P&R 12-01-94CITY OF CUPERTINO~ STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA 95014
Telephone (408) 777-3200
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
City Hall
December 1, 1994
CALL TO ORDER
1. Regular meeting of the Parks and Recreation Commission called to order at 7:00 p.m.
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
2.
ROLL CALL
3. Commissioners present:
Commissioners absent:
Staff present:
Hendrickson, Lohmiller, Hopkins, Buhler, Quinlan
Stephen Dowling, Director of Parks and Recreation
Linda Lagergren, Recording Secretary
INTRODUCTIONS
4. None.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
5. None
OLD BUSINESS
6. None
NEW BUSINESS
7. Director introduced two members of the Mid-Peninsula Open Space District, Craig Britton, General
Manager and Malcolm Smith, Public Affairs Manager, who presented to Commission an overview of
general information and an orientation of the facilities and the services that the District provides.
No action was required by staff.
Chris Copeland, 11077 Linda Vista Drive. Chris Copeland commented that Montebello Ridge is one
his and his wife's favorite places to hike. He stated that there is no legal place to park and if they could
put in a little gravel parking lot, they would get alot more people from Cupertino coming up there.
Craig Britton said that in another year or so they hope to have a parking lot up there.
Commissioner Buhler said "I am a regular user of Rancho San Antonio. I have observed all of the
improvements that you have made over there and I think it is just a fabulous recreational facility. I
complement you on the job that you have done."
Commissioners Quinlan, Hopkins and Hendrickson all stepped down at this time because of a potential
conflict of interest with this agenda item. (Commissioners Quinlan and Hopkins are YMCA board
members and Chairman Hendrickson lives within 300 feet of one of the potential sites.) Commissioner
Lohmiller served as Chair during this discussion.
Approved
1/5/95
Call to order
Salute to
Flag
Roll Call
Presentation
by Mid-
Peninsula
Open Space
District
Chris
Copeland
11077 Linda
Vista Drive
Consider-
ation of a
Ropes
Course
installation
at Linda
Vista or
McClellan
Ranch
Director said, "The issue before the Commission this evening is the consideration of two possible
locations for the ropes course, one of which would Linda Vista Park and the other would be the Simms
portion of the McClellan Ranch park. Commission will recall that earlier in the Fall you had heard a
proposal to install a challenge ropes course at McClellan Ranch Park and the consensus and direction
from the Commission was that that was not an appropriate site and to go look for some alternatives.
The consortium has done that and they are here before you tonight with two opportunities." Director
Dowling introduced Rich Knapp who presented the two options.
Rich Knapp gave an overview of what a ropes course is all about. He described that a ropes course
consists of a series of low events (3-5 feet off the ground), a high course, the wall, and a debriefing
wrap-up discussion. He stated that these are very controlled events. "The target group focuses primarily
on teenagers, starting with the junior high school age group and moving up through the high school age
group. This is one segment of our population that we are very concerned about because there doesn't
seem to be alot of opportunities either recreational or educational that provide kids an opportunity to
participate in positive events and programs which will allow them to grow and develop leadership
skills and to learn how to work with others. This is why I feel this program is so important. The
objectives of this program are to give kids an opportunity to challenge themselves so that they can
grow in terms of their confidence, their sense of self-worth, their ability to work in a group situation, to
develop problem solving skills, and to develop leadership skills."
Liz Gallegos, Executive Director Northwest YMCA. Liz stated, "I would like to speak about what a
rich collaborative opportunity this venture presents. We all know and agree that in today's world we
need to work smart and use our resources wisely. I get really excited at the possibility of this project
because of the variety of the different organizations that can work more closely together: schools, city,
non-profit community service agencies, businesses, and service clubs, all joining together to make a
positive difference in the quality of life for young people in our community."
