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PC 08-15-63 10321 So. Saratoga-$unnyval~ Road C I T Y 0 Feu P E R TIN 0 GUPE~L1NV;-CK£1~URNIA---- MINUTES FOR ADJOURNED MEETING OF PLANNING COr~lISSION, AUGUST 15, 1963 252-4505 Time: Place: 8:00 P.M. Board Room, Cupertino School District 10300 Vista Drive, Cupertino I II ROLL CALL: MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETINGS: July 22, 23, & 30 Comm. Pres~nt: Comm. Absent: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Small, Snyder, Frolich Rampy Minutes of the previous meetings will be read at the next regular meeting of the Planning Commission. III COMMUNICATIONS: A. Written - None B. Verbal - None IV HEARINGS SCHEDULED: A. STUART MOLDAW; Appl. 26-u-63 for a Use Permit for 6.067 acres owned by Domenica TOrre, et al; property zoned PC-H: Use Permit sought for R-24-H; bounded on east by Blaney Ave, on west by projected Randy Lane, south of Stevens Creek Blvd. Hearing continued. Mr. Ned Abrams, Architect, made the presentation for the Moldaw application. He proposes 88 units on 6.067 acres. Comm. Snyder requested street patterns and drainage information from the City EngineerinG Dept. It was pointed out that it would tie in with the storm drain on Blaney. Comm, Fitzgerald as!ced about easements, to which Mr. Abrams re- plied there would be a Randy Lane easement. Comm. Snyder asked whether the homeowners would be responsible for maintaining streets. Mr. Abrams pointed out that the homeowners would be required to join an association whereby each would contribute funds, included in the mortgage payment, toward maintenance and re- pairs, There would be a lien against the property for the collection of the maintenance funds. To Comm. Fitzgerald's question regarding improvement of Randy Lane, Mr. Abrams stated their portion will be dedicated. Chairman Frolich requested details on the type of roofs intended. Mr. Abrams stated the plans called for medium shake, which run approx. $27 or $28 per square foot, as opposed to roughly $20 per square foot for composition, $40 per square foot for heavy shake, or $80 per square foot for tile. Comm. Adamo wondered about the feasibility of going to steel and concrete construction. Mr. Abrams stated it would be considerably more expensive, but would not necessarily guarantee a more civic- minded type of people. Comm. Adamo asked about the life expectancy of the proposed con- struction. Mr. Abrams stated the Internal Revenue Dept says 50 years; mortgagors say 20 years, and Mr. Abrams would estimate the 50 year figure to be more realistic. Chairman Frolich asked how they planned to take on the building of this property, to which Mr. Abrams replied they planned to first build the unit nearest the recreation area, then the recreation area, then the balance of the units. -1- To Chairman Prolich's questions about the ~elationship between parking areas, dr1ve~lays and existing grading, Mr. Abrams pointed out the carports would be 1/2 car depressed. He added that it would create no problem to add garage doors to these carports, if the Commission so desired. He also stated that the internal street will be 27' wide. Comm. Leonard questioned the impact of such a development on the community. He wondered if the developers had done anything about the financing to prevent the attraction to transients. Mr. Abrams stated the developers are now talking in the low $20,000 bracket. Also, ownership of the land as well as the structure would have some effect upon the type of people to which this would appeal. The deed insures that proper maintenance will be accomplished throughout the years~ Comm. Leonard, realizing the initial equity will grow, wondered what the initial equity would be. Mr. Abrams stated it would be close to $3000 down since the maximum loans would be $17,200. Mr. Barnett Kernoff, 1930 Edgewood Drive, Palo Alto, and Mr. Myron Stern, 24905 La Lema Court, Los Altos, were the other prin- cipals for this development who were present at the meeting. Mr. stern stated that it was their desire to keep the same kind of quality they put into Brookside Glen. They hope to build the same quality, but at a lower cost per square foot because they:~elieve they have learned by some of their mistakes. Mr. Abrams added that they have put in fewer units to give the feeling of openness and quality; and this quality will manifest itself throughout the units. The exteriors will be of brick, sidin g, and stucco with a 2 foot overhang on the roofs. Mr. Doug Bayless will be the landscape architect. He also pointed out there will be sidewalk access to every unit for the benefit of the post office, as well as the owners. cooun.Fitzgera1d. stated that ewn tho he· had a business· lnt~rést in thè initialstagès·óf the Town Center, he will vote on it. Comm. Small absolved because his company is involved in this development. Comm. Leonard made the following motion: I. Whereas the area proposed for this multiple was originally de- signated for this use in the hearings on the TOWN CENTER planned community of 100+ acres at which time the following was reviewed: 1. Traffic-handling capacity of the neighborhood; 2. Harmony between uses adjoining; 3. Landscaping and open spaces; 4. Availability of utilities; and II Whereas the facts developed at these present hearings; and the plans and sketches shown are consistent with the original planned community presentations, and; III Whereas the applicants show a better parking ratio, ànd a better than average handling of guest and owner parking; and IV Whereas applicants, under heavy questioning on general price levels of units and likely qualifying incomes for purchase, have indicated: 1. Sales prices in excess of $20,000 a unit; 2. Initial equities exceeding $2fOOO a unit; and 3. Minimum incomes in excess of $750.00 per month All of which are cited as reasonable reasons for expecting a development with a strong community and participation, and with fairly stable occupancy akin to say that of a $20-$21,000 R-l tract; and V Whereas the land now has zoning end requires only a use permit. Now therefore be it resolved: That this Commission recommend grant- ing the use permit subject to conditions: 1 - 12. Schedule B -- the usual City list; 13. Conformity of roof materials to the master plan of the Town Center committee which exists to provide neighborhood harmony and -2- a generally pleasing roof theme carried out throughout the entire Town Center; . 