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10321 SO. SARATOGA-SUNNYVArE ROAD
AL 2-4505
C I T Y OF' CUP E R T I NO
CUPERTINO J CALIFORNIA
MINUTES OIi' THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANUING COMMISSION: October 9, 1961
PIA cE:
TIME:
10321 So. Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road
8:00 P.M.
I SALUTE TO THE FLAG
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The City Clerk administered Certificate of Appointment and
Oath of Office to Jerry l.'itzgerald.
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II ROLL CALL: Co~nissioners Present: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Frolich,
Leonard, 'Rampy, Snyder, Small
Commissioners Absent: None
Staff Present: City Manager, City Attorney,
City Engineer, City Clerk
III COMMUNICATIONS:
A. \~ritten:
(1) Santa Clara County Planning Department: Santa Clara Valley
Plans, September 1961, No. 16.
(2) f.'lacKay & Somps: Copy of Tract No. 309~, Triumph No.3,
submitted for review.
(3) County of Santa Clara: Summary of Actions, regular
meeting of September 20.
(4) County of Santa Clara: Agenda of October 4.
(S) Tri-County Planning Council: Notice of dihner meeting
October 20 at Swanson! s ~!estlalceBowl, Daly City; program is entitled
Planned Communities, with a panel of Planning Directors from the
Peninsula. Reservations must be made by October 16.
(6) County Planning Commission: Copy of application of George
Morris (Mosher Realty); use permit requested for rehabilitation
sanitarium, north side of old Stevens Creek Roàd uithin Crescent
Road.
Moved by Commissioner Leonard that it would be in order to
wri te the County Planning Commission that Cupertino Planning
Commission knows a little about the application but inasmuch as we
are concerned with upgrading the vicinity we appreciate receipt of
the application and feel assured that the County will 'exercise their
usual good judgment in their disposition of the application.
Seconded by Commissioner Rampy.
AYES:
Commissioners:
Adamo, Fitzgerald, Frolich, Leonard,
Rampy, Snyder, Small
None
None
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NAYS: Commissioners:
ABSENn': Co~missioners:
MOTION CARRIED:
(7) State Department of Finance: Copy of California Plans,
annual report 1960-61, tOl?ether with questionnaire on City planning
(to be completed by staff).
(8) City Manager: Memorandum that the City Council has re-
quested that the Planning Commission review the Sign Ordinance either
by, public hearings or worl: sessions.
The Chairman asked the Building Official, Mr. Benevich, to
attend the hearing on the sign ordinance.
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CommissionG%' L",ona:r>d observed that G€orge Oalces, representing
Rousseau, Hard Crump, Foster &. Kleiser and M. J. ICing have expressed
viewpoints on the sign ordinance and have aslced for review of the
regulations. He suggested that they be notified of the hearing and
invited to attend.
(g) County of Santa Clara: Copy of application of Dobler,
listed as a preliminary subdivision map.
The City Manager said that it appeared to be a sizeable piece
of property and the City policy requires the property to annex to
Cupertino in order to get service from the water department.
Moved by Commissioner Leonard that the matter be referred to
the City Manager. Seconded by Commissioner Adamo.
AYES:
Commissioners:
Adamo, F1 tzgerald, I1rolich, Leonard,
Rampy, Snyder, Small
None
None
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NAYS: Commissioners:
ABSENT: Commissioners:
MOTION CARRIED:
B. Verbal:
The City Clerk reported that Mr. Wright from General Electric
telephQned to say he has received his letter and copy of Ordinance
No. 002(h). He will answer by October 23.
IV HEARINGS SCHEDULED:
A. tvARD CRUMP: Appl1ca tion 1~2-Z-6l to rezone 22 acres on the WE' C
side of Bubb Road, north of Regnart, south of Vai Avenue, from
A-2: B-4 to R-I, property K. Okamura. First Hearing.
Don MacKay represented the applicant. He identified the
property by relation to geographic pOints; the property is bounded
on the sòuth by San Jose Water Works reservoir.
