to lower its standards to combat this. A stock
of used homes is being built, Mr. Blayney pointed out , Also, that
land will remain high because there is a scarcity.
Mr. Ward suggested that nomenclature should be checked on the
final map. Freeways should be namea. Mr. Volker said that the final
map will use a more accurate base.
Commissioner Leonard pointed out that there is some commercial
zoning on the Mariani property in 17.
Monta Vista was again discussed, and Mr. Terriberry suggested
that a resolution from Council stating their wishes, whether a freeze
on zoning, or whatever, would be useful to the County. A joint meeting
with the county was discussed.
Mr. Lester noted that a lot of Monta Vista lots do not have
access . Some of the County Commissioners might not be aware of the
problems. On the Pruneridge extension, cutting off at Tantau, this
e at Junipero interchange san
could be a serious mistake. If there was g
Serra and Wolfe, it would be considered only if Wolfe connected up
with Pruneridge.
Mr. Volker replied that because of the industrial development,
they did not show the Pruneridge extension definitely, but it would
go through.
Commissioner Leonard moved that 10 copies of the minutes and
10 copies of the Preliminary General Plan be gent Sa-<.Ltog: ,.. Sunnyvale
® Santa Clara, San Jose, Los Altos, County Planning Commission, and
the Board of Supervisors. Seconded by Commissioner Fitzgerald. All
in favor.
Commissioner Snyder suggested that Mr. Lester be in charge
of setting up a meeting with the County Planning Commission.
It was moved by Commissioner Fitzgerald, and seconded by
Commissioner Snyder that the City Staff attempt to reserve the Board
Room for a meeting to review the Plan within the next two weeks.
All in favor. • ' - •
Meeting adjourned 10: 15
A VEST APPROVED:
•�".,� • [ /S/ Do;; tld Frolich
-3- Donald Frolich, Chairman
Lawrence K. Martin, City Clerk