P&R 03-06-03 APPROVED
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
CITY OF CUPERTiNO
REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETiNG
THURSDAY, MARCH 6, 2003
CALL TO ORDER
Chairperson Bradford called the regular adjourned meeting of the Parks and Recreation
Commission to order at 6 p.m., in conference room A.
ROLLCALL
Commissioners present:
Jeanne Bradford, Rod Brown, Frank Jelinch, Roger Peng, Kris
Wang (Wang arrived at 6:15)
Commissioners absent: None
Staff present:
David Knapp, City Manager; Marie Preston, Administrative
Secretary
1. PRESENTATIONS - City Manager David Knapp on role of commissions
Dave explained that he had been assigned by the City Council to go and talk to the
various commissions and examine how the city's process works and if there were any
ways to fine-tune that process. He gave as an example of fine-tuning the process as
providing a commissioner's handbook. He asked that they chat with him on three items:
commission goals, commission work program, and observations.
Commissioner Jelinch stated a way to be more affective is to go the state conference
where the State Association of Parks and Recreation Commissioners gives courses about
how to be a more affective commissioner, they also have a handbook. He stated that this
was the only organization he knew of that provided commissioner training.
Commissioner Bradford agreed that training would be useful and gave an example of a
Brown Act conference in Milpitas she attended a couple of years ago that provided
salient information.
Commissioner Brown stated that training, such as the "best practices" course he received
at a parks conference last year, could be useful in providing commissioner training that is
specific to Cupertino and its programs. He also suggested periodically reviewing the
material with other commissioners.
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Commissioner Jelinch agreed that the city could provide training that includes all the
commissioners.
Commissioner Bradford thought there might be other opportunities for commissions to
work more closely together. She gave an example of the Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting with the Teen Commission. She stated that there might be
opportunities for the Parks and Recreation Commission to work with Bicycle and Safety
on projects. She believes there are projects going on in the city that cut across the
interests of different commissions, and they should look at ways to work together. She
gave an example of a resident's request for a dog park; this request might provide an
opportunity for the Parks and Recreation Commission to work with others on the
planning process.
Commissioner Peng said he is interested in building community unity and the
neighborhood watch program. He believes that there has been good verbal
communication between the commission and the city's staff, but he would like to see
more communication amongst commissioners. He asked, "Who are the other eight
commissions?" He looks at the mayor's monthly tea as an excellent opportunity to meet
other commissions. He would like to see this avenue of communicating with other
commissions strengthened.
Commissioner Brown stated that he sees the usefulness of a more formal goals process.
He doesn't see that process at the commission level. He believes it would be a good idea
to take the City Council's goals and come up with more details on specific actions that
the commission could work to develop in the coming year. He also suggested that there
might be a way they could give input to the City Council's goals as well.
Commissioner Bradford agreed with Commission Brown because it would provide a way
to measure their success. This process could also provide clarity of goals for the
commission to accomplish. She stated that it wasn't the end result that would be
important, as much as going through the process.
Dave suggested that perhaps early in a commission's year that a conversation happen
about goals for the coming year. Commissioner Bradford agreed; she sees a format in the
shape of a study session, not necessarily a regular commission meeting, where the public
would come and listen in. Perhaps in reviewing program cuts, if things come to that,
forwarding input from the community to the City Council is also important, but may not
necessarily be on a goals list.
Commissioner Peng stated that he was pleased that they were being given this
opportunity to express their opinions regarding the process. He admitted to not always
fully understanding the objectives of the commission.
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Dave answered that many times the commission could be the catalyst, as well as the
lightening rod, for when issues arise. He stated that the cormnission performs a valuable
function in working the issues before sending it on to the City Council.
Commissioner Brown believes that if the commission had been given City Council's
goals for a renovated Sports Center before they went through the process, a lot of time
and effort could have been saved. He sometimes asks himself how they could have gone
through the process better to be more effective.
Commissioner Bradford stated that an improved process was the joint session with the
City Council regarding the Stevens Creek Corridor that made sure that all were aligned.
The commission understood what the Council's goals were before the process got started.
Commissioner Jelinch stated that a commission should have its own power to advise the
City Council, not the power to approve. The commission should not feel they haven't
done their job if the Council does not approve of their recommendation. He also stated
that it would be OK for the commission to do some lobbying.
Commissioner Brown would like to see the commission take more initiative instead of a
reactive role when it comes to information received from staff.
Commissioner Wang agreed that she would like to see the commission become more
proactive on topics. She would like to see the commission be more efficient. She would
like to see more teamwork with other commissions on related projects - cross-knowledge
sharing. She would like to see a high-tech commission developed that would work with
local businesses.