Commissioner Leonard noted that the adjoining properties,
especially the str~et pattern are the concern of the City and he
asked Mr. MacKay if his firm was dOing a study of some of the
adjoining property and if so, to present his views on a possible
feeder road running roughly northwest to southeast, connecting
Bubb Road and the road presently called Mountain View-Stevens Creek
Road. running from Simla Junction to the dam.
The neighborhood plan of the area was posted. Mr. MacKay
outlined the subject property thereon indicating the road pattern
shown. It seems that PG&E wants $1,000 a pole to relocate utility
lines in the Vicinity. However, said Mr. MacKay, once the necessary
zoning is established, he is sure the applicant can work out a
plan that will meet City requirements.
The Chairman called for objections from the audience. There
were none.
COmmissioner Leonard referred to the past variances which he
said indicated that insufficient study had been given to the size and
shape of the house with respect to the size of the lots. He asked
whether ll1ard Crump intends to build houses which are well suited to
the lots which he will present.
Mr. MacKay answered in the affirmative, saying that they already
know many of the engineering features such as ground slope. The
building plans will be in the engineer's office prior to the
preparation of their lot calculations and submission of their
tentative map. He said that the lots could be made 8,000 square
feet if it proved necessary, however the houses will fit the lots
that are presented to the Planning COIlunission for approval.
Commissioner Leonard referred to the information shown in a
recent pamphlet distributed by Santa Clara County, entitled "Green-
ways". The pamphlet described methods to transform utility easements
into parle-like walkways, providing tree shaded paths, places to play,
connectors to neighboring paries, etc., thus avoiding trash collecting
weed patches.
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Commissiòner Snyd~r agr~ed that h~ would 1ik~ to s~~ this
scheme: apnlied to Cupertino. He 'said that it has worked very well
in the City o~ Fremont in the east bay.
Commissioner Leonard asked that the school district be alp.rted
to thE! proposed sUbdivision to see if any problems ,of access may
'occu!'. Regnart K-b school, is situated on the east side of Bubb
Road opposite the proposed sUbdivision, toward the SP RR tracks.
The City Manager asked if the proposed development would be
similar to the houses built by Ward Crllinp on Blaney. Mr. Mac~~y
answered in the a~firmative saying that they would be on the same
order, possibly somewhat larger.
Commissioner Snyder said it would be embarrassing to have
a situation similar to that of Arch Wilson School, where~n the
proper access is not available. He said he would like to see, in
writing, that the school district has beeD notified of the sub-
division and also have a record of their position on the matter.
He also inquired whether the applicant would get a cODY of the check
list by the next meeting inasmuch as the City Council has recently
voted to install this system. '
The City Manager answered in the affirmative, assuming that
sufficient copies of the list are run off by that time.
Moved by Commissioner Leonard that the,fìrst hearing be
closed. Seconded by Commissioner Rampy.
AYES:
Commissioners:
Adamo, Fitzgerald, Frolich. Leonard,
Rampy, Snyder, Small
None
NOne
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NAYS: Commissioners:
ABSENT: Commissioners:
MOTION CARRIED:
B. J. A. MOREING: Application ll-U~6l for Use Permit for a
Standard Oil service station, northwest corner of Blaney and
Bollinger. First Hearing.
The applicant has submitted a letter asking that the hearing
be rescheduled for November 13.
Moved by Commissioner Leonard that the hearing be continued to
said date. Seconded by Commissioner Adamo.
AYES:
Commissioners:
,Adamo, Fitzgerald, Frolich, Leonard,
Rampy, Snyder, Small '
None
None
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NAYS: Commissioners:
ABSENT: Commissioners:
MOTION CARRIED:
D. RF,vISED SUBDIVISION ORDINA.NCE: Hearing on revision of Sub-
division Ordinance No. 47. Continued. '
(Items C and D on the agenda reversed in deference to the
presence of Mr. diLeonardo.)
Mr. diLeonardo represented the Santa Clara County Contr~ctors
and Homebuilders Association with regard to the proposed subdivision
ordinance.
He sàid that the position of his clients are not by any means
adverse to the legislative body. The ordinance is of prime
importance he said, inasmuch as it sets the rules of the game so
to spealc. Most sübdividerss contràcto!'s, and builders have an
interest i~entical to the interest of the City, specifically they
want to develop residential distr~cwwhich are attractive and a
credit to both the owners and the City at large. Their product must
have sales appeal or no profit. Therefore, an attractive subdivision
is the goal of the contractors and builders as well as the object
of the City officials.
