PC 05-11-64
10321 So. Hwy 9, Cupertino, Calif., 95014 252-4505
C I T Y 0 F C U P E R T I N 0
CUPERTINO, CALIFORr:IA
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, 5/11/C4
PLACE: Auditorium, Cupertino High School
TIME: 8:00 P.M.
I SALUTE TO THE FLAG
II ROLL CALL: MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS: 4/27 & 28/64
Commissioners present: Gatea, Johnson, Rampy, Snyder, Thomson,
Frolich
Commissioner absent: Adamo
Staff present: City Attorney, Assistant City Engineer, City
Planner, Recreation Director & Assistant
Corrections to the Minutes of April 27th:
Page 2, lines 3 and 4 should read: °matter of compensation is
between the Consultant and the City Council."
Page 6, para. 6, last line should read: "put in. Chairman
Frolich felt that it would when the area is developed."
It was moved by Comm, Snyder and seconded by Comm. Gates to
approve as carreoted the Minute5 of Ap-ri1 27 & 28.
Motion carried, 6-0
Chairman Frolich introduced the two new Planning Commissionera
to the audience.
III COMMUNICATIONS:
A. Written:
' 1. Communication from County Planning Department concern-
ing a change 1n zoning and a tentati~~ map proposal
for property south of the freeway, v:est of Stelling
Road, and west of the Garden Gate subdivision to R-12.
In view of the large number of people in the audience
to participate in the Hearings, Comm. Snyder suggested
this matter be discuesed under New Business.
2. Letter from Mason Enterprises, Inc., requesting post-
ponement of their Second Hearing for further traffic
study.
It was moved by Cotrmi. Snyder and seconded by Comm.
Johnson to table appl. 112-Z-63, upon request of the
applicant.
Motion carried, 6-0
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3, Letter from ALMADEN-WINDSOR DEVELOPMENT CO.: request-
ing postponement of their Second Hearing, pending
further traffic study.
It was moved by Comrn, Snyder and seconded by Comm,
Johnson to table application 12-z-64, upon request
of the applicant.
Motion carried, 6-0
It was moved by Comm. Snyder and seconded by Comm. Rampy
that the wr3tten communications be received and filed and
that the County Planning Commission communication shall
be discussed under New blz~iness.
Motion carriedy 6-0
B. Verbal None.
IV HEARINGS SCHEDULED'
A, MASON ENTERPRISES, INC.:- App3.'112-Z-63 to rezone 50 acres
from M-1:B-4-H to R-2-H, R-3-H and R-24-H; east side of
the Southern Pacific Railroad right-of-way, north of
University Avenue. Second Hearing continued.
Hearing was tabled, per request of applicant.
B. CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION g13: 6-z-64 to rezone 14.68 acres
from R-1, R-l:B-2 and R-1-A:B-2 to R-E:B-4(Park); north
side of S£evens Creek Blvd., 820' west of Stelling Road.
Second Hearing.
Chairman Frolich gave a resume of the Park Site Program
for the benefit of the two new Commissioners and the
audience. The Recreation Director then oriented them as
to the park site locations on a city map.
Comm. Thomson wondered if it would be wise to continue this
Hearing until the next regular meeting sinee this was the
first exposure the new Commissioners had to the park site
program. Mayor Finch, who was in the audience, felt it
would be of value if the Planning Commission could pass on
these Resolutions as soon as possible since some of the
' Council members do not care to act on them without the
Planning Commission!s recommendations.
Comm. Snyder suggested they discuss the park sites, one at
~ a time, and discuss them. Comm. Thomson then asked if the
Recreation Director would review the three original central
park locations. Comm. Gates wanted to know what the speci-
fications. for~a'elty;park,would be. The Recreation Direc-
tor said that'it sho~:ld be located`Sn a populated area,
near as possible to the center of'the city. The State
" suggests parks be located ad,jacent to school sites to take
advantage of the school grounds and maximize the tax dollar.
