PC 04-22-63
10321 SO. SARATOGA-SUNNYVArE ROAD (City Hall)
C I T Y 0 F CUP E R TIN 0
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MINU'l'ES FOR THE REGUL1\TI jl'jEE'fING OF THE PLA,NNING COMMISSION, April 22,
1963
Place:
Time:
Board Room, Cupertino Elementary School District
8:00 P.M.
I SALUTE TO THE FLAG
II ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present:
Adamo, Fitzgerald, Frolich, Leonard,
Small, Snyder
Rampy
City Attorney, Office Engineer, City
ClerIc
Commissioners Absent:
Staff Present:
MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS ~ETINGS: April 8, 9, 1963
April 8:
Page 2, IV. A., Mr. Gene Mast:in, repl'enented the applicant.
Eighth paragraph, page 2, the first sentence should read:
In considering a prior application, where the Commission had
pointed out that this property is zoned R-l, the Commissioners con-
sidered the possibility that any rezoning to R-2--H might cause a
previous applicant on adjacen~ property to comeback for rezoning.
April 9:
Page 1, 6th paragraph, first sentence should read:
Commissioner Frolich pointed out that the higher density
multiple area shown is alr.'eaüy in fairly recen.t homes while low
density is shown in an area now solidly committed to R-3 and R-24.
Add to that same paragraph, the 6th:
It was pointed out th~t the Sketch Plan seems to indicate
preservation of Rancho Rinconac'.a but renewJ.l of more expensive areas.
Page 2, paragraph 6, should read:
It was requested that the Planner show the appearance of a zoning
map for a small area in order to demonstrate the difference between
sketch plan and a zoning map in order to avoid citizens thinking them
both the same.
It was moved by Commissioner Small and seconded by Commissioner
Fitzgerald that the minutes of April 8 and 9 be approved as corrected.
Motion carried 6-0.
NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN OF PLANNING COMMISSION
Commissioner Adamo nominated Commissioner Frolich Chairman for
the coming year. Seconded by Commissioner Fitzgerald.
It was moved by Commissioner Leonard ç.nd seconded by Commissioner
Small that the nominations be closed. All in favor.
Commissioner Frolich was unanj.mously elected.
It was moved by Commissioner Leonard that a
the Commission's thank", and appreciation for the
outgoing Chairman for the past year, be dmfted.
issioner Small. All in fa UéJr.
resolution, expressing
seI'vices of the
Seconded by Comm-
It was moved by Comm1 ,"s1 onel' SIT'''' 11 and seconded by Commissioner
Adamo that Commissioner Fitzgerald be f1ê'!";,,'!t'"<1 for Vice Chairman.
It was moved by Commissioner Li>.:Jnarè 'J.~è'. "econrJf"d by Commissioner
Fitzgerald that nominations be closed. All in favor.
Commissioner Fitzgerald was unanimously elected.
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III COP1MUNICATIONS
A. Written
1. Application from County Planning Commission, Joseph
M. Evulich, 10851 Rae Lane, Cupertino, requesting change
of zone to "A" (green belt) west side of Rae Lane, south
of McClellan Road.
The Commisston discussed the road, w<mdering if it should also
be greenbelted. The road is not dedicated, and it was the City
Attorney's feeling that the road could not be greenbelted. It was
decided that Rae Lane would not be blocked by this action.
Expressing the feel:l.ng that to use the greenbelting device
on a one-,acre, non-a¡¡;ric1l1tu!'aJ., country residence would be·a misuse
of greenbelting,. Commissioner )~eonard moved for disapproval. Seconded
byCommission~r;Fitzgerald.
AYES:
Commissioners: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Small,
Snyder, Frolich
Commissioners: ~one
Commissioners: Rampy
NAYS:
ABSENT:
Motion carried 6-0. The County will be 80 advised by letter.
2. Tract No. Request, from County Planning Commission.
Tract #3492, Camino Del Homes
3. Tri-County Planning Council Ballot.
4. Bay Area Conference on Regional Planning, May 17 at the
Four Seas Restaurant in San Francisco.
5. County Application, Loughlin & City Title, requesting
change in zone to C2 and R-12, west side of Foothill Blvd
& Stevens Creek and Poppy Drive. Present zoning is
C-l-H and R-I-B2.
The City Attorney pointed out that there are no cnrbs, gutters, or
sidewalks in, and that present developm'Ont:.; would not meet the City's
requirements.