With reference to the present ,ordinance he appraisE!d it as a
good piece of work, saying at the same time it is difficult to
provide an ordinance which meets every contingency.
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He referred especially to Section 7.5, on page 13, which re-
quired areas of 2 or less acres bounded on 2 or more sides by the
subdivision to have full street improvements installed.
Mr. diLeonardo said there may be an inequlty here in that
a fair share of improvement burden might not be placed on the ad-
joining property owner. The developer might not be able to acquire
the adjoining property, in order to comply with the section and he
could foresee circumstances in which full street improvements might
meet an almost insuperable obstacle.
Section 13.4 on page 16 concerns land for public use. Where
a proposed park, school, or other public use shown on the master
plan is located in whole or in part within a subdivision, the
developer shall reserve adequate space for such purpose in such
area within the subdivision, to be acquired by the ptlblic agency
when the City Council, upon recommendation of the advisory agency,
feels the requirement to be reasonably necessary to the public
convenience, health, safety or welfare.
Mr. diLeonardo said this séction would present much the same
difficulty as that of a plan line. As an example, he used the
situation wherein school boards have acquired much property which
they have sold at some later date without using It for a school
site. This is inevitable he said, in that projectlons and assump-
tions have to be made and they do not always hold up. When such a
public development does not come to pass it puts the O~TIer of the
property in a difficult position if, as the section indicates, the
property must be reserved indefinitely. Mr. diLeonardo proposed
that in the event a developer owns a piece .of property on which some
public facility is proposed, that the proper public agency purchasr
the site immediately so that the owner or developer can proceed wi.. ,
the remainder of the property. He said that it would put the owner
or potential builder in a dj,fficult, if not impossible, situation
if he was continually faced with this "reserved" piece of property,
not Imowing when the public agency was gOing to acquire or develop
it. He agreed that public jurisdictions may and will be required
to reserve sites for schools, parks, etc. However, he said that
with the power of eminent domain the practice of reserving the
8i tes indefinitely worlcs a hardship on owners and builders, so much
so that they would be discouraged from development. Therefore, he
suggested that a time limit for the acquisition of such properties.
Therefore, the public agency should Þµy it up or condemn it. He
added there is a grave risk of serious financial loss in buying a
piece of property only to find that certain lands are reserved for
some future date. It would be a rare developer who would proceed
if he bought a piece of property contingent on no land reservations
The Chairman referred to a letter from Henry D. Gilbert, chair-
man of the Subdivision Ordinance Committee A.C.E.L.S.C.C. The
letter made 13 suggestions for changes in the proposed ordinance.
The City Attorney said that he has prepared a resolution answer-
ing Gilbert's letter and that he will submit this resolution to the
Planning Commission and sub-committee.
Commissioner Leonard suggested that the ordinance be referred to
a work session and then back to the regular agenda after receiving
the recommendation of the sub-committee.
The Chairman apPointed a sub-committee as follows: Commissioners
Fitzgerald, Adamo and Small with Commissioner Snyder as chairman.
Moved by Commissioner Leonard that the subdivision ordinance be
continued to the next regular meeting, October 23, with the sub-
committee report on the ordinance as originally presented and taking
into consideration the letter from the civil engineering association
and the verbal presentation of Mr. diLeonardo, together with the
resolution to be presented by the City Attorney. Seconded by
Commissioner Fitzgerald.
AYES:
Commissioners:
Adamo, Fitzgerald, Froli,ch, Leonard,
Rampy, Snyder and Small
None
None
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NAYS: Commissioners:
ABSENT: Commissioners:
MOTION CARRIED:
Commissioner Leonard said he would attend and act as liaison
to the City Attorney.
C. PAUL MARIANI, SR. & MATHILDA SOUSA: Application 41-Z-6l to
rezone 1,314' x 337' at the southeast corner of Lucille & Highway 9
from A-2:B-L~, R-3-H and R-l to C-I-H. Second I-rearing Continued.