The park sites would have.-those facilities not found on the
school grounds, such as tot lots. There would be no dupli-
cation.of facilities but would fill in the gaps left open
by the school sites.
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He then explained the three ori~inal choices for the City
Park: ,
1. Lands ad~oini;ig Cdlliris'S~hoolo 'This land was rezoned
, and,Will.becpme a'regional shoppl~ig center.
2. _Horse Ranch.. ThiS„would`Yi~ve been a supplementary park
for the County's SteyeY~s`Greek Park,
~ 3, ~Lands acroas from DeAn22 College:"The developer for
` this property is now asking for reaoning and has it
slated for 5 acres for a"culbural center and g acres
for town housea..
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Comm. Gatea wantefl to`know wha't the status of the rezoning
far the;third choice is as of now. ~I~"was explained that
; ,.it is b.eing.held.up~ pending a~`solution to the atorm drains,
sewers,'eto. , .
At this point, the C1ty Attorney clarified the point that
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_ the question before the Plannirig Commiusion is whether these
, are good sites for park~ and theg h$Ve- ncthing to do with
Eminent Domain progeedings. Comm. Gat2s asked whether they
were to revlew tYiese sites irrespective of the financial
sltuation. The City Attorney said`tri~~ must only decide
whether these are gobd parY. sitea'and to inake their recom-
mendations to the C1ty Counci7..
The Recreation Directox told of tYie reeearch done in choos-
ing these park sitea'and explained thr:y are where 95~ of the
people in Cupertino live.
Comm. Gates wanted to know whether`any consideration was
given to the lands ad,~acent to Lincoln Sclicol, Kennedy
School, and Denton School. The Recreation Director said
the Lincoln and Kennedy sites are not withln the city
limits but that he would check on the Denton property.
He said there is a definite popuaatiom movement toward the
west and the south and that this park program was a 12 to
15 year program. The City Attorn2y stated that later on
other Reaolutions of this kind will come before the Plann-
. ing Commiasion. Only those sites on the agenda should be
evaluated at this meeting.
Comm. Gates wanted to know what the developer was planning
for.thls property. The Recreation Direetor said that the
,developer wanted to put a cultural oenter on the front 5
, acres and towri houaes 'an the remaining 9 acres. He ex-
plained that the Boy Scouts, ~F-H, e~c., would not be able
to afford use of the1Y~ facilities because they would be too
expensive. It would be an adult, spectator-type of enter-
ta,inment. He fe.lt,the city,park would be complementary to
the college.; one'whete peop~.e~wiiixld par~~cipate. He
added that the Iibrar3rinay also"be on this site. Mrs. Joyce
_ We11, 22432 Ba~ustr,ol Court, Cupertino, said this sounded
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good to~her. ' ~
Comm. Thomson wanted to share his v3ews of the city park
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1, He has heard from several sources that if the park
were situated across from the college the studente
_ would go over to.it and disrupt the mothers with small
children and be generally destructive and disorderly.
_ In h1s experience of living ~ust 60' from Burgess
Park at Stanford Village, for 2z years the college stu-
dents did not, to his knowledge, misuse the park, It
_ is his opinion that the students at DeAnza who, for
the most part will be living at home, will not start
acting up simply because they are now college students.
2. As to the accessibility, it 'should be accessible so
that all the people in the city can get to it. It
will have pragmatic as well as aesthetic value. He
said this is a besutiful spot with the oak trees, etc.,
and will reflect the old town square idea, whieh is an
American tradition.
3. The third argument against having the city park at this
location is that it will keep tax dollars off the rolls
because of the commercial plans for this property.
Actually, only 491 feet front on Stevens Creek Road
and only 5~cres would be commercial. And we have
been adv~5e~ ggainst strip zoning. Also, we have much
unused co~m~TCially zoned land on the books now,
It was moved by Cohun. Thomson and seconded by Comm. Gates
to close the Second Hearing.