Barry Tank, Insurance Broker for Santa Clara Valley YMCA. "When you look at this program you
think that it must be an insurance risk. In San Mateo County this program was activated and I was
asked to go to the course and evaluate it. I spent a couple of days watching the procedures. I was quite
impressed about the safety measures that were provided and the supervision that was involved. I was
also impressed by the student who were participating in the ropes course. I also had the opportunity to
go over to Alum Rock and view that ropes course for the Milpitas Unified School District, and I found
that course to be equally creative and safety conscious. There are certain risks in all types of events
and this present some unusual risks, however after reviewing the statistical information, I concur with
the study. We found that in San Mateo there have only been about three claims over a twelve year
period. All three claims involved spotters and two of them had to do with broken fingers and another
had to do with a sprained leg. There have been no incidents of any serious losses or injuries by their
participants over the time."
David Tsui, resident of Cupertino (8069 Hyannisport). "I work at National Semiconductor, in human
resources. I had the opportunity to go through the ropes course about three months ago. It is an
experience I would like to share as a potential application for the local businesses. The ropes course
does for the total quality profession build self-confidence, builds self-environmental awareness, builds
trust, builds teams."
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Consider-
ation of a
Ropes
installation
tt LiMa
Vistat or
McClellan
Ranch
Rich Knapp
Liz Oallegos
Bany Tank
David Tsui
8069
Hyannisport
Betsy Lamb, 10381 Orange. "I'm here to represent Tandem Computers but I am also a resident of
Cupertino. I've been asked by Tandem to come and talk about and represent their commitment to this
project. My role at Tandem is director of human resources and after going on the ropes course in Alum
Rock I came back to Tandem very excited about the workplace application. At Tandem we are always
looking at ways to develop that next work force of the future. We are concerned about issues like
diversity and leadership in general, and a ropes course certainly tackles those kinds of things. I looked
at this as a solution, because we are actually looking at out-of-state resources to come in and provide
rope course activity. In terms of the environmental concerns, I actually noted those when we were at the
Alum Rock course. Teaching awareness for adults and children about their responsibility in protecting
the environment is a positive aspect of the whole ropes course activity. On behalf of Tandem, I am a
strong supporter and Tandem is anxious to play a part with financial resources, if that is necessary,
getting some management teams to participate, and on a personal note, I am anxious to see it as a
chance to help develop our youth and teach them to take care of Cupertino the way that we all do."
Rich Knapp said, "As stated in the proposal, when we talk about collaboration with corporations, what
we would look at providing them with an opportunity to use the course and through their use of the
course raise money to actually build and maintain the course so that either the city of Cupertino or the
YMCA would accrue costs of maintaining or building the course, and at the same time we would
provide service to industries. I think it's a wonderful opportunity to develop a true partnership."
Rich Knapp presented the course at the Linda Vista site. "Linda Vista has some positives, but it has
some limitations. The positives are that it has an excellent staging area. Because of the limited space
and the limitations of the terrain, it requires us to configure the course in a way that is limiting. The top
area is too steep and it can't be used. The way we developed this proposal is that we brought in Scott
Garman, from Project Adventure, out of Portland, who builds courses. We flew him down and had him
look at parks in Cupertino. We had him address the two parks that we thought had the greatest
potential. We looked at the lower area. The high course would be a string of telephone poles. The low
course would be very limited. This area has some drainage problems. It's possible to build a course
here, the course can't be expanded and it does have limitations."
Commissioner Lohmiller asked "How many poles would you be putting in?" Rich Knapp said, "Six to
seven." Rich Knapp added, "To put the high course in here is more costly, then to put it in the other
location."
Rich presented the course at McClellan Ranch Park. "This is on the Simms property. It is in the front
area, in front of the house between the road that leads to the house and McClellan Road. There are
some trees along the fence line. In this area it is possible to put a great many more events than at the
other course, and it would affect less area. The high course would parallel McClellan Road. The
advantages of having it at this site is that it is all contained in one area. It is very easy to supervise. You
can have more than one event being used at one time and it is easier to supervise than the course at
Linda Vista. Another advantage at McClellan Ranch is the line of vision at this site is sheltered. There
is parking and storage close. The only issue at this site is that we would need to put chips down to keep
the dust down. We did visit other sites in the city. These two sites were the best available, so we
developed our proposal around them."
Commissioner Lohmiller added, "Commissioner Buhler and I have toured both sites and we are very
familiar with both of them."
