PC 09-09-96CITY OF CUPERTINO
10300 Torte Avenue
Cupertino, CA 95014
(408) 777-3308
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION HELD ON SEPTEMBER 9, 1996
ORDER OF BUSINESS
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
ROLL CALL
Commissioners present:
Commissioners absent:
Austin, Doyle, Mahoney, Harris
Roberts
Staff present:
Robert Cowan, Director of Community Dcvelopmcnt; Ciddy Wordell,
City Planner; Mich¢lle BjuITnan; Associate Planner; Colin Jung, Associate
Planner; Tom Wiles, Planning Intern; Carmen Lynaugh, Public Works; Robert
Kilian, Attorney; Eileen Murray, Deputy Counsel.
Vice Chair Harris chaired the meeting in Chairman Roberts' absence.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Minutes of the August 14, 1996 regular meeting
Minutes of the August 26, 1996 regular meeting
MOTION: Com. Doyle moved to approve the minutes of the August 14, 1996 meeting as
presented.
SECOND: Com. Austin
ABSTAIN: Com. Mahoney
ABSENT: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Passed
3-0-1
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Austin moved to approve the minutes of the August 26, 1996 meeting as
presented.
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-0
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:. Chair Harris noted written communication relative to
Item No. 4.
POSTPONEMENTS/REMOVAL FROM CALENDAR:
Application No.:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
2-EXC-96
The Plumbing Bank
Robert Allario
10297 So. DeAnza Blvd.
Planning Commission Minutes 2 September 9, 1996
Sign Exemption to permit mom than one wall sign in accordance with Chapmr 17.24.050 of the
Cupertino Municipal Code
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Categorically Exempt
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
APPLICATION WITHDRAWN.
Application No.:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
11-EXE-93 (Mod.) and 3-TM-92 (Mod.)
Mark Sandoval
Joseph and Xenia Czish
11845 Upland Way
Tentative Map and Hillside Exception Modification to decrease driveway slope and increase
retaining wall height on a residential hillside lot.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Categorically Exempt
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
REQUEST CONTINUANCE TO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPT. 23, 1996.
10.
Application No.(s):
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
14-U-96, 5-Z-96 and 21-EA-96
Thompson Residential Company
Tandem Computer
10750 Wolfe Road
Use Permit to construct 348 apartment units on 14 acres and rezone the property from Planned
Industrial Zone P (MP) to Planned Residential P (RES).
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Negative Declaration Recommended
TENTATIVE C1TY COUNCIL HEARING DATE: October 21, 1996
REQUEST CONrlNUANCE TO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPT. 23, 1996
11.
Application No.(s):
Applicant:
property Owner:
15-U-96, 6-Z-96 and 22-EA-96
Sandhill Properties
Tandem Computers
10741 No. Wolfe Road and 19590 Pnmeridge Avenue
Use Permit to construct 190 apartment units and 28 single family detached units on ten acres.
Zoning to change the zoning on a 10 acre parcel from Planned (Commercial, Office, Recreation) to
Planned (Residential) or other appropriate zone.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Negative Declaration Recommended
TENTATIVE CITY COUNCIL HEARING DATE: October 7, 1996
REQUEST CONTINUANCE TO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPT. 23, 1996.
12.
Application No.(s):
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
4-GPA-96 and 23-EA-96
City of Cupertino
Various
Citywide
Planning Commission Minutes ~ September 9, 1996
General Plan Amendment to the land usc and housing clcmcnts to redistribute residential potential
among thc planning districts and the undesignated classification.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Negative Declaration Recommended
TENTATIVE CITY COUNCIL HEARING DATE: October 21, 1996
REQUEST CONI1NUANCE TO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPT. 23,
1996.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Mahoney moved to continue Items 8, 10 and 12 to the September 23, 1996
Planning Commission meeting, and Item 11 to the October 14, 1996 Planning
Commission meeting.
Com. Austin
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-0
ORAL COMMUNICATION: None
CONSENT CALENDAR
Application No.:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
9-ASA-95 (Mod.)
Cupertino Village I
Cupertino Village Associates
Wolfe Road and Homestead Road
Architectural approval to modify approved exterior elevations at an existing shopping enter.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Categorically Exempt
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
Com. Doyle requested that Item 2 be removed from the Consent Calendar for discussion. He
expressed concern that the item was being agendized continually for discussion of separate items,
and asked if requests could be consolidated for presentation to the Planning Commission. He
suggested that the number of changes for the next year be restricted or consolidated for
presentation.
Mr. Rol~ert Cowan, Community Development Coordinator, explained that approval for individual
needs of the tenants is needed.
The applicant was not present. Mr. Cowan said he would pass on to the applicant the concern of
the Planning Commission to see a master plan for aH changes.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Austin moved to approve Application No. 9-ASA-95 (Mod.)
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-0
Planning Commission Minutes 4 September 9, 1996
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
Application No.:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
12-ASA-96
Nextel
Forge-Vidovich
10889 No. DeAnza Blvd.
Architectural review to construct an enhanced specialized mobile radio (ESMR) antenna facility on
a developed site (Cupertino Inn).
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Categorically Exempt
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
A discussion ensued relative to the consolidation of issues relative to antennas before presentation
to the Planning Commission.
~: Mr. Colm Jung, Associate Planner, reviewed the background of the application
as outlined in the attached staff repoa. He distributed photos of existing site conditions and
various antenna configurations. He noted the uniqueness of the application in that the applicant
was attempting to anticipate their capacity needs and therefore was requesting approval of three
different configurations in Phase 1, Phase 2 and Phase 3.
In response to Chair Harris' question about parking, Mr. Jung explained that staff is
recommending a portion of the parking lot be restriped with compact parking stalls added to
compensate for the equipment building. He noted that the compact stalls account for 35% of the
center total.
Com. Doyle asked if Nextel would be submitting applications for the next year, and requested
clarification on the use of the Apple Computer site.
Ms. Kfistin Leek, Nextel Communications, 475 14th Street, Oakland, explained that Nextel
anticipated one additional site for Cupertino in the next five years. She said that there were
adjacent sites in Los Altos and neighboring communities which would not require additional sites
other than one in the Cupertino community. She explained that the Apple site was researched and
the Cupe3'tino Inn is the preferred location because of its location adjacent to the freeway and its
ability to provide coverage in the recessed freeway area. She noted that the location would
eliminate the need for an additional site because of the coverage the site provided.
Ms. Leek explained that the siting requirements and the coverage provided is similar to cellular;
however, the technology is different because they provide the ESMR which is the enhanced
specialized mobile radio. She said that their consumer base caters to service providers such as
Federal Express, construction companies, and the mobile work force. She said that it had to be
line of sight; and the technology works similar to Cellular One and GTE.
Referring to the site elevation overheads, Mr. Jung and Ms. Leek answered questions.
Chair Harris opened the meeting for public input.
Planning Commission Minutes 5 September 9, 1996
Mr. Zafir Naqvi, RF Design Engineer, Nextel Conununieations, explained that a number of sites
were tested and the proposed site provided the best coverage for the targeted area near Highway
280 and the residential area of the San Jose site. He said that the Apple Computer site was not
acceptable as it did not provide the coverage needed.
Com. Doyle said that he did not like the idea of putting the towers on the hotel next to the highway
as there were already antennas up and he felt that if an antenna could be hidden on the Apple
Computer site it would be a better alternative. He said he was not supportive of proceeding with
an already unfavorable situation.
Com. Austin said she did not agree, stating that staff recommended approval in accordance with
the resolution. She stated that staff completed a study and decided where the best sound is and are
consolidating in a sense they are taking away fxom the Apple site. She said she supported the
application. Staff feels comfortable with Phase 3 and it is set back enough.