AYES: Comm. Gates, Johnson, Rampy, Snyder, Thomson, Frolich
NOES: .None
ABSENT: Comm. Adamo
Motion carried, 6-b
Chairman Frollch felt there were two problems with this
particular site, due to the proximity with the college
site. He, too, has lived close to a college and has
found that the "brown baggers° are a nuisance on the front
lawns of .the nearby residences, The other very real
problem is one of parking. He asked the Recreation DireC-
tor what the plans for parking will be at the park. He
was lnformed that no plans have been worked out as yet
but that some off-street parking will be included. He
felt that it should be kept to a minimum, however, and to
retain most of the acreage for park facilities, The
Chair.man then added that college students are pretty
inventive when there are not enough parking spaces on the
_ campus, _
It, was moved by Comm.. Thomaon'and seconded by Comm. Gates
, , to.recommend ad"qption of Resolution 913.
AYES: Comm. Gates, Johnson, Rampy, Snyder, Thomson, Frolich
NOES: None
: ABSENT.;, C9~?, Adamo
Motion carried; ~-0
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C, CITY COUNCIL R~S(~LUTION •g14`: 7~2-64 to re;zq}~e; 5 acres from
R-1 to R-E:B- Park ; north side of Vass Avenue, east side
o~' proposed Loakwood Drive alignment, Second Hearing.
SMonta Vista Schooi) _ ~
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The FteCi'eatio#1'Dire'ctor' atate~' there ie a growth pattern
toward the we8t~'and the south; rience, this 3pcation was
chosen. . .
. Comm. ~homson noted this loc8t~lon is so near some developed
land where the people haVe' not aeen f1t to;-a~inex to
- , Cupertino. The Recreation Director eaid they are trying
tp get. the. park land now and that it Wil] , be. deve loped
when ~t~tie need arises inaybe 5 to. 7 years in the future.
Qomrri. TYiom,son felt tfie area west z~f ~ubb Road.is potentially
a larger area to become develop'ed`.
It was announced that San Jose'has purehased a 10-acre
parcel a8~acent to Jollyman Sehool, giving this area about
17 acres of park land:
Comm. Johnson asked if the property behiz:3 Terrace Drive,
near Bubb Road had'been considered, The Re.creation Direc-
tor said that thj.s area is so mixed up with County, San
Jose, and,Cupertino bbundariea that we could run into
trouble. '
The Monta Vista School area in general was then discussed.
,:~.r:. The C~.ty A~torney said that County property ad~acent to
a city ultimately goes irito the'cityo He cited the instance
where Valle~o was increased`by 2/3 within one year. He
went on to say the Legislature will solve th:is problem.
Comm. Snyder felt that this p3rk site is too far removed
from the immediate population.
Comm, Gates noted there is a lot of undeveloped land in this
area and it will probably be a desirable s}~ot for a future
park.
Comm, Rampy felt this was reasonably close to the Stevens
Creek Park area. However, the facilities provided here
would be differeiit.' There is alway~s t~he possibility, though,
that nq more prope'rty wiSl be rieeded than;,is provided on
the sehool grourid it'self:
The Recreation Director noteci that 4 of the 5 park sites
have been before the Planning Gommission and the City
Council for development alrea@y. " He sald:.there is urgency
for parke on the east side and'he-wanderS~fhow long there
w1;11 b.e propert,y ayailable on the west side,
The Chairman asked for commente from the audience. Mr, Alex
Patrick, 22389 Balustrol Court, asked if there was not going
to be land dona ted to the City for parks south of Deep
Cliffe? The Re cre~tion Director said the park program can-
not be based on assumptions.
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Mr. Tom Hunter, 22447 Balustrol Court; askeci if the Plan-
ning Commis5lon turns down this Resolution whether the City
. Council has the ultimate decision on these.things. Answer
was in the affirmative.
Mr. Hunter then asked if this is the minimum acreage needed.
The Recreation Director said the 5 acres minimum ad,jacent
to school grounds is recommended by the State. The long
range plans for Cupertino call for 56.9 acres of park lands
- ad,~acent to schools, but that dollar-wise, this is not
politically sound thinking at this time. Instead, the park
program is in the 12 to 15 ~ear, medium range. Land ac-
quisition is needed now development of these lands will
. take place as needed and as'it becoines economically feasible.