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Betsy Lamb
10381
Orange
Tandem
Computers
Rich Knapp
Linda
Vista park
McClellan
Ranch park
Director Dowling said, "Your objective this evening is to, if appropriate, recommend the program to
the city council and the second part of that recommendation should include a preferred site. I would
like to remind you that McClellan Ranch Task Force has gone on record that they object to the location
of a ropes challenge course anywhere on the McClellan Ranch site, which would include the Simms
portion. Should city council adopt the concept and select the site, the collaborative would be asked to
come back with a specific plan, that would be presented to commission and then to city council, once
this conceptual plan and location has been adopted."
Commissioner Buhler asked staff, "When this concept was discussed before the Task Force, the
proposal was in a different location in the park. Was this specific alternative discussed with the Task
Force?"
Director Dowling said, "It was discussed in concept following the last commission meeting where the
prior site was rejected. The Task Force felt that there was no place on the site that was consistent with
the Master Plan and that they could support."
Chris Copeland, 11077 Linda Vista Avenue Cupt. "The issue is, "not in my backyard." Linda Vista is in
my backyard and it forms one of the boundaries of Linda Vista Park. The reason my wife and I are
concerned about it is that there is already a significant problem with people being in the park after
hours. The city obviously has a problem keeping people out of Linda Vista Park after hours. This would
clearly just make it worse. The ropes course sounds like a great idea but Linda Vista park does not
seem like a good place for it."
Sue Copeland, 11077 Linda Vista Avenue Cupt. "The ropes course sounds like a wonderful idea." Sue
Copeland read a letter into the record from their neighbors: Robert and Jennifer de Neve, 11105 Linda
Vista Drive. The de Neve's were against locating the ropes course at Linda Vista Park, but in favor of
having it at McClellan Ranch park.
Susan Tweetmeir, 10365 Mary Avenue, Cupt. "I am a resident of Cupertino and a program director of
"Tomorrows Leaders Today" program. Our program is about youth leadership in the community. The
ropes course has become an integral part of our curriculum." Sharon shared comments from students
who went on previous ropes course. "As a resident of Cupertino, I would be proud to have the ropes
course in our city and I would strongly encourage you to seize this opportunity."
Debbie Jamison, Rumford Drive, Cupt. "I am a resident and I was a member of the McClellan Ranch
Ad Hoc Committee to write the master plan for McClellan Ranch. I felt the spirit of Nancy Hertert
urging me to be here tonight to defend McClellan Ranch park against inappropriate uses. I don't think
anyone in this room or in this community has a single negative thing to say about the worthy goals of
the ropes course. I think the ropes course is a wonderful program for both youth and adults. I think the
ropes course would have an impact on environmental programs. You need to stop what you are doing
and explain to kids who are there for different purposes what all this apparatus is. The question whether
to put a ropes course at McClellan Ranch park is clearly answered in the Master Plan document."
Debbie reviewed the mission statement of the master plan. "The Simms property is a part of McClellan
Ranch park. The ropes program certainly does have some aspects of environmental education, but
fundamentally it is not an environmental education program. My objections would not be nearly so
strong should a group want to rent the facilities or use the property, but then leave the property as they
found it. But in this case we are talking about a program that has some not so easy to ignore structures,
that are permanently installed on the property. To permanently install these structures that have nothing
to do with preserving or enhancing the park's historical or ecological values are completely in violation
of the mission statement and the master plan. I would like to see this program in our area as well. I
think two areas that are far more appropriate are the two county parks. I hope that this group finds an
appropriate spot, I know that McClellan Ranch park is not it. I urge you to reject the idea of putting a
ropes course at McClellan Ranch park."
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Ropes
Course
Chris
Copeland
Sue
Copeland
Susan
Tweetmeir
Debbie
Jamison
Karen Roman, Program Director with Tomorrow's Leaders Today. "I had the opportunity to go on the
course. I would like to speak about the question of the environmental concerns. The expectations for
behavior with the students are made clear and reinforced. The activities are focused. There is not time
to be destructive to the surroundings. The celebration happened with hugs or pats on the back, not
hooting or hollering. At the end of one exercise we looked up to see a deer looking at us, so obviously
our behavior was not as disruptive even to the local wildlife. The environment encouraged this subdued
behavior by the group. I realize there is an impact on the environment with the poles, but I think this is
minimal especially when you relate the benefits you receive from this course."
