P&R 07-10-03 APPROVED
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
CITY OF CUPERTINO
REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING
THURSDAY, JULY 10, 2003
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Bradford called the regular meeting of the Parks and Recreation Commission to
order at 7 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Commissioners present:
Commissioners absent:
Staff present:
Others present:
Jeanne Bradford, Rod Brown, Frank Jelinch, Roger Peng, Kris
Wang
None
Therese Ambrosi Smith, Director; Marie Preston, Administrative
Secretary
Jana Sokale, Environmental Planner
1. MINUTES OF THE PREVIOUS MEETING - June 5, 2003
ACTION: The minutes were unanimously approved as written.
2. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Tony and Grace Toy, 10130 Crescent Road, read their July 10 report that breaks down
their concerns regarding tennis court use issues.
Grant Cower, 10158 Ridgeway Drive, pass holder of the Sports Center and president of
the Cupertino Tennis Club, stated that the current allocation of court time is inequitable
and that individuals have frequently and aggressively reserved court #1 for themselves
denying reasonable use of that favored court by others. He is in favor of reviewing the
tennis court reservation policy.
Michael Zimmerman, 870 E. E1 Camino Real, #54, Mountain View, pass holder of the
Sports Center and officer of the Cupertino Tennis Club, stated that two people
continually monopolize court #1, which has the best lighting. He believes this couple
uses aggressive tactics to reserve this court almost exclusively for themselves and their
guests. This opportunity may be in the current regulations, so he requested that this
policy be reviewed so that all tennis playing pass holders can be accommodated.
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Chairperson Bradford stated that the commission cannot discuss this issue, but she did
share that she has had an onslaught of emails about this particular subject. This topic will
be placed on the Commission's October agenda.
3. WRITTEN - none
UNFINISHED BUS1NESS
A. Stevens Creek Corridor
1. Small-group presentations: The following groups made presentations on
their refined visions for the Stevens Creek Corridor:
Community Activity Zone Group-Mark Adams, Janet Van Zoeren,
Rusty Britt, Ned Britt, Harold Van Zoeren. They gave a PowerPoint
presentation. Their refined drawing will be copied and distributed to
the Commission.
· Natural and Historic Preservation Committee--Craig Breon. A hard
copy of their refined vision points was distributed to the commission.
· Cupertino Center for Living History-Christine Jeffers.
· Larry Cormier and Norma Agar presented their vision to maintain the
golf course. He handed over a petition signed by over 800 users of the
golf course who are residents and non-residents and who support the
preservation of the golf course.
· Representing the Oakdell Ranch Homeowners Association, Tim
Chandler, president, opposes making Stevens Creek Blvd. the entrance
to the Stevens Creek Corridor, in favor of keeping the golf course, in
favor of shortening the hours of the Blue Pheasant, and in favor of
adding only pedestrian lights at Bubb and Stevens Creek by the post
office.
2. Discussion: Director Therese Smith and Ms. Jana Sokale presented a
PowerPoint presentation on ecological restoration opportunities. Director
Smith presented a short video that showed where 50 and 100 feet setbacks
from top of bank might occur.
Commission Comments:
Commissioner Jelinch is interested in pursuing other sources of funding for restoration.
Ms. Sokale recommended that the commission should request a restoration plan that can
be done in phases.
Vice Chair Brown requested a map showing potential setbacks. Director Smith answered
that that will ultimately happen and surveyors are currently mapping the creek. An
accurate map of the creek's centerline will soon be available.
Director Smith reported that Alex Tsai, resident facing Blackberry Farm, wanted to
remind the commission and others that there are restrictions on the entrance on San
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Fernando, and that the driveway easement agreement precludes access after 11 p.m. and
before 7 a.m.
Chairperson Bradford stated that the goals of the meeting were for the commission to
make recommendations on each of the four issues: goals for the creek (riparian) setback,
year round use of the park, goals for the size of the picnic grounds, and entry from
Stevens Creek Boulevard.
Public Comments:
Rhoda Fry, 10351 San Fernando Avenue, sees Blackberry Farm as an historic seasonal
resort. Spoke in favor of an entrance on Stevens Creek Blvd. and the golf course, against
year-round use, and against organized use of the parkland.
Roseland Bivings, PO Box 1401, Mountain View, spoke in favor of keeping the golf
course.
Marylin McCarthy, 10159 Cass Place, spoke on behalf of the Natural and Historical
Preservation Committee who do not support changing the entrance to Stevens Creek
Blvd.; supports year-round use.