Paul Mariani, Jr., referred to management-consultant or
expert situations and stated that consultants do not make decisions
for the management group. He recalled that his other applications
have been presented to much the same commission with the exception
of two new members.
The Junipero Serra Freeway makes commercial zoning logical
at this location. He emphasized that the o~~ers are not requesting
a change of zoning on that portion to be taken by the State.
(Legal description submitted with application covers entire property)
The desirability of a more restrictive ordinance in the
commercial category has already been discussed, he said, and the
owners are amenable to any more restrictive commercial zoning
ordinance adopted within the next 12 months. He said he felt that
former objections have been pretty well met, Mr. Black of the
Division of Highways has indicated that design has been fairly
well crystalized for a diamond type interchange. Saying that it is
extremely important to have an interchange of adequate capacity,
he contended that the points of co~mercial zoning could persuade
the Division of Highways that a cloverleaf would be necessary to
accommodate the additional traffic generated by a commercial
district.
He noted that hiring of a City consultant seems to have been
delayed and referred to the fact that he has engaged the Riches
Research company from Palo Alto to do a study of the area. Their
study supported a commercial zone for some 400 acres embracing the
area now on the agenda, as well as his tabled applications. ~r.
Mariani said that the cr~ter~a which reopened the question (of the
interchange) was a presentation identical to that of Riches
Research. Let it not happen too late for the design department
of the State Highways. He said he could not em~.asize enough the
importance of what the la¡1d plan will be and the attendant
traffic pattern and fl01l., He predicted that this ..¡ould be the
busiest interchange in the City.
He said that his second main point was not as strong, but
concerned the nature of the development he has in m:Lnd. He said he
could not reveal further details except to say that it would be good
for the City as well as fo!' the land owners. He has been told by
this party to see them when the property is zoned; otherwise they
are not interested.
He concluded by saying that the cloverleaf at Highway 9 and
Junipero Ser!'a Freeway is a "dead duck" unless the City declares
its intention for the neighboring prope~ties.
The Chairman reviewed the application with the measurement
asking specifically if the application is supposed to include
property inside the freeway interchange. He referred to the
neighborhood plan to indicate which property will be taken by the
Division of Highways. He emphasized the fact that the City ~ight
be faced with a rezoning request for property which would shortly
be bought by the State. He asked if the City could consider only
that property which would remain outside of the freeway line.
The City Engineer stated that the neighborhood plan being used
by the Chairman was dravm on the basis of a cloverleaf interchange.
This was the design planned at the time although it has since
been changed to a diamond.
Mr. Fleming said he did not know how the Commission could
act on a rezoning except for a specific piece of property with a
legal description for the same. The exact property remaining will
not be known until some time in the future. He added that the
question might be referred to Mr. Anderson (vlho left shortly after
9:00 P.~L)
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Mr. }~riani said that the State will not change its design
plans until or unless the City changes its land plans and the City
will not change its land use until it knows the exact location of
the freel'¡a,r structure. He called ita pamdox.' He emphasized that
his application is "not a gimmiclc to stick the State".
COmmissioner Leonard said he is perfectly 1'¡illing to work along
with the stated intention to act on the property left after the free-
way is built, that Mr. Mariani's statement of intent is satisfactory
to him.
Commissioner Adamo as!œd whether the service or frontage roads
are part of the freeway right-of-way.
The City Attorney answered that they are and that a fairly
detailed plan that he has seen shows a diamond type interchange with
a frontage road along Lucille Avenue, referring to a plan intended
by the City Council at the time of the Yamaoka application. He
said that if Lucille Avenue tUl~S south, it may eliminate a portion
of the frontage road. Now that the ownership has changeã, the street
plan may change with it. Mr. }mriani said that he has considered
three methods of buffering - masonry wall, adequate landscaping
screens, and step down zoning. He prefers a masonry wall or a
landscaping method.
The Chairman said that he is not so sure that apartment houses
are the answer to bUffering between commercial and residential, and
he is not so sure that a concrete wall is the answer. It is some-
thing that the City will have to work out.
Commissioner Leonard said there is an understandable preferer
for "cash register" buffering such as apartment houses.