R-12 density "as questioned. The CIty Attorney learned from the
ordinance that there would be about !' 'O unit;:'; per aCl'e. There would
be 4 or 5 acres of C2 and 12-3/4 acres of H-12.
Commissioner Small stated that City Title is not an applicant.
They have land in a holding agreement, and are owners of record.
It was moved by Commissioner Leonard and seconded by Commissioner
Fitzgerald that the County be informed that the Commission feels the
density is heavier than desired for this area, also the commercial is
heavier, however, if improvements meeting City standards be made, the
City would have no objection to the rezoning.
NAYS:
ABSENT:
Commissioners: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Small,
Snyder, Frolich
Commissioners: None
Commissioners: Rampy
AYES:
Motion carried 6-0
It was moved by Commissioner Small and seconded by Commissioner
Adamo that it be pointed out that this is Cupertino's westerly
entrance, and the Commission is vitally concerned with the development
in the area, and would like to be informed of any development. there.
All in favor.
B. Verbal
No verbal communications..
It was moved by Commissioner Small and seconded by Commissioner
Fitzgerald that the communications be received and filed. Motion
carried 6-0.
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IV HEARINGS SCHEDULED
A. C. L. Riedel~ Application 79-2-63 to rezone Snores,
approximately, from R-1:B-·2 to H-3-H; property extending
from Portal to Blaney, about 5í"')' nort.h of' Stevens Creek
Boulevard. Firs'c Hearing.
A letter from Mr. Warner Wilson, requested the item be dropped
from the Agenda. There may be a new zoning request to R-24.
It was moved by Commissioner Fitzgerald and seconded by Commiss-
ioner Small that Application 79-Z-63 be removed from the Agenda.
All in favor.
B.
Ad-Art, Inc.:
89 to allow a
Dorado, 19330
1\pplicatton 30-v-63 for a Variance to Ordinance
Sign 28' high where Ordinance allows 20'; El
B Stevens Creek Boulevard.
Mr. W. Richardson, 7055 Stockton Avenue, San Jose, represented
the applicant. Opening an additional shop to the rear of the building,
and advertising the bottle shop and dining room, in order to keep the
lines of the sign in proportion, the applicant requested the variance
of 2' for the sign, 6' for the spire, a total of 8' over the ordlnance.
Commissioner Small stated that granting one sign variance brings
in many more, expecting that they too can exceed the limits of the
ordinance.
Commissioner Fit~gerald aßkcd about lowering the sign, and the
applicant exo1a:).ned that the extra height was needed for the purpose
of design. He too felt theee would be more r'equests if granted.
Commissioner Adamo point8d out Boulevard Center, across the high-
way, which has attractive signs and is within the ordinance.
Commissioner Leonard saw very little hardship involved in stioking
with the ordinance.
Commissioner Snyder asked why 22~ and not 20' was required.
Again, for purpose of design.
C;:¡airman Fro1j.ch stilted tløt he has hoen opposed to sign
variances in the past, but felt sinc8 the spire is not illuminated,
and is for the purpose of enha.ncing the sign itself, he did not teel
it was stretching the o:r.dinance too far.
It was moved by Commissioner Snyder an0 seconded by Commissioner
Fitzgerald that the hearing be closed. All in favor.
It was moved by Commissioner Adamo, and seconded by Commissioner
Leonard that since the center across the street is within the ordi-
nance, the request be denied.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
Commissioners: Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Small,
Snyder
Commissioners: Frolich
Commissioners: Rampy
Motion carried 5-1
It was
Snyder that
after VIA.
moved by Commis~ioner Small, an~ secon0o~ by Commissioner
the next item, V. DNFÜ!I3HE') :;US:::NESS, be delayed until
All in favor.
VI NEW BUSINESS
A. Mason Enterprises, Ine.: Applj cÐtioa 24-.TM-63 for approval
of tentative map; 46 lot;s, R'l, adjojning. west side of
Monta Vista School, north side of Vosu Ave.
Mr. Larry Schott, from r/jackay & Somps, 1003 viest El Camino Real,
Sunnyvale, represented the applicGnt.
The Engj.neer pointed out that valley gutters are shown on the
cross streets. The Engineering Department feels some other solutton
should be worked out since this is not standard in the City.
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Mr. Schott explaj.ned that they proposed the va.l1ey gutters because
the property above has a ditch running through, carrying water out
to Stevens Creek Road. It drains down and is cut off by another
storm sewer. This is completely isolated. Lockwood goes out to
Permanente Road. Valley gutters would be mor'e economical. There
would be only minor traffic through there.