Mr. Jung said that if the Planning Commissioners were concerned about the height of the whip
antennas, applicant said they would be willing to go to the third configuration, bypassing one and
two.
Com. Mahoney said that if it is line of sight for radio, it is line of sight for vision and said he was
supportive of all three phases.
Chair I-lan'is said that her preference was to start with Phase 3. She said she was not in favor of
restriping the parking lot to 35% compact spaces when there is no issue about parking at the
center, and that she would like to see less in the way of compact spaces rather than more.
Com. Austin concurred.
Chair Harris said she would be willing to go with the less obtrusive format.
Ms. Leek said they would prefer to go through Phases 1, 2 and 3; however if it would benefit the
project, would be willing to go to Phase 3. She explained that for optimum capacity issue and for
coverage the omni whips do provide the better coverage.
MOTION:
SECOND:
NOES:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Austin moved to approve Application 12-ASA-96, without the restriping
and with Phase 3 only.
Com. Mahoney
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberts
Passed 3-1-0
PUBLIC HEARING
Application No.:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
6-U-96
Hossain E. Kh~iri
Same
10002 DeAnza Blvd.
Planning Commission Minutes 6 September 9, 1996
Use permit to demolish an abandoned service station and construct a 1,500 sq. Pc. service station
and car wash.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Categorically Exempt
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
CONTINUED FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF JULY 22, 1996
Staff~resentation: The vidco presentation reviewed the background of the application to demolish
the abandoned gas station and construct a new gas station and ear wash, ns outlined in the attached
staff report. The Planning Commission previously reviewed the application on July 22, 1996 and
continued the application to allow the applicant the opportunity to redesign the project. The
Commission's direction at that time was to produce a more significant and monumental building to
address the importance of the street intersection as the crossroads of the community. Staff
recommends denial of the application as applicant chose not to redesign the building and therefore
it does not meet the fundamental objective to create a landmark building that would address the
importance of the intersection. Staff feels the lot size would be better suited for a small
commercial building which would better meet the City's Heart of the City Specific Design Plan.
Chair Har~s no~ ~4tt~ comm~cation from the applicant dated August 26, 1996, detailing the
items that differ in their proposal.
Mr. Michael Khaziri, applicant, explained that the landscape design was reviewed with the
architect and updated with the use of a waterfall, arbors and natural stones and attractive
landscaping to create a park-like appearance. He said redesigning the building would have created
problems for traffic patterns for the gas station and car wash. It was decided to update the
landscaping with a unique sign in the front with columns and the pond with circulating waters at
the comer of the station. He said that stamped concrete was proposed for the driveway which
would create a brick-like driveway to respond to the concern about the use of too much euncrete
and asphalt. He said it was impossible to bring the building in the front. He passed around an
architectural drawing of the proposed facility and referred to an overhead of the artist's rendering
of the waterfall. He noted that the waterfall would have a pond at the base with lights in the pond
which would illuminate the water at night.
In response to Com. Mahoney's question about signage, Mr. Khaziri stated that he did not feel it
necessary:~ have signs on the canopy, there would be a price sign on the front as well as the Bay
Area Quality required price signs. A brief discussion ensued regarding signage, wherein Mr. Jung
explained the state requirements for signage.
Chair Harris opened the meeting for public comment.
Ms. Ann Anger, resident, said that she was opposed to the proposed gas station and car wash.
She stated that the comer was the main intersection of Cupertino and she felt it was disgraceful
that after so much time spent beautif3~ing Cupertino that a gas station and ear wash be considered
for that prominent comer. She said that she was a strong supporter of private property fights but
not for people who owned property that didn't live in Cupertino and exploited the eommtmity. She
reiterated that she was against the proposal; there was already a gas station located across the
street. She said that she has been fighting hard to upgrade Monta Vista and at on~ time there were
five gas stations in less than one block and they are now down to only one. She asked that the
Planning Commission Minutes 7 September 9, 1996
Planning Commission reconsider and approve something more attractive for the corner, otherwise
she felt her time spent on the upgrading of Monta Vista was wasted.
Mr. John Sta~on, Cupertino Chamber of Commerce, said that the Board has also discussed the
issue and were aware there were a number of community members that desired an alternative for
that corner. He repor~w,d that it was the consensus of the Board that the corner has been the site of
a gas station for a number of years, is zoned for a gas station, and the applicant has conformed the
gas station to the Stevens Creek Boulevard Master Plan. He noted that the gas stations lc~ted in
Cupertino, particularly the one located across from the proposed site, is one of the top 40 sales tax
generators in the community. He said that the sales tax is vi~al to Cupertino. He said the City has
the power to motivate a development on the corner that differs fi.om the proposal, but absent the
inecnfive in terms of density it is a very difficult thing for the applicant to provide. He urged the
Planning Commission to approve the project ns the applicant met the requirements of the City.
Chair Harris closed the public hearing.
Com. Austin said that it was a unique property and that the Heart of the City Specific Plan
specified the location should be a signature mark, such as a street monument, a public work of art,
a special landscaping or special pavement effect. She said she liked the stamped pavement effect,
the sign and the arbors, and she felt the applicant created an interesting facility which would be an
Com. Mahoney said that the two fundamental questions were (1) Is it appropriate to have a gas
station at the location? and (2) If so, what should it look like? He pointed out that without
alternate uses to justify denial of the application, the location is small and consolidation has not
oocurred. He said the location was well designed for a gas station and he was supportive of the
curreat design. He noted that he still had concerns about the signage.
Com. Doyle said that he was opposed to the gas station proposal. He said he felt the use of the site
should not be limited but that the proposal was not a significant improvement over the last
submittal and the design was not appropriate. He pointed out that the City has invested a lot in the
~ oftbe City concept, received a lot of input fi.om the community and incorporated it into the
General Plan, and the site is a significant site as part of that entire proposal and should be
upgraded and not just replicate what is on the other corner. Com. Doyle said that as a public policy
issue th~ community indicated that the intersection should reflect the history and tradition of
Cupertino and the present proposal did not embody that.
Chair Harris said that she was in favor of the revised proposal. She said there are high rise
buildings on two corners and a service station on the opposite corner, and she was not in favor of
having a high rise office building on the proposed site because it would appear imbalaneed. She
said she felt the applicant had created a striking, attractive and tasteful service station and had
complied with the requirements of the Heart of the Specific Plan. She said her first preference
would be to have the City buy the intersection and develop a park with a fountain; however she
felt the City did not have the resources at this time to acquire the property and develop it as a park.
She said that the applicant has designed a tasteful center, with attractive landscaping, special
pavement effects, and the fountain area could be viewed as an artwork. She expressed concern
about approving the waterfall and the sign without knowing what it would look like, and suggested
that the specific concerns be returned for further review.
Planning Commission Minutes 8 September 9, 1996
Com. Austin commented that th~ memorandum in Exhibit A from Freeman, Tung & Bottomley,
recommended that the gas station sign complement the building architecturally relative to shape,
paint, color, em.
Chair Nards recommended that the condition specify that the property owner maintain the site to
include street monuments, public art and landscaping as approved for the site by the Planning
Commission to acknowledge the importance of the site in the Heart of the City's Specific Plan
area. She said it would provide the opportunity for a future Planning Commission to approve a
different monument if appropriate.
MOTION:
SECOND:
NOES:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Mahoney moved to approve Application 6oU-96 with the conditions that
the foantain~ and signage be reviewed by consultants, Freeman, Tung &
Bottomley and brought to staff for review and Planning Commission for site and
architecture approval.
Com. Austin
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberts
Passed 3-1-0
Chair Harris stated that the item was final, unless appealed.
Application No.:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
5-TM-96
Aster 2
Ann McElroy
1358 So. Stelling Road
Tentative Map to subdivide an approximately 1 acre parcel into 2 parcels and one remainder
parcel.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Categorically Exempt
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
Staffpresentation: The video presentation reviewed the background of the application to subdivide
a one acre parcel into two parcels and one remainder lot, as outlined in the attached staff report.