14. Filing of a subdivision map on the project before issuance of building permits. 15. Approval of deed restrictions by the City Attorney, City Manager, and City Council with particular reference to maintenance of common areas and project streets. Comm. Snyder seconded the motion. AYES: NAYS: ABSTAINED: ABSENT: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Snyder, Frolich None Small Rampy 5 for, 0 against B. RICHARD H. STONE: Appl. 34-V-63 for a variance to allow a front yard of 16' where ordinance requires 20'; 19717 Lar~r. Mr. Stone was absent, but he had submitted a letter on August 11, together with signatures of neighbors who had no objections to his proposed addition to his home. Chairman Frolich pointed out there have been no written or verbal protests to this application. Comm. Snyder stated these homes were already granted a variance of a IS' setback; therefore, he already has the maximum building coverage for this size lot. Comm. Adamo suggested Mr. Stone could build a second story without involving variances. Comm. Leonard stated that the Idylwild tract was within the ordinance on most of the homes. He has been through this area, how- ever, with insurance adj~stors who generally felt it is a nice look- ing subdivision but the houses are too close to the street. Comm. Snyder moved to deny the variance requested under applica- tion 34-v-63. Comm. Fitzgerald seconded the motion. AYES: NAYS: ABSENT: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Small, Snyder, Frolich None Rampy 6 for, 0 against C. VICTOR MANDELLA: Appl. 36-v-63 for a variance to the Sign Ordinance to allow a sign 28' high where ordinance permits 20'; south side of Stevens Creek Blvd. across from Randy Ln. Mr.Rocky, Stone, of Amcoe Sign Company, 404 Town & Country Vil- lage, Palo Alto, presented a drawing of thè sign in question. He pointed out the cactus spears would not be illuminated, but that they would extend 13 feet above the 20 foot illuminated sign. Comm. Small commented on the good taste and originality of the sign, but felt that it would set a precedent if the Commission allowed this variance. Mr. Stone stated he was concentrating on the aesthetics in de- signing this sign and felt the need for some elasticity in the controls. Comm. Leonard pointed out that if this variance were granted there would be constant pressure for higher or bigger signs. In the case of the Adobe Inn, the building itself sells itself. If it were being remodelled or changed into something else the feeling of the Commission ,might be somewhat different. After discussing the pros and cons of putting the sign on the roof, it was decided that Mr. Stone would make some modifications to cut down the overall size of the sign. -3- Comm. Small moved. and Comm. Fitzgerald seconded the motion to continue this Hearing at the next regular Planning Commission meeting. V UNFINISHED BUSINESS: A. Miscellaneous -- None B. COOK & WILSON: Tentative Subdivision Map of Units 3, 4, and 5 La Cresta. Mr. A. T. Cook, 195 Atherton Avenue, Atherton, submitted the tentative maps for the west side of Foothill Blvd. to the Commission for approval. Comm. Small commended Mr. Cook on his development on the east side of Foothill Blvd. He stated it was a credit to the City. Mr. Cook stated his company's plans for the west side are es- sentially the same as those for the east side. He wanted approval because the original application had expired. The Engineering Dept. indicated that it basically conforms to specifications. Comm. Leonard moved to approve the plan. Comm. Fitzgerald seconded the motion. AYES: NAYS: ABSENT: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Small, Snyder, Frolich None Rampy 6 for, 0 against VI NEW BUSINESS A. Miscellaneous Comm. Snyder brought up the possibility of reorganizing the H- Control committee. He would like to see a general architect and a landscape architect added to the Committee. He felt the committee would inherently command more respect with their professional back- ground, as well as relieve the Commissioners of some of their duties. Comm. Small stated that about a year ago he made a public appeal in the"Sunnyvale Standard" and "Cupertino Courier", and also asked City Council for any volunteers bu~ as yet has received none. Comm. Leonard suggested a different approach. He wondered if perhaps a seminar could be arranged whereby several architects could lecture and discuss architectural principles with the Commission, talcing care not to narrow the discussion down to specific opinions. This would infringe on their ethics. Chairman Frolich stated he had attended a Tri-County Planning meeting in San Francisco about a year ago where he heard of architects in Marin County being on committees similar to our H-Contro1. Comm. Leonard felt that if the approach were strictly on a principle basis there would be more success in getting volunteers. VII ADJOURNMENT Comm. Small moved the meeting be adjourned. Comm. Leonard seconded. AYES: NAYS: ABSENT: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Small, Snyder, Frolich None Rampy 6 for, 0 against Meeting adjourned at 10:30 P.M. AftBB'1'. APPROVED: 1.1 Ro~~ .8.. Abðok Seoretar7. Plann1ng Commi..ion -4- 1./ ~~.'rl ~'1ftþ ;.. . eha1JIman