Commissioner Bradford added as another goal that the commission should review, at
least once a year, the areas that are underserved. She is impressed with the breadth of
classes that are offered and the growth of the senior center, but she would like to take a
yearly "check in" to see if there are other oppommities to serve more areas of the city.
Commissioner Brown agreed and added that there needs to be more conversation about
looking for opportunities to add parks in the underserved areas.
Dave reported that there is a small pocket of land north of the about-to-be-opened trail
next to Saratoga Creek that the county owns, and that dialogue will begin soon about
turning this parcel over to the city, and with the plan to turn it into a park. This may take
a lobbying effort that will last two to three years. The parcel will help to serve the biggest
underserved population, which is the east side of town.
Dave also reported that he has heard nothing but good comments about the work of the
Parks and Recreation Commission and the advice offered the City Council. He believes
that televising of the meetings was a great move forward for communicating with the
community. He also mentioned that looking at the schedule of classes, the staff is doing
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an excellent job in providing services; considering the size of the city, the programming
schedule is a phenomenal effort. He thanked the commission for their time and input.
Public Comments
Robert Levy, 10802 Wilkinson Avenue, and member of the Bicycle/Pedestrian
Commission, spoke in favor of projects that may be appropriate for Parks and Recreation
Commission to take over. Believes there may be opportunities for both commissions to
work together.
AJOURN FOR RECESS
At 6:25 p.m., Commissioner Bradford adjourned the meeting for a short recess.
CALL TO ORDER
Following a recess, Chairperson Bradford called the continued regular adjourned meeting of the
Parks and Recreation Commission to order at 7:08 p.m. in the City Council Chambers.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners present:
Jeanne Bradford, Rod Brown, Frank Jelinch, Roger Peng, Kris
Wang
Commissioners absent: None
Staff Present:
Therese Ambrosi Smith, Director; Marie Preston, Administrative
Secretary
Others Present:
David Fox, architect
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
Minutes of February 6, 2003, were unanimously approved as written.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
A. Tony and Grace Toy, 10130 Crescent Road, spoke on team tennis at the
Cupertino Sports Center and the issues they see as unfair to non-team tennis pass
holders of the Sports Center.
Commissioner Bradford stated for those who were familiar with the issue that the
commission had discussed the policy issues at the November meeting and, at that time,
the commission made a commitment that when the construction work gets closer to the
re-opening of the Sports Center, there will be many policy issues that they will need to
review including those brought forward by the Toys. She thanked the Toys for doing
research on other models they felt worked well, and stated that they will be involved in
the process when the commission gets to the point of implementing broad t~olicies that
need to be implemented upon re-opening.
4. WRITTEN - None
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UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A. Stevens Creek Corridor Master Plan Proiect: Therese introduced a 30-second
video that communicated that everyone has a unique vision. She then discussed
some of the questions people have been asking and also explained that a
Frequently Asked Questions feature will be placed on the city's website. She
stated that the entries will be made available to City Council and the public for
review prior to May 12 - the format for public review, though, has yet to be
decided. She stressed that the kits are made for the average person and there are
no expectations that people putting in visions are engineers or architects. She
played a video showing a tour of the project area and an instruction video on how
to use the kits. Therese then turned over the presentation to David Fox, landscape
architect, who provided direction and insight on how to get started in the design
process
Commission Comments:
Commissioner Jelinch reminded people that they don't have to design the whole
complex; they can pick the interest they want.
Commissioner Wang thanked staff for the great job putting the kits together.
Commissioner Brown asked the people to walk through the site to see what's there.
Commissioner Peng stated his excitement at the project and is looking forward to seeing
the entries.
Commissioner Bradford encouraged people to collaborate with others.
Public Comments:
Bill Walster, 22116 Dean Court, commended the staff and commission on the hard work
putting the kits together and stated this will give many people the opportunity to give
meaningful input to the commission and the City Council. He is concerned that the goals
are stated as the City Council's goals, and he would have thought that they would have
been addressed as the citizen's goals. He also believed that directing people to use the
goals was blunt and implied that if you don't agree with the goals that somehow your
design will not be considered. He would like that clarified. He believes that a multi-use
trail is really a road.
Therese reported that his concerns will be clarified on the Frequently Asked Questions
on the website that it is not essential to meet the Council's goals. She also stated that
although the goals were the Council's, they agreed to look at every single vision.
Deborah Jamison, 21346 Rumford Drive, stated she was upset that the current policies
governing McClellan Ranch were not in the packet. She also had questions about touring
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the Stocklmeir house, and noted that the 4-H membership is higher than listed in the kit
material.
Therese stated that the regulations will be put up on the website. The Stocklmeir house
cannot be viewed because it is currently rented but the house is discussed on one of the
videos. As far as the 4-H information being outdated that is because the presentations
were given a year ago, and it is a snapshot in time at that point.