The property owner will continue to reside on the property and two single family residences will be
built facing Aster Lane. Four eucalyptus and one almond tree will be removed for a roadway and
sidewalk. Staffreenmmends approval of the application.
To address neighborhood concerns about possible traffic increases, staff recommends that the City
allow Aster and Normandy Way to remain dead-ended.
Mr. Dick Childress, President, Debcor Corporation, explained that the application was for a single
family residential lot development. He said that the owner, Mrs. McEIroy, planned to remain on
the property and develop two single family lots, which is consistent with R1-6000 zoning. He said
the possibility of Aster Lane going through was discussed; however when it was developed in the
County some time ago the two streets were misaligned significantly making it difficult to go
through. A survey was conduetexl of the neighborhood, stating the owners intent to develop and
asking for their opinion on Aster Lane; 54 of the 71 neighborhood responses were opposed to
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Planning Commission Minutes
Aster Lane going through because of noise and traffic impacts. Mr. Childress noted that the
present configuration has Ix~n existence since 1960 and thc majority responding said they would
like to leave things as is. He explained that a connection to the sidewalk has been created so that
Aster Lane provides pedestrian access ail the way through and the sidewalk configuration and
eoraer has been changed to be consistent with city standards. He summarized that he felt it was an
appropriate development for the property and said he and Mrs. MeElroy agreed to the conditions
stated in the resolution. Mr. Childress explained that there is a walknsay that goes through and will
be maintained and connected to the Aster Lane sidewalk.
Ms. Michelle Bjurman, Planner II, stated that staff recommended that Aster Lane not go through,
and that the method of blecking it offwhen the property is subdivided would be decided as either a
cul de sac or dead end.
Chair Harris opened the meeting for public input.
Mr. Bob Hopkins, 7586 Normandy Way, requested that Aster Lane not go through to Rainbow as
he was concerned for the safety of his young children.
Ms. Sam Arzeno, 7665 Normandy Way, said that she spoke with 7 families about the survey and
none of them were aware that Aster Lane was the end of Normandy Way. She said she was
grateful to have input about Aster Lane, but did not understand the implications of having homes
and driveways put at the end of what was known as Normandy Way. With that in mind, she read
some concerns: Developing lots, moving trees, paving sidewalks and putting driveways at the end
of Normandy Way. She said that the neighbors felt it would change the atmosphere of the
neighborhood. The homeowners purchased homes in the area specifically because of the quiet,
rural atmosphere of what was called the horse farm at the end of the street. She said that the
towering Eucalyptus trees, the birds and wildlife that gather there lend a unique and peaceful
country feeling to the neighborhood. She said that the children and families won't benefit from it.
She said she understood that the homes needed to be built, and asked the developer to consider
developing the sites as flag lots with the driveways going out to South Stelling rather than Aster.
She noted that there were precedents in Cupertino where this has been done, and rather than
destroying a quiet neighborhood, put them out on Stelling which is aiready busy. Ms. Arzcoo
expressed concern for the children's safety as they currently play in the area. She also expressed
concern about the increased traffic in the area, the noise and disruption from the construction. She
said she would like the oppemmity to view the finali?~d plan to know what has been decided upon.
Ms. Arzeno said she felt the drawings did not address the issues when the driveways are proposed.
Chair Harris closed the public hearing portion of the meeting.
Com. Doyle said that he understood that what was presented was a subdivision, and if one of the
units needed an exception the Planning Commission would see it again, but as is, the proposal
conforms to the current zoning and requirements with the right setbacks.
Mr. Cowan clarified that the Planning Commission has the discretion of locating dhveway
approaches as part of the subdivision design, but not the house design itself.
Com. Doyle said he was not opposed to the subdivision and leaving the street closed off'. He said
that it was appropriate to take a one acre lot and subdivide it into the appropriate zoning consistent
Planning Commission Minutes 10 September 9, 1996
with the area. He said the input on the driveway is important and attempts to minimize the impact
to the street should be made. He said he supported the proposal with review required on the
driveway issue.
Com. Austin said she was in favor of the subdivision and in favor of keeping Aster closed as
recommended by staff. She said that she felt the driveways should be put in the best possible
location to allow for easy access to the property.
Mr. Cowan explained that the applicant would present a house design plan and garage location
further in the process and that from the staffpoint of view there was no critical location.
Chair Harris pointed out that a condition of approval that the driveways be designed to minimize
impact to Aster could be included.
Mr. Childress clarified that relative to the driveways, because the proposal is an outside comer,
there is not a significant problem because the visibility is far better than if it were on an inside
comer. He said the location of the driveway whether on the lek or fight side of lot No. 1 is not a
significant factor in terms of safety. He said that on lot No. 1 the preference was for the driveway
be on the lek side because it would minimize the amount of driveway work that goes in the area of
the sidewalk and give some separation and better yard space. He said they were willing to relocate
it as appropriate, but said there is no criteria indicating one is safer than the other.
Com. Mahoney said he supported the application, and as it involved only two houses, he felt the
driveways could be located where desired. He said he did not feel the application needed to be
reviewed again relative to the driveway location.
Chair Harris said she was in favor of the proposal, but because of the community input, would like
to see a condition stating the driveways should be designed to minimize impact to Aster and
Normandy and that the approval be by staff.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Austin moved to approve Application 5-TM-96 with a condition that the
driveways be designed to minimize impacts to Aster and Normandy Lanes and
approval be by staff.
Com. Mahoney
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-0
Mr. Cowan noted that the decision by the Planning Commission is final unless appealed within 14
calendar days.
Application No.:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
13-U-96 and 25-EA-96
Gumbas Restaurant
Michael Pierce
21678 Stevens Creek Blvd.
Use Permit to locate a 1,130 sq. ft. restaurant in an existing retail building.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Negative Declaration Recommended
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
Planning Commission Minutes ]J September 9, 1996
StaffDresentat/on: The video presentation reviewed the application for a use permit to relocate the
Gumhas restaurant to the Solmar Building, as outl/ned in thc attached staff report. Staff
recommends approval of the application concluding that parking is sufficient and thc restaurant
will not adversely impact thc nearby residential area.
Mr. Cowan said that staff recommended approval, noting the restaurant would add vitality to the
Monta Vista area and said that because of the scale of the project, would not likely have a
detrimental effect 6n the neighborhood.
Mr. Michael Rockhold, architect, said that he has worked with staff on the project and is in
conformance with all conditions. He ~ported that the property owners have entered into an
agreement to post bonds to assure that the improvements along Imperial are carried out to allow
the work on the interior improvements in the restaurant space to continue. He noted that the
restaurant would be put in place first and then subsequently the curb, gutter and sidewalk
improvements made along Imperial. He said that the applicant would be retoming with the sign
criteria and noted that he was currently working with the owners on a new sign program for the
building to assure conformance with the remainder of the buildings.
Chair Harris requested that signage and other architectural features be presented at one time.
Mr. Rockhold added that the hours of operation were fxom 11 a.m. to 11 p.m., seven days per
week. He noted that Sunday hours may be revised, opening later at 12 noon and closing at 9 p.m.
depending on customer traffic. He clarified that the restaurant would be serving beer and wine
with meals; however, it is primarily a family restaurant and the serving of beer and wine was
merely a supplement to some meals and should not be viewed as a bar-like atmosphere. Mr.
Reel&old said that there have been discussions with the owners about possible center renovations.
Chair Harris opened the meeting for public input.
Mr. John Statton, Chamber of Commerce, said that the Chamber was supportive of the project.
Gumbas was an asset to the Cupertino Village Shopping Center location and it will now serve a
need for a place to eat in that part of town.