The City Attorney stated that the City has taken a flat position
of allowing no valley gutters. Debris collects in the dip, can't
get across the intersection and stays in the middle of the street.
Regarding storm drain trunks, the Engineer stated that drainage
is out Lockwood or down along the school. There is none to the
north. It might mean running a line to Permanente Road, where there
is a line.
The City Clerk read the following letters:
1. School District - no problems foreseen
2. Sanitary District, no problems
3. Health Department - Water supply shall be furnished by
Cupertino City Water. Approval contingent on posting adequate
bond. Utilities as claimed to be installed. Use of individual
sewage disposal not approved.
Commissioner Snyder asked about lots 36 and 37, which are-quite
deep. Mr. Schott said that even if the cul de sac were moved, there
would still be two deep lots. One of the conditions of rezoning was
that Lockwood go through. Mr. Schott wasn't sure but felt the homes
would start around $18,000 or $20,000.
It was moved by Commissioner Small that the hearing be closed.
Seconded by Commissioner Fitzgerald. All in favor.
It was moved by Commissioner Small that Application 24-TM-63
for approval of a tentative map, be recommended for approval, subject
to the City standards as suggested by the Engineer. Seconded by
Commissioner Fitzgerald.
AYES:
NAYS:
ABSENT:
Commissioners:
Adamo, Fitzgerald, Leonard, Small,
Srlyder, P1'ol:1.ch
None
Rampy
Commissioners:
Commissioners:
Motion carried 6-0
B. Miscellaneous
RECESS:
RECONVENE:
9:05
9:15
V UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Ger.eral Plan Program: Sketch Plans
Mr. Volker, Planner, presented Sketch Plan #3. Mr. Volker
explained that the plans have been prepared based on acreage.distrib;.¡-'
tion contained in an economic analysis and distrj.buted acreage den-
sity for various uses. Rather than low, medium and high density,
compared with other areas, it would be founù that very low, low and
medium densities are used. It appears that there is more high density
proposed than is actually the case.
Mr. Volker then gave density figures for four neighborhoods:
Neighborhood 6, beginning at the Ih~y 9 and Stevens Creek intersection,
west to the freeway, north to the fr'eeway and back down .114 acres
are developed for residential purposes at a Œ8nsity of 5.0 fami~s
per acre. 247 acres vacant in the propdsed plan. It is proposed that
200 be taken for high density. 'l'hj.s would be the most intense area,
in the .heart of the City. 47 acres for rr.edh1'11 density, 3.9 dwelling
units per acre, 9.8 net density per acre. There would be a total
population of 3,500 for the neigl1bol'hood, '~he most intensified develop-
ment.
Neighborhood 8, area immediately east of #6, to Wolfe Road and
Stevens Creek. 69 acr'es developed at 4.9 families per acre. 353
,,¡cres vacant, 192 for high dp.nsity at 14 dwelliiog units per g:.'osß
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acre.
acre.
161 acres to be developed at a rate of' 3.9 families per gross
Net density would be 8.6, a total of 3,650 people.
Neighborhood 12; A quadrant bound by the freeway running to the
intersection of Highwé1.Y 9 and the freeway. 2118 acres developed at 4.4
with 95 acres-vacant, 82 to be developed at high density, 17 for medium
density. Net density would be 6.7 famj.lles.
Neighborhood 13: Bound by High\~ay #9, Bollinger and Wolfe Road
Extension. 200 acres developed at 5.6 uniLs per acre, 273 acres
vacant. 96 high density, 177 medium density. This would have a
net density of 6.6 dewl1inß units per acre, with a population of 3,150.
There will be 950 acres of high density required.
The commercial distribution has been deferred until completion
of the residential.
C~airmanFrolich asked for the factors determining the high
density required.
Mr. Volker answered that C4pertino is not like Saratoga which
will have less high density, nor like Mountain View with more. Present
trends in the entire Bay Area are toward higher density, plus the fact
that as land disappears, its asking price rises to the point that it
is not economical to develop low density. Industrial developments
will require relatively close residential properties for their working
force. The bulk of the bu:Llding activ:Lty is in high density.
Mr. Volker referred to an article in Fortune Magazine, April
issue, supporting the trend to multiple. One factor contributing to
the trend is the increased number of households headed by men or women
over 55. Government employees, or young executives who don't want to
establish deep roots is another.