The Recreation Director'Said triat he hoped to form neighbor-
hood committees to decide what facilities are needed at
each lobation: He explained the several possibilities. He
aiso stated that policing is minimized when there is a
neighborhood committee involved.
Comm. GateS asked the Recre~tlon Director. to ou'cline the
typea of developments that 3re now in the park site areas.
Mayor Finch offered the information that the County is very
interested in the McClellan Road area~for park sites.
, Comm. Gates asked the number of living units involved in
the area of this park site as opposed to trie number of
living units in, say, the Wilson and Portal areas. He also
wanted to know the reasonable pro~ected growth for this
area. Although no specific data was available at this
meeting, he was told the Wilson and Portal areas will be
very densely populated.
It was moved by Comm. Thomson and seconded by Comm. Rampy
to olose the Second Hearing.
AYES: Comm. Gates, Johnson, Rampy, Snyder, Thomson, Frolich
NOES: None
A8SEi3T: Comm, Adamo
Motion carried, 6-0
It wae moved by Comm, Thomson'and seconded by Comm. Johnson
to recommend adoption of Resolution 914 by roll call vote,
bizt'_would 'like'to amend 3t in that the City Park Staff will
restudy ~he are~ west'of Bubb R`oad;'soutk~ of McClellan.
AYES: Comm, 3ohnson; Rattipy; Snyder, Triomaon
NOES: Cbmiri: Frolicri - '
ABSTAINED: Comm. Gates
ABSENT: Comm, Adamo
Motiom carried, 4-:
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D. CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 915: 8-Z-64 to rezone 5 acree from
R-1:B-2~-to R-E:B-4 Park ; east end 0~ Price Avenue, north
side of ~~gnart Greek. Second i~:aririg,. (GF11son School)
Chairman Frolioh read the letters from the Law Office of
Marlais and Hover, dated April 22iid ancl May llth.
~ . The City Attorney,distinguished between taking over the
ownership of the property arid eimply.de.cid~ng whether or
not this property is suited for park purposes,
The.pttorx~ey!a lettere are tQ,be fi.led with the application
as part of trie .r~cor,d..
It was ~noved by G.omm. _T.homsor~ and, ~econ~ied,.by Comm. F~ampy
to qlose the.Seconc~ Hearing. _
AYES: Comm. Gatea, Johnsori; Rampy, Snyder, Thomson, Frolich
NOES: None
ABSENT : Qomm.~ ~ Qd,ama,
' Motion carried, 6-•0
~ It was moved by C,omm. G`ates an,d seconded.b.y.Comm, Johnsori
to recommend adoption of Resolution g15,
AYES: Comm. Gaties, Johnson, Rampy, Snyd~r,.;Thomson, Frolich
NOES: None
ABSENT: Comm. Adamo
Motion carried, 6-0
CITY COUNCIL RE$OLUTION 916: 9~2-64 tQ.r~zone 5 acree from
R-1:B-2 to R-E:B-4 Park ; weat end of Stonydale Drive,
east of Amelia Cou~t, SeCOnd.Hearing. (Stevens Creek
School) .
The Chairman asked for com~nents from the Commissioners.
There,were none. He then asked for comments from the
sudience. "~here were none.
It was moved by Comm.~Snyder an3,s~conded by Comm. Rampy
to close the Second Hearlrig.
Mqtion carried, 6.~0
It was moved by Cor~m, Snyder and seconde,d.by Comm, Rampy
to. recommend adoption o~-=~iesolution ~}16. -
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AYES: Comm. Johnson, Rampy, Snyder, Thomson, Frolich
NOE3: None
' ABSTAINED: Comm..G~,ates
~ AB5ENT;- Gomin. Adamo . ~ r . , '
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` Mo~~ori.carriedf 5-.p;
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F. CITY COtINCIE, RESOLUTION 91'~p. 10-Z-64 to rezone 5 acres from
R-1:B'=~ to R-E:B-4 Park ; west;side of Portal Avenue,
100 feet south of Amherst~Drive. Second Hearing.