The Chairman stated that the property before them may be
reduced to a small section after the freeway and bufferi.ng go in.
Mr. Mariani sai.d that this application is intended as part
of a regional development which will partly resolve the buffering
factor. Co~~ssioner Leonard reviewed the fact that the applicant
maintains this is a good location for C-I-H, also that Riches
Research report said that property adjoi.ning the freeway could very
well be a commercial center, especially in view of' the dj,stance
from the commercial centers of Sunnyvale and San Jose. A lot of
road influence is brought to bear on this location and adjoining
property, as well as in three or four other sections of the City.
He referred to the four-corners and two or three other locations
in the City which will abut heavy freeway concentration,ìnterchangp~,
frontage roads, etc. He turned again to the problem of settling
once and for all the commercial center of Cupertino. If the
cOmmiSSiOfl is trying to do this we should be talking about all of
the r~riani applications. The Corrmdssion, he said, has to arrive
at a long range decision as to what we want for the center of i;CTWU,
not fool around with a couple hundred feet here or there. At the
beginning of his discussion, Commissioner Leonard noted that the
applicant has chosen his words very carefully in saying that this is
~ commercial location.
Mr. Mariani said that he meant to say that this is the commer-
cial area because of the intersection of Junipero Serra Freeway,
Highway 9 and the strategic distance from other commercial shopping
centers, combined with the geographic center of population. No other
area mentioned would have the concentration of apartments necessary
to feed a large commercial center. He again listed the three
factors in the Riches Research report - access, density in popula-
tion, and geographical location.
Tonight he is requesting zoning on the one piece of property
only.
The City Manager said that he does not thinlc the Planning
Commission can zone systematically to one certain depth from the
highway. This does not seem to him to be realistic in view of the
differing property depths as regards ownership, existing land uses,
plus the differing needs that will be presented by applicants.
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Commissioner Snyder said that ;the-problem here is to determine
where the central business district is to be located so that the
Commission is not led into zoning 10 acres, here and 10 acres there.
This is something that cannot be achieved over night and Commissioner
Snyder feels there is insufficient date. available to ,the Planning
Commission at the present tim8 to formulate the answer. The Riches
report cannot be the only report that the Planning Commission will
consider.
Mr. Ma:::-iani asked what else the property could beL used for,
ex-cept for C-l.
CommiSsioner Snyder said he fails to see how d-eläýing the
application can deter construction of the clover-leaf. "
Mr. riJariani answered by ,saying' that there is just so mu.ch money
available for highway construction throughout the state of California
and that attendance a.t highway meetings wi,ll quiclrly indicate that
there is far from sufficient funds to meet the requests and de!!IB,nds
submitted to the Division of Highways. The!'efore, he said the
community w~ch docs not blow its horn is not heard. When maps
were rece¡'ltly shown to the Division of' Hi,gh'~ays, it marked the fi rst
time that the design office was aware of the potential land use in
theC~þertino vicinity.
The Chårman asked the City :Engineer if there has been a change
in the proposed street pattern shown on the neighborhood plan. 'fhe
City Engineer answered in the negative, although aclmowledging that
the existing street pattern was formulated at the time of the Yamaoka
application. No tentative map was presented with:the present applica-
tion.
In answer to a qllestion, Mr. Mariani said he did not wish to
split the subject property \lith streets.
Commissioner Leonard again referred to a formula or criteria
taking into consider'at,ion tÜI:: potential regional shopping area within
tpe City limits and the examination of each with referehce thereto.
A quiclc estimate woulrl mark one or more of the four corners as the
, center of town he said, but the Planning Commission might well study
all sites with particular reference to l~~es of traffic. Counting
the lanes of traffic within a certain distance of such potential
centers, crediting the interchanges and frontage roads with certain
factors to see if an order of magnitude can be derived might enable
the Comrrdssion to see where the center of town should be. This
migi:1t take some time, but if the Commission could estalbish
significant criteria the proper 80 acres or so might be marked as the
central commercial center. On t.he other hand, he said 300 or 400
~cres might be way out of proportion. Mr. Mariani said that the 400
acres ShOi'ffi in the Riches report becomes about 269 with" the streets
and ,other public property deducted. Of this about 80 aCl'es are
intended for retail use.