Ms. Ann Anger, resident, said she was in favor of the project and would like to see more
restaurants in Moata Vista to make it a gathering place similar to SaraWga and Los G-atos.
Chair Harris closed the public input portion of the meeting.
In response to Com. Doyle's question about a previous concern relative to a restaurant exhaust fan
and odors, Mr. Cowan explained that the Bay Area Air Quality Control Board is obligated to
inspect restaurants and does so. He noted that the application was presented because it is located
within 100 feet from residential; the home is in a mixed commercial/retail PD zone.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Austin moved to grant a Negative Declaration on 25-EA-96
Com. Mahoney
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-0
Planning Commission Minutes z2 September 9, 1996
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Austin moved to approve Application 13-U-96
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-04)
Application No.:
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
12-u-as (Mod.)
Pizzeria Uno
Stephen Gazzera, Jr.
19930 Stevens Creek Blvd.
Use Permit Modification to extend weekday hours bom 10:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m., Monday through
Thursday, and from 11:00 p.m. to 12:00 a.m., Friday and Saturday.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Negative Declaration Recommended
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
Staff oresentation: The viden presentation reviewed the background of the request to extend the
hours of operation of the Pizzeria Uno restaurant, as presented in the aUached staff report. Staff
feels that the extended hours will not adversely effect the residential neighborhood and recommends
approval of the application.
Mr. Steve Bmska, partner, Gunther Restaurant Group, explained that the reason for extending the
hours of operation of the restaurant was to remain more competitive in the neighborhood. He said
that the restaurant had p~viously been closing an hour earlier than most competitors.
Chair Harris opened the meeting for public input.
Mr. Vic Detvin, 10109 Mello Place, explained that his residence was located directly south of the
pizzeria. He noted a correction to the wording of the staff report, pointing out that the word
"south" in the 3rd last line should read "west". Mr. Den, in expressed concern about noise
problems at the business location since 1989, emanating from car doors slamming, car alarms,
motorcycles, squealing tires in the parking lot, tour buses at times left running, and restaurant
deliveries in early morning hours. He said that the business receives its deliveries on Tuesday
mornings at which time the delivery trucks are left idling for lengthy periods. He reported that he
discusse6the mater with the code enforcement personnel previously and the problem was handled
temporarily. He also pointed out that in July the parking lot was repaved and the work began as
early as 6 a.m. On August 20 a pressure washer was used to clean equipment in the parking lot at
7 a.m. Mr. Dervin said that the parking lot does not quiet down until after 2 a.m. when the
employees leave the premises. He expressed frustration with the disturbances to his household
created by the late operating hours and said that the extension of hours will only make matters
worse as the patrons will not leave the m~anrant until 1:30 a.m., and the employees at 2 a.m. Mr.
Dervin said that the comment about remaining competitive with other restaurants in the area was
unwarranted in that the competition in the area closes much earlier at 10 p.m. and 8 p.m. on
Sundays. He said that it is one of the few pi2Ta restaurants that maintains a full service bar and
advertises a full service bar and grill. He commented that customers patronizing the establishment
between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m. during the week would not typically be a family, but other crowds,
which would add to the noise level. Mr. Dervin asked that the Planning Commission provide some
relief for his concerns.
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Mr. John Statton, Chamber of Commerce, reported that 15 months ago when Pizzeria Uno was
anticipating making the change they invited neighbors to provide input and six people attended. He
said the feeling was that it was a valuable asset to the community. Mr. Statton pointed out that
there are very few establishments that provide service late in the evening in Cupertino and urged
the Planning Commission to approve the application.
Chair Harris closed the public input portion of the meeting.
In response to Chair Harris' question about distance between the restaurant and Mr. Dervin's
residence, Mr. Tom Wiles, Planning Intern, reported that there was a 20 foot buffer from the end
of the parking lot to the property line, and 200 to 250 feet from the rear of the restaurant to Mr.
De,fin's property line. He said that an 8 foot masonry wall was provided on the south and west
boundary. He said he was not aware of any cede enforcement violations relative to the washing
and cleanup activity in the parking lot as mentioned by Mr. Dervin.
Com. Austin said that she empathized with Mr. Dervin's concerns. She said she was in favor of
extending the hours of the establishment as it was very difficult to find an eatery open late hours in
Cupertino.
In response to Com. Austin's concern about restricting trucks and busses on thc property and early
morning activity in response to Mr. Dervin's eoncems, Chair Harris cited conditions in effect
relative to trash removal, evening hour cleanup activities and future corrective measures. She
pointed out that the existing conditions provided for resolution measures.
Com. Austin suggested that if neighbors had futura concerns relative to the establishment in
question, they contact the City staff.
Com. Doyle said that he supported the change in hours for Pizzeria Uno, but that restrictions on
the amount of time that patrons remain in the establishment following closure of the restaurant be
enforced. He suggested that the hours be extended, but not the time opened for patrons, as patrons
tend to linger following closure of the restaurant.
A brief discussion ensued regarding the closing hours of establishments wherein Mr. Cowan
answered Commissioner's questions.
Com. Maboney said he was supportive of extending the hours of operation for one hour, and that
the language relative to patrons exiting the restaurant be modified to read 12:00 a.m. Monday
through Thursday, l:00 a.m. Friday and Saturday; and 1 l:00 p.m. Sunday.
Chair Harris concurred with Com. Mahoney. She said that there are presently no eateries other
than fast food open late in the evening in Cupertino and that such an establishment would be a
welcome addition for Cupertino. She said she was in favor of the new hours of operation; but that
it was reasonable to expect the patrons to leave the establishment one hour a~er closing and the
doors be closed.
Com. Doyle noted that there were restrictions in the resolution to limit the noise and hopefully
mitigations would alleviate the severe impact on the surrounding community.
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Com. Harris said she would caution the owner to be a remain a "good neighbor" to avoid negative
community input. She said that the restaurant is an asset to the community and it should be
entitled to have the same operating hours as other restaurants.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Mahoney moved to approve Application 12-U-88 {Mod.) with the hour
changes noted.
Com. Austin
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-0
Mr. Cowan noted that the action was final unless appealed to City Council within 14 calendar
days.
Application No.(s):
Applicant:
Property Owner:
Location:
10-U-96, 3-EXC-96 and 16-EA-96
Unocal Service Station {Robert Lee & Assoc.)
Stephen T. Carlson, Stevens Creek Cupertino Associates
20755 Stevens Creek Blvd.
Use Permit to ~plece aa existing service station with a new station and car wash.
ENVIRO~AL DETERMINATION: Negative Declaration Recommended
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION FINAL UNLESS APPEALED
CONIINUED FROM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF AUGUST 12, 1996.
Staff ~resentation: The video presentation reviewed the background of the application to replace
the existing service station with a new service station and car wash, and operation of a 24 hour
food mart inside the service station, as outlined in the attached staff report. Consultants Freeman,
Tung & Bottonfley have reviewed and approved the plans with the exception of the proposed
orange and blue illuminated tubes which staff believes are too bright for Stevens Creek Boulevard.
Staff recommends approval; the application is acceptable and will have no adverse affects relating
to noise, parking, security and signage. The Planning Commission's determination to approve or
deny will be final unless appealed within 14 calendar days.
Ms. Ciddy Wordell, City Planner, referred to an overhead listing the security issues idemified in
the staff.report. She recommended deletion of Item 6-1 referring to the pass-through payment
window because the clerk/servien area will not be closed off.
Referring to the colored photos showing the signage, Ms. Wordell said that ~aff was
recommending that the orange tubes not be illuminated. The Planning Commissioners studied the
color board passed around by Ms. Wordell.
Mr. Tom DeLuca, Unocal 76 project manager, introduced members of the Unocal design team.