(Port~2 School)
The Chairman asked for comments,from the Commissioners.
There were none. He then asked for comments from the
. audience,
Mrs. Juanita MeLareri, 22101 Lindy Lane, Cupertino, dlrected
a quest~ori to the City.Attorney:, She,askefl him how long
he felt the City can delay the deyelopment.of a property.
The City Attorney said he would be assuming the powers of a
~;~ud~e if he were to attempt,to give.a specific,answer td
that question. Extenuating eircumstanees.are taken into
consideration when a case such.as this is taken lnto court.
Mrs. MeLaren felt the owner of land should have the highest
and beat use of h1s property. She appealed to the City ~o
consider l,and that is close to the Foothilla for parks.
It was moved by Comm, Gates and seconded by Comm, Thomson
to elose the Second Hear:ing,
AYES: Comm. Gates, Johnson, Rampy, Snyder, Thomson, Frolich
NOES• None
ABSBNT: Comm. Adamo.
Motion carrled, 6-0
It wa.s moved by Comm. Tho,mson and seconded by Comm. Johnson
to recommend adoption of Resolution 917 by roll call vote.
RYES: Comm, Gates, Johnson, Rampy, Snyder, Thomson, Frolich
NOES: None
ABSENT: Comm. Adamo.,
Motion carried, 6-0
G. ALMADEN-WINDOR DEVELOPMENT CO.: Appl. 12-Z-64 to rezone
5.5 acres from R-1:B-2 to R-l; south end of Whitney Way,
380' east of Highway 9• Second Hearing.
Hearing was tabled, per request of applicant.
H. DfiEB CLIFFE DEVELOPMENT CO,c Appl. 13-Z..64 to rezone
.5 acres from R-1 to R-2 -H; east end of,Riverside Drive.
First Hearing. ,
Messrs. James Desmond and Goodwin Steinberg made the pre-
se3itatSdn: Mr.: De$nYbnd explained this property consists
of a 42 acre is land ,~utting into Deep Cliffe Golf Course.
He said that a unique development has been proposed by
Mr. Steinberg, the architect, which will preserve the con-
tours of the la nd-and the trees. If this property were
developed into R-1 it would require grading, shaving off
the top of the hill, removing trees, etc. The propoeed
cluster plan wonuld run 11 units to the aere and would
preserve most o.f the natural beauty of the area.
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- They will b~ 2-bedroom units of 1000,sq, ft, to 1200 sq,
ft. and w111 rurl $ia0 to $200 p~r month. Each unit wlll
have a magnificent v1~w. The exteriox,s.will have redwood
siding and a 5 ft, parapet shingle roof line. 74zey will
all be two-story units, The bu~ldings w311 be on a wood
post system so as not to disturb the tree roots.
TYie City Planner'was asked~ whether,he had any comments to
rriaYte. He stated this-'~is -a..unique s,i;te, noting the stately
~ manor on the crest o£ the.hill and the magnificent view,
He agreed that R-1 here wonld probably.deve~op into 21
dnita and would completely destroy the site .
~ He `Said that for aafe,~y sake, ,sidewalks woixld be needed
between the build'ings and the street. The psdinance calls
for'one gara~e and one parking space for each unit; but
realistically speaking, five parking spaces are needed,
The City Planner digplayed $1•~ cpncepts oP aeveral treat-
ments of this property. He indicated t}}at the high riae
apartment treatment would preserve the land most effectively
and would impair the view for the leust rnzmber cF people.
With R-1, all that would•be seen from above~would be row
upon row of rooftops.
The City Planner also stated this property could conceivably
be used for a church, which could probah7,y„also utilize
the present buildings, It could a13o be used for a
restaurant or public !buildirrgs. In any case, the traffic
problem would have to be reaolved,
Chairman Frolich added the information that hlgh rise
would demand ateel reinfor.cement and would no doubt dic-
tate the use of more expensive building materlals than
R-1 would.