The City Engineer said that the Junipero Serra Freeway ~ill be
6 lanes initially with 2 more lanes added.in the future;
Commissioner Frolich proposed that a. professional planning
analysis Þe made for the City in order to compaiE'è it with the Riches
report. He said he would like to see the City planner enter the
discussion of this problem. He also asked whether cormnercial or
industrial should be located near the concentration of traffic.
Mr. Mqriani stated that the proposal is not sound for the owner
if it is not sound for the City. One month ago Jess Black of the
Division of Highways was not sure whether 2 months extension could be
allowed to provide for the traffic figures relative to a cloverleaf.
Commissioner Leonard said that if the Planning Commission
into a study and analysis, providing a factual report complete
figures, it might carry weight with the Division of Highways.
said the Commission must go at the problemo.bjectively.
IQoved by Commissioner Frolich that the application be referred te
a study session October 10 at 8:00 P.M. Seconded by Commissioner
Snyder.
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COmmissioners: '
NAYS:, COmmisSioners:
'ABSENT: Commissioners:
MOTION CARRIED:
'v UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
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Adamo', Fitzgerald, Prolich, Leonard,
Rampy, Snyder, Small
None
None
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A, ORDINANCE 002(h): Amending Ordinance No. 002 which ordicance
incorporate,s Ordinance NS l200 of the County Of 3,anta Clara by
repealing I. Professional Office District" classificati'On and adding
the classification "Professional Administrative Zoning" (PO-H) and
f\¡rther by addihg t.heclassification "Light Industrial Park Zoning"
(Ml-PH). Continued. "
The Chairman announced that the subcommittee has written eight
light indus'trial plants asking for comments on Ordinance 002(h),
These were mailed October 2; no answers have been received as yet.
Commissioner Leonard stated that the subcommittee should
examine the eight answers before the hearing,.
" Moved by Commissioner ,F'rolich that the ,heaving be continued
to October 23. Seconded by COmmi,ssioner,Fitzgerald.
AYES:
Commi s si one rs :
NAYS:CoIl1l'nissioners: "
ABSENT: Commissioners:
MOTION CARRIED:
Adamo, Fitzgerald, Frolich, Leonard,
, Rampy, Snyder,,' Small
None
None
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B. PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION 65. A Resolution of Intentio,_
by the Planning Commission of the City of Cupertino Initiat:i,ng Pro-
ceedings to Rezone A Certain Portion of the City from M-l-H District
to R-3-H and R-l:B-2 District.
The Chairman, said that the owners adjoining the Chuck property
in question have expressed a preference ,for M-l zoning.'
Commissioner Leonard said that discussions with reàltors
specializing in this field have developed the point that it is
difficult for realtors to work without ha~~ng an appropriate
ordinance in ,effect and some land properly zoned. That is, light
industries are not' m'-"ch inclined to enter public hearings in order
to secUre a site. They look for land which is, already zoned and the
City which has the ordina.nce structure ¿lready in shape. He said
that the o.mer did his best to get Vega Electronics on the site
and, the enterprise failed through no fault of his. The!'efore he
reasoned it would be inappropriate to hold a hasty rezOning of the
property, Chuck may wish to take part in an industrial'parlc con-
sid?ration involving 50 or more acres. The owner, reasOned
Commissioner Leonard, has not had, a reasonable length of time in
which to locate and install an industry on the site, espectially in
view of the, fact that such industry will be the first to settle in
the City of Cupertino. ,He added that he does not think that the
owner will have much luck attracting a light industry before the
arrival of the City Flanner. He maintained it would be reasonable to
wait another year or two. before taking the action indicated in
Plar:ming Commission Resolution 65, although he said it is good to
,have the res.olution prepared and on file. '
Moved by Commissioner Adamo that Planning Commission Resolution
65 þe tabled, Seconded by Commissioner Rampy.
A YES:
Commi ssioners:
NAYS: Commissioners:
ABSENT: Cotnmis,sioners:
MOTION CARRIED:
C. MISCELLANEOUS,
None
Adamo, Fitzgerald, 'Frolich, Leonard,
Rampy, Snyder, Small
None
None
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