Mr. DeLuca explained that Unocal leased the site from the Watkins-Carlson Parmership, owners
oftbe Target property. He outlined the review process followed by Unocal. As a result of leasing
the site, Unocal worked closely together with the parmership on the master plan for the center so
that there would be a consistent landscaping, architectural, circulation and parking plan between its
proposal and the future proposal to ensure consistency in the project. He reported that the Unocal
design team has met with the consultants, Freeman, Tung & Bottomley for their review and
consideration. APter incorporating some minor architectural and landscaping changes, the
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consultants have supported the plan. Staffhas also reviewed thc plan and approved the plan. Mr.
DeLuca repor~l that there is one outstanding design issue between Unocal and staff, which
pertains to the glow tubes. He noted that the glow tubes are the last and final architectural element
lef~ of the corporate image of the project. All other architectural elements of Unocal's standard
corporate design have been substantially e 'hminated or modified to customize the project for the
Target lecation. He asked that the Planning Commission approve the illuminated tubes as they
were not in a residential area, and they are part of a recognizable corporate image and they would
not present a negative impact on the area.
Mr. DeLuca addressed the noise study issue. He reported that Mr. Woska, the Noise Control
Officer posted notices to surrounding businesses and has not received any opposition to the noise
fi.om the car wash and granted the exemption request. He noted that the noise dBA at the sidewalk
is 66 dBA and the noise ordinance allows for 65 dBA, which is only a single dBA over the noise
ordinance allowance, which is relatively insi~nificant. He pointed out that the dBA fi.om the
busses in the area measured between 83 and 85 dBA.
Mr. DeLuca summarized the benefits of the plan. He pointed out that there are no funds allocated
to implement the Heart of the City's Specific Plan. The Heart of the City's Specific Plan is
implemented by private developers as they submit development projects along Stevens Creek
Boulevard. He reported that he met with the City design consultant, secured their support and will
be implementing the portion of the Heart oftbe City's Specific Plan along the portion of Stevens
Creek Boulevard. He said there will be a total of 20 feet of landscaping along Stevens Creek
Boulevard and that they have customized the project for this particular location with a unique
design that ties into the Heart oftha City Specific Plan as well as a future expansion oft_he Target
center. Relative to the car wash, Mr. DeLuca explained that the station reclaims 85% of the water
that is used at the location; the net result is it only takes about 10 gallons of flesh water to wash a
car, whereas studies indicate that a private party uses between 60 to 75 gallons of flesh water to
wash one ear. He euneluded by stating that Unocal has worked with the City staff and adjoining
shopping center owner to tie the project together and worked diligently with the City design
consultant and complied with all issues other than the glow tube.
Mr. DeLuca responded to concerns raised in Ms. George's letter in opposition to the car wash. He
noted that the project is not for a fast food restaurant on the site, but merely a snack shop. He
explained that the car wash was not a robotic type car wash, but an express-type ear wash where
the customer remains in the ear while going through the ear wash. He said that studies have
indicated that between 90-95% oftbe people who use the food mart and ear wash are the existing
customers of the gas station. He noted that the proposed ear wash operation differed from the Rain
Tree operation, and would hopefully alleviate some concern expressed in the letter of opposition.
Mr. Barry Watkins, landlord for Unocal, 17251 17th Street, Tnstin, California, said that the
company owned the center for 10 years. He said that in answer to a plea to generate more sales tax
revenue for the city they tried to mastermind a plan to inerense the volume and amenities to the
center and upgrade the center. He said it was their plan to generate one of the highest volume
Target's in northern California and to use a first class, first quality project. Part of the master plan
is to expand Target and renovate the Unocal facility which is estimated to generate $5.5 million per
year of which a substantial portion of taxes would be generated for the city. He said it was the
in~nfion of Unocal to maximize the total for the entire site by being able to do this type of
development and asked for approval to proceed as outlined. He said they were willing to address
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any outstanding concerns to arrive at something which would benefit the entire community with a
high quality development.
In response to Chair Harris' question about further development on the site, Mr. Watldns said that
it was dependent on whether or not the property to the west of Saich Way is acquired to be able to
combine the properties together. Under the present configuration, the 10.1 acres is what Unocal
has. He added that a restaurant on the property would utilize a large portion of the parking at the
Target stores, and it was felt the proposal was a compromise was the best for the entire project.
Chair Harris opened the hearing for public comment.
Ms. Joan George, owner of the self-service car wash located at 10115 Salch Way, said that her
place of business was not listed on the map in the agenda packet, but indicated as "miscellaneous
retail." She noted that there were also two other car washes in a one mile radius of the proposed
car wash; one at Stevens Creek and Stelling and another at DeAnza and Alves; as well as many
other liquor selling establishments within the area, and questioned the need for another. Ms.
George pointed out the naffic, noise and pollution impacts from the cars utilizing the ear wash, as
well as the noise level from the car wash facility on a busy Saturday. She said an exception will
also have to be made for signage to accommodate the need for different signs for the facility. She
said that in the past 15 years the siguage exceptions have been limited to keep the city unique. Ms.
George questioned the need for the many exceptions which would need to be granted for a business
that she felt is not really needed in Cupertino. She said that community growth is necessary but
should be geared to the needs of thc community and requested that the Planning Commission deny
the application. She thanked the Planning Commission for the opportunity to provide input in the
process.
Mr. Grover Steele, president of Moonlight Car Wash, Inc., explained that the company maintained
a lease agreement with the George family trust and operator Joan George. He stated his opposition
to the proposed ear wash facility, based on the fact that in addition to the operation on Saich Way,
there already exists two ear washes with convenience stores within a one mile radius, as well as the
Shell Station with a car wash and a fourth proposed at Saich and Stevens Creek and the fifth
proposed facility at Stevens Creek and DeAnza. He noted that the future anticipates a 30%
decrease in business when competition in the form of additional car washes are moved in to close
proximity, and said that a 30% decrease in business is catastrophic in today's business
environment.
Mr. Steele reported that recently his company entered into a sublease agreement with Mr. Harold
Willis who is an established hand car wash operator to use an unused portion of the Saich Way ear
wash for the operation of a custom hand wash ear wash. The sublease was conditional with Mr.
Willis that he obtain a business license from the City of Cupertino and the appropriate liability
insurance. In the last week of August, the City of Cupertino rejected Mr. Willis' application for a
business license with no reason for the rejection given. He said that the operation at 1011 Saich
Way conforms to the use permit for that property. As a result of his failure to obtain a business
license the Moonlight Car Wash operation has been forced to terminate its sublease with Mr.
Willis and refund his security deposit. Mr. Steele repotted that he viewed the rejection of Mr.
Willis' business application pending approval of competitive car washes by the City of Cupertino
as a discriminatory action which has caused significant financial damage to the Moonlight Car
Wash Corporation, and said that the matter has been brought to the attention of his attorney.
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Ms. WordeH clarified that the request for a hand car wash was presented to her and she needed to
verify how they would interpret somebody doing that in a facility that had a use permit for self
service. She said that today closure was brought to the issue and a business license was isued to
Mr. Willis on the condition that Mr. Willis would be personally bringing each car to the car wash
and driving it off and would not be stacking cars similar to a detailer. She said that it was his
business plan to bring the cars to the car wash.
Mr. Steele said he felt the action was discouraging, in that Mr. Willis presented a business plan
with documents showing the type of operation; he explained it to the city and the matter went on
for three weeks. He said Mr. Willis notified him on Saturday morning that his application had
been rejected. He added that it wns peculiar that his application for a license was granted aRer Mr.
Steele discussed the matter with his attorney.
Chair Harris closed thc public input portion of the public hearing.
Chair Harris declared a recess at 9:10 p.m. and resumed the meeting at 9:30 p.m. The same staff
and commissioners were present following the recess.