Arthur Robertson, 21979 Oakdell Place, is opposed to a Stevens Creek Blvd. entrance.
He believes that by eliminating the corporate picnic aspect of the parkland, traffic will be
dramatically reduced and eliminate the need and associated costs in changing the park
entrance.
Thomas Holodnik, 22126 Dean Court, is opposed to a Stevens Creek Blvd. entrance,
especially if it means altering the Stocktmeir property.
Allen Holzman, 23000 Stonebridge, asked how much had already been spent on the study
of the corridor parkland. Director Smith answered $60,000, which was mostly in kit
production.
John Buenz, 22115 Dean Court, member of the Stevens Creek Trail Task Force, is
opposed to relocating the entrance to Blackberry Farm to Stevens Creek Blvd. He is in
favor of developing a natural environment with a passive recreational use.
Dale Compton, 22123 Stocklmeir Court, spoke against moving the entrance to Stevens
Creek Blvd. Wants to see the Stocklmeir property used in an historical manner. He
believes that an entrance on Stevens Creek Blvd. would be dangerous. He urged the
commission to get the public more involved in the process.
Director Smith commented that once the park elements are nailed down, such as a golf
course, a history center, or whatever those elements are, there will be a full evaluation of
the parkland.
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Deborah Jamison, 21346 Rumford Drive, spoke in favor of keeping the Santa Clara
Valley Water District land as part of McClellan Ranch Park, keeping the golf course, and
reducing the corporate picnic area.
Greg Schaffer, 10190 Byerly Court, wants to know where the Stevens Creek trail will
lay. He likes the idea of a soft trail and a crashed granite trail. He is interested in a
variable riparian setback.
Frank Yap, 11032 Firethorne Drive, spoke in favor of activity zones. His three goals for
the parkland are: maximize the appeal, preserve the rich heritage, and provide resources
of revenue to the city. He likes the idea of eliminating the golf course and putting in a
driving range.
Joyce Eden, lives near Hwy. 85 and 280, is in favor of a walking trail. She does not want
bicycles in the corridor. She does not believe that the business of the city is revenue
generation. She would like to see an Ohlone Indian designation in the parkland. Supports
a variable 100-150 feet setback. She's opposed to a Stevens Creek Blvd. entrance. She is
supportive of year-round use by reducing corporate picnics to reduce traffic.
Jill Halloran, 10780 Alderbrook Lane, is in favor of reducing or eliminating the golf
course due to the herbicides and pesticides that are used. She is in favor of a dog park, but
not near the creek.
Dick Thompson, 22106 Dean Court, is in favor of a greenbelt environment and
establishing a resident corridor. He supports the idea of keeping the current entrance on
San Femando and removing the group picnic areas completely. He would support a series
of walking trails that would connect McClellan Ranch and Blackberry Farm with
benched areas near the creek. He sees a retreat center being built on the Simms property.
He would like to maintain the golf course. He opposes any vehicular traffic or a dog park
on the Stocklmeir property.
Director Smith announced that the commission will be reviewing all the visions, written
submittals, and submitted testimony. Each commissioner will then select five elements or
five visions that most closely reflect what they have heard as consensus items. The
commission will turn those in to City Hall by Thursday, July 17. Those items will be
drafted into a uniform vision that can be presented to the public at the August 7 meeting.
Commission Comments
Commissioner Jelinch commented that the park plan cannot be all things to all people and
that the land has historical character. He is guided by revenue activities and sources to
finance this plan. He would like to see things done in the park in the next few years that
can be done with funding from the state and federal governments and volunteers. He
believes setbacks should be placed at a minimum, and does not agree with the idea that
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there needs to be 50 or 100 feet setbacks. He believes that setbacks should be different in
different areas of the park - some places should even be five to 15 feet. He strongly
supports restoration of the creek, and stated that if funding is received, this should
become a top priority. As for year-round use of the park, he completely supports this
goal. He supports moderately cutting down the size of the picnic grounds to maintain its
historical company picnic grounds flavor and for the city to continue getting revenue
from the park. He does not support the idea of changing the entry to Stevens Creek
Boulevard because it might result in traffic and safety problems. He believes it would
mean paving over part of the park, which he is not in favor of doing. He would like to
keep the golf course like it is. He supports moderate changes to the park.
Commissioner Wang supports minimum and variable setbacks. She is pleased them are '
opportunities for grants to do the creek restoration. She supports keeping the golf course.
