P&R 04-05-12 APPROVED AMENDED MINUTES
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
CITY OF CUPERTINO
Regular Meeting
April 5, 2012 at 7:00 p.m.
Community Hall, 10350 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA
Note: This meeting will be televised
1. CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson David Greenstein called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the
Community Hall Council Chamber, 10350 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3. ROLL CALL
Commissioners present: Darcy Paul, David Greenstein, Marcia St.Clair,
David Fling
Commissioners absent: David Lee
Staff present: Mark Linder, Timm Borden, Roger Lee, Donna
Henriques
4. MISCELLANEOUS—NO ACTION REQUIRED
A. Staff oral reports
Director Mark Linder said the McClellan Ranch Master Plan was
discussed at the April 3 City Council meeting and there were no major
changes to the Commission's recommendations.
Director Linder said this year's, Big Bunny Fun Run is on Saturday, April
7, beginning at City Hall Civic Center at 9:00 a.m. Pre-registration is up
to 450 and registration is open online or in person at the Quinlan
Community Center on Friday, April 6 until 6:00 p.m. or register the day of
the race before 8:45 a.m. In honor of the Parks and Recreation's 50th
Anniversary this year, each participant will receive a wristband and $5.00
from each registration will go to Charity Water Organization.
B. Commissioner contacts
Commissioner St.Clair said that she was recently at Blackberry Farm Golf
Course and heard some complaints about the weeds being out of control
and players were asking why the ninth hole reconstruction is the last part
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of the golf course to be upgraded. She also reported that she attended the
March Mayor's meeting and that the TICC Commission expressed interest
in the placing of cell towers in City parks.
5. MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
A. Regular meeting of March 1, 2012
Action: Commissioner Paul made a motion to approve the minutes
and Commissioner Fung seconded the motion. The motion carried
unanimously,with one absence.
6. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS—None
7. NEW BUSINESS - None
8. OLD BUSINESS
A. Linda Vista Ponds update—Roger Lee, Assistant Director, Public Works -
Maintenance
Director Mark Linder said that the Commission and the community have
expressed interest in what is being done to restore the ponds in Linda Vista
Park. He said that Timm Borden, Public Works Director and his Assistant
Director, Roger Lee have been working on reconstruction options. Since
there is money approved by Council in the CIP budget, Public Works is
currently working with a consulting firm to decide the best construction
option. Director Linder said the Commission's comments will be taken into
consideration when the construction options are presented to Council.
Assistant Director of Public Works, Roger Lee said the pond has not been in
use for several years and they are currently considering three options to better
utilize this picturesque eleven-acre City Park. He presented a brief history of
the park and said that this reconstruction project was included in the 2010-11
adopted CIP budget on the unfunded list.
The three options presented were as follows:
• Concept 1 —Full restoration of the upper and lower ponds with an
estimated cost of$1,180,000.
• Concept 2—Partial restoration of the upper pond only, with an existing
swale with vegetated check dams at an estimated cost of$1,100,000.
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• Concept 3 —Removal of upper and lower ponds with a dry creek, and
an expanded overlook area, and picnic area with an estimated cost of
$1,043,000.
• Access Improvements, such as ADA handrails and new walkways
from the parking area to the reconstructed area, would be added as
needed with an estimated cost of$570,000.
Assistant Director Lee said the costs associated with each Concept include an
estimated cost of the ADA access improvements.
Director Borden said it would be useful to get the Commissioners' thoughts about
what they like about the three Concepts and he will take the same presentation to
Council and include the Commissioners' comments so Public Works can move
forward with having the preferred concept included in the 2012-13 CIP budget.
Commissioner St.Clair asked how the leaves and debris from the trees would be
prevented from clogging up the waterfall. Assistant Director Lee said the
waterfall will be realigned and the manhole will be shifted to the south of the
existing storm-drain manhole. He also said there may be one or two trees that
could be removed from that area.
Commissioner Paul asked what the difference of annual maintenance costs to the
City would be between the Concepts, with and without water. Mr. Lee said the
costs would be estimated at about $30,000 per year, regardless of whether it was
Concept 1 or 2.
Commissioner Paul asked whether Concept 1 involved removing the upper pond
and surrounding boulders and Mr. Lee said that all concrete and boulders would
be removed and reused. The new ponds would be fit more into the landscape
rather than the previous location.
Commissioner Paul asked if Concept 3 had a waterfall and Mr. Lee said that the
ponds and the waterfall would be removed so there would be no water features at
all in that option.
Commissioner Fung asked if there are going to be a lot of trees removed due to
the ADA picnic area access plan improvements. Mr. Lee said he feels they would
be able to move the pathway out into the turf area so they wouldn't have to
remove any of the trees in that area. Director Borden said the consultants felt they
could grade around the trees so they could be saved.
Commissioner Fung also asked if there was a water feature with a waterfall if it
would be running 24-hours a day and Mr. Lee said no, and that it would cycle off
and on.
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Chair Greenstein asked if the ponds were man-made or if there were natural
wetlands or ponds there originally. Mr. Lee said the ponds were definitely man-
made so Chair Greenstein asked why they leaked. Mr. Lee said because concrete
can crack and leak over time. Chair Greenstein asked how they could be sure that
they wouldn't leak if they were rebuilt and Mr. Lee said the design would be
better now and more maintenance-free than in 1970.
Chair Greenstein also said that the accessibility improvements should be done
regardless of which option is chosen and he asked whether the handrails have to
be added. Assistant Director Lee said that handrails are required for any trail area
that exceeds a 5% slope.
Commissioner St.Clair said she favors Concept# 2 Partial Restoration because
she thinks it would be more compact to take care of the upper pond and would
give more flexibility to use the space in the picnicking area. She would also like
to open up the old haul road that ends across from the entrance to McClellan
Ranch Preserve.
Commissioner Paul said he favors Concept# 3 because he feels the ponds were
originally built in the park due to the nature of the rural setting of the park back in
the 70's and thinks that it's now outdated. He believes that due to the current
water conservation policies, that the ponds should be removed. Also, removal of
the ponds would make more useable space available for picnic areas, etc.
Commissioner Fung said he also favors Concept# 3 because of a lot of the same
reasons regarding water features and the additional expense of$30,000 per year in
water maintenance costs. He also thinks we should obtain more feedback from
the public regarding what features they would want in the park. He added that
although he's not set on the idea of a contained pathway and he feels that it's
reasonable to include the ADA access improvements, regardless of which
Concept is chosen.
Commissioner Greenstein said that water features are not as desirable as they
once were because of the maintenance expenses and have already been replaced
in Portal Park by a play area for children because there are more issues these days
with the danger of having water in a park area. He said there are certain park
locations where water features are more desirable to look at but since Linda Vista
Park is set back and not very visible, he feels it's not worth the extra money to put
in a water feature. He would also like to see more useable space for park benches
and picnic areas and would like to hear back from the public regarding the water
feature. He also favors Concept# 3.
Director Borden thanked the Commission for their feedback and said it was very
helpful. He said they would be bringing this item back to Council and if Council
makes a decision on one of the Concepts presented, Public Works will move
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forward with further notification to obtain feedback from the surrounding
neighborhood and then proceed with the project.
9. ADJOURNMENT - Chair Greenstein adjourned the meeting at 8:03 p.m.
Res ectfully submitted,
Donna Henriques, Administrative sistant
Minutes approved at the May 3, 2012 regular meeting
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