Mr. Andrew Pawlowski, Robert Lee & Associates, architects, explained that the sign depicted in
the document and staff report was the actual sign proposed for the installation. He said that the
sign design is referred to as a channel letter arrangement, and the color differentiation is a result of
the photocopying process; the tree color is illustrated by the color chip on the color board. A brief
discussion ensued regarding the signage colors wherein Mr. Pawlowski answered questions.
Chair Harris discussed the solid walls, not depicted in the rendering, noting that there did not seem
to be any mitigation of the wall surface. Mr. Pawiowski said that it was a concern expressed by
Freeman, Tung & Bottomley in response to the first submittal. He said that the initial proposal
was an austere unarticulated rear elevation oft he building, stucco fi.om the base, with no overhang
on the rear. The initial response fi.om Union 76 was to design a facia and the mansard roof around
all four sides of the building and at that time it was given to Freeman, Tung & Bottomley for
review. As a result of their review, a tile wainscot was added to the base as in the City's Heart of
the City Specific Plan. He briefly discussed the proposed landscape plan. He explained that the
west elevation of the car wash was a masonry pamper wall which had the same form but no
artienlation; a banded set of alternating textures of masonry block extended the entire way with no
slope to the roof form. He discussed further modifications. He said that the conditions suggest
that the roof mounted sign be moved back down to the facia and it will be done in accordance with
that condition. The roof sign would be no taller than the facia that it is mounted on.
Mr. Pawlowski addressed previously discussed architcetaral issues. He explained that the extent
of the vicinity map was clearly depicted by staff as to the extent they wanted it to show. The
direction given was to show the first building encountered in every direction, mostly so that
understanding the vicinity could be established. He said that the labeling of the miscellaneous
retail area was not intended to label the car wash as miscellaneous retail, but that it contained some
retail stores. The sign issues are as noted in the staff report that there are two distinct businesses
to operate on one parcel and therefore requested an exemption to have two signs. A mention was
made of the public safety issues noted in the staff report. He said they were issues that arise in
couneetion with any business operating with such hours and Unocal is committed to complying any
of those pertaining to public safety. He explained that they include types of things where you have
locked doors; the ability to close the doors and operate only through the drawers.
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In response to Com. Doyle's question about the need for a kiosk in the vicinity of the car wash,
Mr. Pawlowski said that the kiosk houses the attendant serving the car wash customers.
Mr. Michael Shea, Unocal, Corp., explained that the Unocal car washes are exterior car washes
where the customer remains in the ear and the car goes through the wash on a conveyor. There are
attendants located at the entrance and exit oftbe tunnel. The attendant placed at the entrance to the
tunnel guides the customer onto the conveyor and accepts payment for the car wash. In response
to a que~ian from Chair Harris, Mr. Shea estimated that the number of customers at the existing
facilities in the late hours were between 35 and 50. He said that when the car wash is closed there
is a single attendant in the store to handle transactions.
A discussion ensued regarding the siguage wherein Mr. Shea explained that a sign would indicate
the Pro Wash or Fast Break but not both. He indi¢~g~ that the panel below the 76 ball would
identify the primary format on the project which is the pro wash, because the fast break is only a
400 square foot retail space store. Mr. Pawlowski explained that Unocal is limited by ordinance
on the sign size.
Mr. Shca stated that before the remodeling of the stations, through an extensive survey of
customers to determine what businesses should be combined with the service stations, Unocal
determined that the number one desire of customers was an exterior car vosh; the second
preference was the fast break cenvenience store. Service stations throughout Caiifomia and
Hawaii that are being remodeled are now including the fast break convenience stores and the
exterior car washes.
There was a brief discussion about the spacing of street trees, wherein Ms. Wordell said that the
Heart of the City Specific Plan specifies planting the trees 25 feet apart.
Ms. Wordell commented on the noise issue, stating that the 66 dBA is only one dBA above the
standard and because of the ambient noise in the area, staff felt that it did not present a problem.
She explained that the noise exception was created by the blowers from the car wash, and would be
intermittent depending on the number of cars serviced.
Chair Harris discussed the response to the Environmental Review Committee. She said the issue
was noise and the concept of the Heart of the City, and the proposed car wash may not be the best
use to encourage pedestrian environment, because of the noise. It was not enough of an issue to
deny the environmental impact, but was a comment related to the character of the area and how we
might want to see it developed.
Com. Austin said that relative to the Heart of the City, the design was a standard Union 76 station
design and was not particularly exciting, but rather ordinary, and not of real interest with the
Whole Foods Market across the street, and Fontanas and Target in the area. She said that staff
felt that the noise issue was not a problem as the blowers were operating from 7 a.m. to 8 p.m.
Com. Austin said that she felt if they were trying to make the area pedestrian friendly, the car wash
noise would not be appropriate. She said the parking area was appropriate; the materials used in
the design were inexpensive materials, very practical. She said she did not want the sign
illuminated. She expressed concern about security, stating that if it was a 24 hour facility, it
should remain locked. She said she was not in favor of a 24 hour operation and was opposed to
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liquor sales after a certain hour. Com. Austin said that overall, she was not in favor of the
proposed facility.
Com. Doyle said that relative to the Heart of the City, he was in favor of the 25 foot vs. 20 foot
spacing of trees. He said the existing business is probably a good example of what happens when
the parking requirements are changed to let infill development occur in the front of the parking lot.
He said he would like the noise level of 66 dBA mitigated, but it might be difficult to do. He said
parking was appropriate. Com. Doyle said that he felt there was no character to the gas station
other than just a standard gas statinn design. He said he would like to see something more in line
with the previous gas station reviewed. He felt that the kiosk should be minimized instead of
sticking out by itself; try to eliminate it or move it into the facility. He said he did not approve of
thc 48 foot wall monolith even with thc texturing. He recommended climinating the lights in thc
color bars, or climinating the color bars if possible. Hc said that thc signs should meet the sign
ordinance; was not in favor of a 24 hour facility, perhaps closing timc of 10 p.m. or 11 p.m.
Overall be said he was not in favor of the proposal unless it had significant modifications.
Com. Maboney said that he felt it fit in with the Heart of City. He said he was not cuncemed with
the noise impacts or parking. He said that he felt the design was appropriate, although other
people think it needs more work, he felt it was consistent with other buildings. He said that he
agreed with stai~s recommendation relative to signs. He said he was not opposed to the station
operating 24 hours, but not the mart. He said that he would support it with some modifications.
Chair Ha_his said she did not like the particular usc in the Heart of the City; it is a very special part
of the Heart of the City; it is a redevelopment project and it would be appropriate to see it
redeveloped into something other than a service station in thc middle of a block. She said she felt
noise was an issue and would deter people from wanting to walk around the area. She said she felt
the design was garish and draws attention to itself. Chair Harris said she did not feel the design
was tasteful. She said that she did not like the metal space age canopy support or the orange
laminate features. She said she was opposed to a use with 66 dBA most of the day. She said she
concurred with Com. Doyle that thc signs should be under the ordinance. She said that she felt the
service station could operate 24 hours a day but that the mart should not be open past 11 p.m.,
mainly because of the safety issue. She said that she was not opposed to alcohol sales in the mart
during the hours the mart is open. She said that she would be more amenable to the use if it was
thc fast break and serviee station and not the car wash, noting that there were already too many car
washes and no need for more. Com. Harris said that the large blank wall with plantings was
acceptable; and the base created and roof line difference was appropriate. The large wall without
mitigation is not acceptable and needs some type of mitigation especially as it faces the center.
Mr. DeLuca said that he was aware the hearing was closed and would not try to address the issues
raised. He said that the applicant has demonstrated that they could work cooperatively with the
lessor, has worked with staff and the design consultant and believes they could address the
concerns that the Commission has raised. He said the concerns discussed were noted and
requested a 30 day cuntinuanee to work with staff in order to address those concerns.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Austin moved to continue Applications 10-U-96, 3-EXC-96 and 16-EA-96
to the October 14, 1996 Planning Commission meeting.