She supports adding a historical center as a year-round facility. She would like to see a
permanent skate park at the park. She would like to see the parking area reduced and the
picnic grounds reduced and redesigned. She would like to see further study on the
entrance on Stevens Creek Blvd.
Commissioner Peng thanked the community for coming together in groups. He stated he
would not give his position at that time. He did express his thoughts: creek be a main
feature with related activities, he would like to understand about the safety concerns and
issues of moving the entrance, he is not convinced about a fixed 50 to 100 feet setback,
he likes the idea of a year-round living history center.
Vice Chair Brown stated that he has been encouraged by the interest and commitment of
groups coming together to work on visions. He does not think expensive ideas should be
discarded; the current financial environment will change. He sees the commission's goal
as setting a long-term plan. He sees the first priority should be the residents, and the
community survey showed that our residents don't use the golf course. He also
acknowledged that many non-residents have a strong interest in keeping the golf course,
and sees further review of whether or to keep the golf course necessary. The next priority
is the creek preservation. Another consideration is to identify other facilities that could
meet the needs within our community, such as golf, skate park, gymnasium. The
commission should look at the community as a whole and where those things can be met.
Specifically, he believes the setback should be variable and a trail use should be able to
be accommodated within the setback. He supports year-round use of the park, with the
question still remaining as to what kind of use. He supports the eventual elimination of
the corporate picnic area. He believes that by eliminating the corporate picnic grounds,
the need to move the entrance largely goes away. He would like to see more information
on how much traffic the swimming pools generate before making the decision to move
the entrance.
Chairperson Bradford answered Mr. Robertson's inquiring about a cost benefit analysis
in that this part of the visioning process did not have a cost component in it; professionals
will perform the cost analysis. She responded to Mr. Buenz's comment that some of the
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proposals in the 108 submitted visions were inconsistent with the goals of the Stevens
Creek Trail Task Force, as well as some of the goals for the City Council. She explained
that this was true, but the vision process did not limit people's input to just conforming to
the City Council goals. To answer Mr. Compton's concern about the process, she stated
that the commission is trying to narrow the visions down, and once that happens, more
detailed conversations will occur. In response to Mr. Schaffer's comment about arbitrary
setbacks, she stated that the setbacks were arbitrary and not a recommendation. The
setback demonstration was a point of reference for the commission and residents to
physically look at the property and get some sense of what 50 and 100 feet would be like
as a starting point for discussion. She agreed with Mr. Yap's comment about
compromise--the process is all about compromise; it's not about everyone getting 100
percent of what they want. Chairperson Bradford is impressed with the people that have
worked on this collaboration. In response to Ms. Eden, the commission and the City
Council had majority rulings and approval that the Stevens Creek Trail would be a part of
the corridor and that it would be a multi-use trail. The layout of this trail has not been
determined.
Regarding the goals of the meeting, Chairperson Bradford believes that creek restoration
is a number one priority, as well as getting funding to accomplish this goal. She would
like to address building restoration as a high priority. She believes that 50 and 100 feet
setbacks may not be the appropriate standard; there might be areas where 50 feet would
work, but that is not as high of a priority as doing restoration within the creek. She
supports year-round use for low-impact activities, such as McClellan Ranch, trails,
golfing, and picnicking. She does not support the corporate picnic grounds because she
believes there are more thoughtful and creative uses for the land. She would like to get
rid of the huge parking lot. She sees leaving the entrance on San Femando, but
significantly reducing the parking area. She sees enlarging the parking area at Stevens
Creeks Blvd. to allow a second option to get into the park. She does not support a road
going from Stevens Creek down to Blackberry Farm. She supports the golf course
remaining.
The proposed agenda for August will depend on the commission's submittals of July 17.
For the September meeting, the agenda most likely will be fine-tuning of visions and the
financial overlay.
5. NEW BUSINESS - None
MISCELLANOUS - NO ACTION REQUIRED
A. Staff oral reports:
1) 4tl~ of July morning events went very well. The Optimists sold more
pancake breakfasts than ever before. The parade was well attended. Pam
Fury, Whispering Creek Stables, brought her horse and dressed up as
Yankee Doodle; this new feature was very popular.
B. Community contacts:
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1)
Chairperson Bradford announced that she has received a great deal of
email around the Sports Center issues regarding tennis reservations, and
she has received a great deal of email regarding the Stevens Creek
Corridor. She met with the Toys per their request and talked with others
on the tennis court reservation policy.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Bradford adjoumed the meeting at 9:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Marie Preston, Administrative Secretary
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Minutes approved at the August 7, 2003, regular meeting.