Comm. Gate~ said he is against leueling of the trees and
felt tnat high rise would preserve the topography.
Mr. Tom Hunter said that he would.be in favor of hi~h rise
if the Planning Commission could nail the developer to St.
What he meanC was, what can the Plann~ng Commission do to
in~ure`the developer is:going to do what he says he is
~ going to do, once he gets the multlple zoning? The City
Attorney said that with R-24 zoning the Planning Commission
and the City Council have greater control than they have
with, say, R-1,
, Mr. Max Weil, 22432 Beluatrol ~t.,:felt that single family
dwellings would c'reate iess'traf,fi~.;,. ,
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Mrs. Anne Jagullo', 2~4;08 ~Haluatrol:_.~t,,,,.presented a peti-
t.ion against re2oning of this property, signed by 29
' residents ~in that area.::':~ ,
It was moved by Comm. Snyder and seconded by Comm, Thomson
to receive this petition.
Motion carried, 6-0
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Mrs. Max Weil, 22432 Balustrol Ct., wanted the Commission
to know they are not above this piece of land; that high
rlse would block their view, She added that it would be
poor planning to have duplexes on the highway, then R-1,
;a;nd then multiples,
Mr. Paul Morgan, 223g2 St. Andrews Avenue, asked whether
. riigh rise would require a new application from the developer.
Chairman E'ro.lich answered that a new city ordinance is in
tkte making, with a spec:ific ordinance for high rise. It is
still in the formative stage, however,
Mr. Tames Gorrell, 22395 St. Andrews Avenue, wondered why
single family homes could.not be put in and to only cut
down the trees where absol-utely necessary. He didn't see
any need to shave off the top of the hill.
Mr, Sam Sersin, 22380 Balustrol Court, wanted to go on
record as against high rise. He felt something should be
put in that is compatible wlth what is already there,
Mr. Alex Patrick, 2238g Balustrol Ct., was concerned with
the traffic problems whioh will be created with the develop-
ment of this property.
Mr. Lyle MeCarroll, 22417 Balustrol Ct „ said that he is
very disappointed to find he has moved into an apartment
area. .
Mrs. Patricia Anne Hunter, 22447 Balustrol Ct., cited the
vacancy factor of apartments in other areas. She wondered
whether apartments in the Deep Cliffe area could be rented,
The City Planner wanted to emphasize that high rise apart-
ments do not necessarily mean high density. He said they
would create large amounts of green area. He plans to
have more photographs at the Second Hearing to illustrate
his point.
Comm. Gates felt that communication between the developer
and the residents is needed.
Mr, Don Paulson, 22409 St. Andrews Avenue, asked the
developer if he originally planned to put R-1 on this land
when he purchased it. Answer was in the affirmative.
Comm. Snyder felt that clu8terin$ would help to save the
trees.
Mr. Steinberg said that high rise.could present many prob-
lems and that the developer's wishes should be considered.
He added that a high rise retirement home would minimize
the traff~iC problem, however.
It was moved by Comm. Snyder and seconded by Comm. Rampy
to close the First Hearing.
Motion carried, 6-0
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V UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
A, The fifth study session on the Proposed Zoning Or~lnances
will be held at City Hall, 7:30 P.M., Thursday, May 14th.
B, In regard to the communication received from the County
Planning Commission, it was decided the Assistant City
Engineer should convey the feeling of the Cupertino Planning
Commission that R-12 in that area would be in violation of
Cupertino's master plan in regard to density and associated
problems, R-24 zoning ~hould be suggested.
VI NEW BUSINESS
A. Chairman Frolich reminded the Commission it is time to elect
a new Chairman. They decided, due to the late hour, to
take this up at the next meeting.
VII ADJOURNMENT
It was moved by Comm. Snyder and seconded by Comm. Johnson to
ad~ourn at 11:55 P,M.
APPROVED:
/s/ Donald Frolich
(;nairman
ATTEST:
Robert S. hook
Secretary, Planning Commission
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