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-0
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OLD BUSINESS
13. Application No.:
Applicant:
Location:
9-U-94
Forge Homestead Aparanents
20691 Home~_e~el Road
Report to City Council regarding perimeter sound wall.
ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION: Categorically Exempt
TENTATIVE CITY COUNCIL HEARING DATE: September 16, 1996
Staff nresentation: Ms. Wordell reviewed the background of the item as outlined in the attached
staff mgort. The Planning Commission has been asked to make a report to the City Council on the
perimeter sound wall. It is ~aff's recommendation that a masonry wall would provide greater
long term noise and safety protection than wood.
Mr. John Vidovich, developer, displayed a sample of the proposed wood fence for examination.
He said that he spoke at the City Council meeting and the City Council requested the Planning
Commission present their findings and recommendation to the City Council. Mr. Vidovich said he
felt the proposed wood fence is above standard and is something that an area such as Los Altos
would require. He described the composition of the fence, noting its durability. He said the
concrete wall cracks as it ages, has movement, and the wood fence would age better and provide
the residential to residential atmosphere that they are trying to achieve at the Forge Homestead
apartment. He said felt very strongly about the wood fence and preferred it for his property; that it
was not a cost saving measure; and it was consistent with the type of clientele wanted to attract.
The planning Commission examined the fence sample.
Mr. Vidovich concluded that in most communities there are certain standards for residential to
residential and usually the standard is wood. He said concrete was not mentioned and it was his
intent to build a project consistent with what is next door. He said the type of wood proposed is
superior to the normal small wood fence; it meets the criteria of being solid; meets the noise
attenuation; and yet provides the aesthetic quality of wood.
Chair Ha~is questioned whether Mr. Vidovich had considered putting up a masonry wall with the
wood fence inside the masomy wall. Mr. Vidovich responded that the original proposal was to put
masonry along the Sunnyvale property line where the older fourplexes were; however the City
Council indicated they would like to see consistent material throughout the entire project. He said
he had not considered putting the two different fences up. Responding to Com. Doyle, Mr.
Vidovich said he felt that as a property owner he believed the wood fence would enhance the value
of his property as well as rite neighborhood. He said he felt the wood fence provides a certain
character similar to what is found in Saratoga.
Chair Harris opened the meeting for public input.
Ms. Lynore Slaten, 20552 Shady Oak Lane, President, Cupertino Countrywood Board of
Directors, said she represented the owners of 106 townhomes in Cupertino. She said they
understood from the beginning of thc project that there would be a masonry sound wall on the west,
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north and east perimeter of the property. In October 1994, the Planning Commission directed that
they meet with the Forge developer to hear about the project; hence they invited the developer to
attend the Cupertino Countrywood's annual meeting on November 14, 1994 to present the project.
Mr. Jim Sisk made the presentation and told them the developer would provide "as tall a masonry
wall as the City will allow us to build around the perimeter of our property line." She referred to
an overhead of notes she had taken at the meeting. Sl~e said there were 100 people at the meeting
who heard the same thing and would testify to it. She said from then on they believed that the wall
surrounding the property would be masonry, never believing otherwise; if they believed otherwise,
they would have fought for the masonry wall long ago. She said at the Planning Commission
meeting of January 23, 1995, the site plan was marked up to indicate an 8 foot sound wall and
condition No. 14 was added to Resolution No. 4584 of Application 4-U-94, concerning perimeter
fencing. Because of this act of the Planning Commission, the words "8 foot sound wall" were
added to the site plan. She said it was used throughout the City Council meeting many times on
February 21, 1995; it was referred to and seen extensively in the videotape fi'om the meeting.
During the straw vote as well as the final approval vote, the 8 foot wall was explicitly included as a
condition of approval. The words "8 foot wall" were specified by Bautista, Dean and Mr. Cowan
during that meeting. She pointed out that the minutes of the meeting were incorrectly transcribed
and were referred to in the handouts also. The videotape confirms that an 8 foot wall and only the
word "wall" was used to refer to that barrier in the tape; It was not "perimeter fencing". Ms.
Slaten referred to an overhead illustrating a fax from Ciddy Wordell confimfing that the use permit
used the words "wall" and not the word "fence". The summary of the July 15 meeting in the
handout states that only "wall" was used. The ~sult was that Exhibit E, approved site plan, shows
three sides of the perimeter in a dark line with the words "8 foot sound wall".
Ms. Slaten said that they had the word of Jim Sisk promising masonry and because of his original
promise they never again questioned the material of thc wall. She said they are objecting to it now
as soon as they understood that a wood fence was intended. She said that Jim Sisk told the City
Council on July 15 that he "may have offered masonry to them at that meeting to get our support,
but he only did it in an attempt to get their support." Ms. Slaten said they understood that a wall is
constructed of masonry, and a sound wall is also a masonry wall, similar to that found next to
freeways throughout California. Barbara Koppell, a former councilmember, reassured them that
her understanding and intention during the City Council approval discussions and voting was also
that the 8 foot wall was to be masonry. At the July 15 City Council meeting Mayor Burnett stated
he also understood that the wall was to be masonry when he voted his approval for the project.
Ms. Slat~ stated that a masom~ sound wall was needed for safety, security and privacy. There is
only 10 feet between that wall and the residents' kitchens and family rooms. Mr. Vidovich
asserted before the July 15 "the reason for a masonry wall on the Sunnyvale west side was just
physical protection, actual physical protection. It would stop a bullet if it went through." She said
that the residents also needed that protection, times are such that people are less predictable than
before; they express anger and fi-astration differently than before. She said that her townhome
backs up to Homestead with an 8 foot masonry wall behind the patio. A few years ago, a
Countrywood neighbor had a car come around the comer all the way through the wall on
Home.~_~,t and stop in her sliding glass door. Without the masonry wall to lessen the impact, her
neighbor would have been killed in her own home. She said that such a threat to the people on the
west side was inexcusable; they must be safely protected by a masonry wall. The residents
believed all along that a solid 8 foot masonry wall was intended all along by the City Council. She
said that the masonry wall was safer and more secure.
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Mr. Naren Kaita, 586 La Conner Drive, Sunnyvale, said that a more honest comparison would
have been to have a masonry wall sample to compare it to the wood fence sample. He said that
there could be a very effective masonry wall with a very long life. He commented that tithe Great
Wall of China was wood, it would not be in existence today. Mr. Kaita said he attended the first
meeting and recalled the words spoken by Mr. Sisk, as well as other meetings where the word
"wall" was used again and again and the word "fence" was not mentioned. He questioned why
there was so much concern from the west side. He said the residents of the single family homes
have the same needs and concerns for safety. He said that if it was perceived that a masonry wail
was inferior, why consideration was not given to a good brick or solid stone wall which would be
more attractive than a wood fence. He said it should be consistent aiong the three sides with the
same protection provided, as safety is a major concern of ail residents. The families are concerned
about the possibility of projectiles endangering their safety.
Ms. Janet Wang, 590 LaCouner Drive, Sunnyvale, said she wanted to stress the safety factor. A
few weeks ago her wooden fence was damaged during construction which is an indication of poor
safety factor. She said she aiso understood that the wall would be a masonry wall all around and
conform with all the neighborhood.