Kelly Crowley, 22221 McClellan Ranch, works for the Santa Clara Valley Audubon
Society, commended the materials in the kit. She echoed the concern of including the 25
uses of McClellan Ranch in the information. She welcomed others to work with them on
a joint vision.
Sharon Blaine, De Anza Circle, congratulated the staff on their effort in putting the kit
together. She is concerned about a property not owned by the city. Can she incorporate in
her vision that some day the city would purchase that property that is adjacent to the
creek and the parking lot at Blackberry?
Therese stated that she could incorporate that idea into her vision.
Pat Showalter, Santa Clara Valley Water District, reported that the Stevens Creek is a
valuable natural resource with Steelhead and Santa Clara Valley Water District fully
supports the visioning process. She stated that she would be available to take questions
from any of the project participants.
Janet Van Zoeren, 1105 Milky Way, stated her curiosity if those items that couldn't be
changed are noted in the kit? Will there be a fee to enter Blackberry Farm if she wants to
take a look around?
McClellan Ranch his open and it is free; Blackberry Farm is not open at this time, but
she should feel free to enter the park and walk around- she will not be charged Therese
also stated that on the design sheet, there are the footprints of historic buildings that have
been there and the instructions note those things that should not be moved or changed
Rusty Britt, 20850 Pepper Tree Lane, is concerned that all their work will be for nothing
and that ideas will be pushed aside by the City Council, that the park master plan is
already a done deal - she asked for reassurance.
Therese stated that the City Council was sincere in the goals they set up.
Ned Britt, 20850 Pepper Tree Lane, asked who owns Deep Cliff Golf Course and are
there any plans to play in the creek or is it polluted?
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Therese responded that Deep Cliff is privately owned and there are no plans to
coordinate the master plan with that business. As for the creek, she asked that they check
out the site analysis video for answers about the creek.
Ed Donnelly, 7551 Normandy Way, stated that the city has done a great job over the
years saving a lot of open space. He asked if there was any thought as to how this
parkland would tie to Fremont Older or Linda Vista, etc.?
Commissioner Bradford answered that there had been some work prior to this project
with the Stevens Creek Trail, which included a trail alignment through the parkland; this
information is on the city's website.
Joyce Eden, 10213 Lockwood Drive, asked if there are going to be surveys on the land,
plants and animals, hydrology, etc., would like to know what the criteria was for
choosing the setback from the creek, what that setback is, and if the biologist's report is
available? She stated she would like the full reports of items instead of the executive
reports on the website. She would like to see the 25 uses for McClellan Ranch available.
Commissioner Bradford stated that most of her concerns were addressed in the video
material in the kit. The items that are in executive summary in the Mt are available in
their full form on the website.
Bob McLoskey, 21530 Rainbow Drive, asked about the low use by residents of the
parkland and asked if the city was happy with those numbers/percentages?
Therese responded that the city is not happy with the low resident use because everyone
is paying for the park. Approximately 8 to l O percent of the residents use the Blackberry
Farm picnic facilities; the golf course has a 20 percent resident use, which is based on
reservations.
Bob Levy, 10802 Wilkinson Avenue, offered to provide tours of the parkland. He has
strong concerns that nowhere in the kit is it stated that if no changes are wanted to the
parkland then that is also an option.
Mark Adams, 11611 Upland Way, asked if the Council was looking at increased outside
community use or inside Cupertino community use? Does the Council care about the
profit-making aspects of some of the properties? He commended staff on the great job of
putting the kits together.
Therese responded that the City Council is looking for increased Cupertino community
usage where one would see neighbors. Therese answered that the Council does care
about the profit of the properties; revenue generation is not the primary reason the
Council bought the property; they bought it to preserve it for community park use/open
space.
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David Fox, 114 Massel Ave., Los Gatos, encouraged residents to go out to the sites with
paper, camera, tape recorder, and a companion to bounce ideas off of.
Therese reported that many items brought up during public comments will be placed on
the website by the following week.
6. NEW BUSiNESS - None
MISCELLANEOUS - NO ACTION REQUIRED
A. Staff Oral Reports:
(1) Therese reported there would be a Cupertino High School neighborhood
meeting regarding the 4th of July fireworks display on March 31, 7 p.m., at
the Quinlan Community Center
Community Contacts:
(I) Commissioner Jelinch reminded interested parties to attend the annual
California Parks and Recreation Society Training Conference
(2) Commissioner Wang invited the community to attend the Cupertino Lunar
New Year Unity Parade on Saturday, March 8
ADJOURNMENT
Chairperson Bradford adjourned the meeting at approximately 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
Marine Preston, Administrative Secretary
Minutes approved at the May 1, 2003, regular meeting.