Commissioner Leonard, referring to the triangular area, including
Idlewild, Idlewild Greens, Baywood and others, asked what normally
happens to a good new subdivision 5 or 10 years old, and also how long
a subdivision is considered prime.
Mr. Volker explained that what is )1eing presented is for the time
the community is fully developed in 1980 - 19[.5, He1atively new
single family housing has a life expectancy of 40 or 50 years. In
19'70 or 1980 there will be two freeways e;oing thl'ough the area, and
probably 8,000,000 people in the" Bay Area.· l'r('ssu':,es will be great
for lower sized lots. Should some of the howÜng be replaceable, the
land will be so much more valuable, that development for anything but
higher density would probably not be undertaken. There is a trend
toward mixing land development types, with proper control under PC-H
zoning.
Commissioner Fitzgerald asked if the jndustrial would be cha.nged
due to the Stoneson Development, cut from 720 to 500 acres industrial.
Secondly, location of industri,9.1 in Monta Vista cou1.d be considered.
Mr. Vollcer said that the Stoneson property was the only acreage large
enough for the expanded industrial. Property near the PG&E substation
in Monta Vista \'ìill not be easily accessible fl'om the free-,¡ays.
Chairman Frolich wondered if it is likely the County\~ill get the
State to come up with an Expressway at Foothill & Stevens Creek.
Commissi.oner Fitzgerald stated that it was thought that two freeways
meeting was too close.
Commissioner Leonard eXDressed the belief that most of the
residents of Cupertino, who live in subdivisions, will be concerned
over maps showing t.hey are liqu:1dated in 20 or 30 years. }¡othlne; in
the plan prohibits rebuild.-Lng or renov2.tÜ.g. Should the majority go
to higher density, their m::lghbors would probe.bly follow.
Mr. Volker sta.ted that r'cplacement of existing low density de-'
velopment hasn I t been considered., Some of' the vacant lands will go
to high density.
The Chairman asked for co~nents from the audience. There were
none.
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Mr. Volker pointed out that the purpose of the meeting is
strictly sketch. They usually aren't as precise, using tissue
drawings, rather than detal led plans. 'l'he pre liminary plan wi 11 be
published and there will be public discussions .of two .or three months.
The final plan will call for public hearings. -
Commissioner Leonard asked if it is the position of the Planner
and the Planning Commission to state at the public hearings that the
plan isa recognition that there are forces at work in the area that
make th1s plan the most workable, central location and existing road
pattern that destines the area for what happens in a central location.
Commissioner Fitzgerald stated that he didn't feel the Commission
had any real objections to the plan, that they realize that probably
this is the solution, but they feel it will be hard selling it to the
public. He pointed out two schools not shown, one on Blaney, and one
on Highway 9, north of Gemco's entrance.
Mr. Volker pointed out that the Commission has adopted as one of
its objectives defining Cupertino. Concentration of higher density
in the triangle bound by two freeways and the creek would lend itself
toward this. Volumes of traffic will not be conducive to single-family
residential. 180,000 population is forecast for the entire Cupertino
planning area by 1985.
Regarding a question on distribution of industrial activity,
Mr. Volker replied that there are 35 acres forecast, distributed
throughout the industrial properties.
Juanita MacLaren, Realtor, told the Commission she has been
trying to sell some property on North Blaney for two years, and now
there is an offer. However if the Riedel property goes to R-3, they
wonder if they should request R-3 also.
Commissioner Small enumerated recent requests for ap~rtment
zoning, which add up to around 900. Since Blaney is 60' instead
of 90', as campaigned for by a Commissioner some time ago, there
will be problems of access, ingress and egress. At this time, this
would not make good multiple zoning. 'fl,ere are new subdivisions in
there and will be there for 30 years or more. Higher density closer
to Highway 9 seems more practical.
Chairman Frolich added that it would be some time before the
Commission could ~bandon isolation of heavy density by Cupertino
standards. Uæot'tþe plan as leverage will be a problem.
B. Miscellaneous
Since there would not be a qUOTIlm present at 8:00, it was
decided to hold H-Control Meeting at 7:00 '£Uesday, April
23, at the Conference Room at City Hall.
VII ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Commissioner Fitzgerald, and seconded by
Commisstoner Adamo that the meeting be adjourned to Saturday, April
27, at 9:30 a.m. at the Conference Room at City Hall. All in favor.
Adjournment: 10:30
Isl Donald Fro1ich, ChairnJan
ATTEST:
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Lawrence K. Martin, City Clerk
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