Mr. Ronald Cook, 20598 Homestead Road, representing the Independent Order of Oddfellows,
Cupertino Lodge No. 70, which is a neighboring property to the east, said they appreciate the fact
they have masomy walls on two sides of the property, as it prevents children from wandering onto
the property because it is open onto the street. He said there was a letter in the agenda packets
stating their desire to have a masonry wall on all three sides. He said they were concerned with
safety and maintenance issues aiso. Mr. Cook expressed concern that the footings of the
~taining wall be strong enough to withstand the pressure from the dirt which is two feet higher
than the property. Homestead Road goes downhill from the Forge property toward DeAnza
Boulevard which results in the Oddfellows property being two feet lower. He said that another
concern is that it is marginally safe to exit the property because of the traffic on Homestead Road.
He said it is hoped that the landscaping plan and the wall plan being proposed does not block the
view so that egress than be safely made from the property.
Chair Harris asked that it be confirmed that the landscaping plan will not create a safety issue.
Mr. David Kiel, 11107 Flowering Pear Drive, said that the proposed wall must provide at least
three pfimmS' barriers; that of safety, privacy and sound. He pointed out that these concerns have
been articulated numerous times before both the Planning Commission and the City Council. He
expressed concern about the possibility of antes coming through the fences, as well as the mention
of bullets. He said that with a significant maintenance schedule and plan the wood fence could
provide for barriers for sound and privacy, but that the wood fence would not provide the safety
barrier needed. With regard to aesthetics, the developer mentioned that they were the types of
wood fences built in Los Altos, Los Gates, and Saratoga; however, Cupertino is not Los Gates or
Los Altos as those communities do not have the high density apartment projects such as the Forge
one which should be considered.
Mr. Sui-hing Leung, 20674 Maple Tree Place, said he has been a resident of Countrywood for
more than ten years and was opposed to the proposed wood fence. He said he lived on the
Homestead side of Countrywood behind the Oddfellows property and pointed out that there was a 4
foot thick, 6 foot tall masonry wall separating his property from the Oddfellows property. He said
from experience that the wail is definitely working in cutting down the traffic noise and offering a
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sense of security and privacy; for more than ten years it haan't broken down. He said he does not
worry about the safety factor because of the fence. He reported that the issue of masonry walls
was definitely raised early in the meetings with the developer. He said he was present at the
meeting when Mr. Sisk made the statement about the masonry wall and if the wood fence or wood
wail ever been raised, he would have definitely opposed it and he would not have agreed to the
perimeter parking because of the potentlai safety and security issues. Mr. Leung said he enneurred
with Mr. Kalra's and Ms. Slaten's concerns about safety. He said he felt the proposed wood fence
would not be an effective sound barrier.
Mr. Leung referred to an overhead of aa August I letter to Jim Sisk, from an acoustic consultant
on behalf of the developer, "the wall should be constructed so as to insure that there are no
openings or cracks even after the affect of weathering", meaning to be effective, the barrier must be
airtight everywhere from the ground to the top. He said that often times, the important requirement
of air-tightness is overlooked. He summarized that the barrier is marginal when new and becomes
ineffective in a matter of years. The important criteria that should be used over time is whether
this barrier is effective as a sound barrier.
Mr. Vidovich explained that the reason masonry was proposed on the Sunnyvale side was because
the units next door have asphalt againnt the proposed fence and as a practicai consideration the
autos have possibility of contact in the fence. Because wood could not withstand such an impact, it
was proposed only in the areas where it was likely a car would approach the fence to solve the
problems with the use of metal bollards, which are metal pipes filled with concrete. He reiterated
that it is typical to have wood fencing in residential to residential areas. Wood gives more of a
neighborhood atmosphere opposed to erecting a concrete wall from one type of residential to
another type of residentiai. He said it was regrettable that the neighbors felt differently, but he
was very much in favor of a wood fence. In response to Com. Doyle's question, Mr. Vidovich
stated that in certain communities such as Sea Ranch he would be required to install a redwood
fence. He said that for most apamnent complexes, most people would prefer stucco because it is
lower maintenance but does not provide the same aanosphere. He said the proposed fence is a
redwood fence and he felt it would be detrimental to his property and those who live there to be
forced to live with a concrete fence.
Chaii- Harris closed the public hearing.
Com. Doyle said that he undersWod both sides of the equation. The wood fence provides a sorer
look; however for the safety factor, walls do not stop a lot. He said he fundamentally felt that the
public wishes are what is si?ificant and the Planning Commission's mission is to reflect the public
input. He said he supported the mason~ wall, but that the wall should be high quaiity, rich in
detail, and with a positive impact in that development.
Com. Mahoney concurred with Com. Doyle. He said it was clear that the neighbors understood it
would be a masonry wall. Arguments have been presented about the wood fence but the neighbors
remain unconvinced and their choice is for a masonry wall. He said he agreed that a masronry wall
was more suitable.
Com. Austin said that the definition of a wall does not include the materials from which it is
constructed. She said that she disliked the Highway 85 concrete walls and considered them very
unattractive. However, she noted that the neighbors want the masonry wall and she supported the
neighbors' choice.
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Chair Harris said that there were two neighborhoods, the people who already live there and the
people who will live there. She said that as a resident she would prefer the wood fence as it is
more attraetfive, classy and suburban looking. Unfortunately the future residents are not there yet
and they wll move in afar what is constructed and accept it. She said that she understood how the
existing community thought the wall was going to be masonry and that she supported the concept
of masonry. She suggested that the report specify that it should be an aesthetic masonry wall as
opposed to a series of gray concrete blocks spaced together. She commented that she felt in the
end the wood is more attractive but in this particular case there are other issues inolved and she
supports those issues.
Following a brief disenssion, there was consensus that the reasons for choosing the masonry wail
included the perception of the adjacent community that the masonry wall would be more secure,
safer, and premier parking being an issue; sound-wise there is no strong difference; safety does
not have a measurable impact. The primary distinction is the public input and the Planning
Commission is attempting to reflect the requirements.
Mr. Kilian cautioned the members of the Planning Commission that their job is not to simply
decide what the neighbors want, there has to be a decision based upon some objective issues that
you make a determination of independent of what the neighbors want.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
NOES:
VOTE:
Com. Mahoney moved that the Planning Commission report to the City Council
that there was consensus that an aesthetically pleasing masonry wall would
provide greater long term noise and safety protection than the wood fence. Public
input was significant in the findings.
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberls
Com. Austin
Passed 3-1-0
14. Application No.:
Historic Preservation Ordinance (4-EA-96)
Consideration of a study session setting for the September 23, 1996 continued meeting on the
Historic Preservation Ordinance.
Staff presentation: Mr. Cowan explained that the purpose of the item was to obtain Planning
Commission concurrence that a study session be scheduled as part of the next Planning
Commission meeting. It was suggested that the study session begin at 5:30, 6:00 or 7:00 p.m.
followed by the regular Plmming Commission meeting.
Chair Harris opened the meeting for public comment.
Mr. George Monk, 19985 Price Avenue, said he owned one of the historically listed properties. He
requested that at least two hours be devoted to discussion and that the proposed deadline be
deferred.
Following a brief discussion, there was eoasensus to changc thc meeting date to Wednesday,
September 25 because of religious holidays. There was consensus to begin the meeting at 6 p.m.,
with a study session for 1 hour, from 6 to 7 p.m., with regular meeting beginning at 7:15 p.m. The
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study session will take place in the downstairs conference room and regular meeting in Council
Chambers.
MOTION:
SECOND:
ABSENT:
VOTE:
Com. Mahoney moved to continue the September 23, 1996 Planning
Commission meeting to September 25, 1996
Com. Doyle
Com. Roberts
Passed 4-0-0
NEW BUSINESS: None
REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION: None
REPORT OF THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT: None
DISCUSSION OF NEWSPAPER CLIPPING: None
ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting adjourned at 11:15 p.m. to the September 25 Planning
Commission meeting, study session beginning at 6:00 p.m., to be followed
by the regular Planning Commission meeting.
Resp~tfully Submitted,
Recording Secretary