Rich Knapp said, "I understand the sensitivity of McClellan Ranch park. I have a deep sense of the
value of McClellan Ranch park. I also understand the limited area we are left with and our need to look
at multiple uses. When I look at the master plan and I look at the use and the opportunities that we have
to get students into that and develop a sensitivity and develop an attitude and develop an appreciation
for that, I just don't see it happening, I just don't see us getting kids out there. I know that the master
plan was developed with great intent to protect the area. But if we are going to protect it then we need
to develop the attitudes and values in the young people to make use of it. They can't develop those
attitudes sitting in a classroom. We can develop multiple uses. Right now that preserve is impacted
much more, by being next to Blackberry Farm then it would ever be by having a ropes course on the
edge of it."
Howard Johnson 22560 Alcalde Ave. Cupt. "When I heard that McClellan Ranch was going to be
considered for a site, I was outraged. This decision is not a Linda Vista or McClellan, this decision is
Linda Vista or other or none at all. What is so important at McClellan Ranch that they can't get
somewhere else? I asked a retired park ranger at Stevens Creek park. He said the ropes course at Alum
Rock was essentially closed because of the environmental damage. I think we need to be a little careful
about the risk involved in this project."
Larry Curb, Principal Kennedy Junior High School. "I think you have to look at shared uses. It's a nice
facility at McClellan Ranch park. What we are proposing to put in there will have minimal impact on
the area. I think we will have much less impact on the deer by taking a few children in there then the
string of cars that goes passed there everyday. Everybody says there must be another place. The reason
that we have come to you and asked if this course could be put there is its accessibility. There is a
problem with transportation in the schools. If that is an area for just a few people to use, you need to
look at the future. We need to develop leaders. The kids that come offthis course have leadership skills
that many other kids won't have. And those kids will be the leaders who will help protect the
environment in the future. It has to be shared use. The use that is there right now is very limited for a
fairly few people. The impact will be minimal. I hope you consider that and look at the shared use and
recommend that city council hear this."
Liz Gallegos, YMCA. "We would encourage car-pooling from the YMCA's perspective. The course is
designed to take a maximum of 30 but will usually have 15-20 people. We are looking at school groups
coming in between 9am to 3pm. We were asked to look at the front end of the Simms property. As we
understood, the master plan, it wasn't as specifically designed for the front end of Simms property as it
was for the rest of the area. Going into the County areas, that puts my branch, the Northwest branch, its
a little out of our jurisdiction. I would then need to work with the whole YMCA. It is a whole different
span of communication and control and it really makes the course implementation a long way out. In
regards to Alum Rock, it was a 10 year agreement. I appreciate the time that volunteers and citizens
take in putting together master plans. A lot of time and energy goes into them. But I also know that
good plans need to be looked at from time to time and tested against their relevancy. We ask that you
look at that in respect to the front end of the Simms property."
Commissioner Buhler asked of Liz Gallegos, "You mentioned that there was a time limit on the Alum
Rock course. Is that something that you are suggesting be considered here? Liz said, "No I am not. I am
looking for this to be a long-term commitment for our community."
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Rope Course
(continued)
Karen
Roman
Howard
Johnson
Larry Curb
Howard Johnson, "In terms of the noise, how smart is it to add noise to it. The facility is not an athletic
facility, it is a nature and rural preserve. I see this project as an encroachment on this property. It is a
tough decision to say no, but I think it is one that needs to be said."
Mary Jane Coombs, student leader on the rope course. "One of the most important things I have seen as
a leader on the ropes course is that different groups are thrown together in a very hard situation. In the
high schools I see the same kids hanging out together. In the ropes course situation all these different
kids are thrown together. We have at-risk kids that come out to the ropes course. The ropes course has
such a positive impact on their lives. They become friends with people that they would never have
come in contact with and they become friends."
Commissioner Buhler asked, "When you appeared before the Commission last time, I think there was a
clear message from more than one member of the Commission that said, we need to raise the level of
activity in terms of considering other sites. Could you describe what steps you took to consider other
sites and which sites you looked at."
Rich Knapp said, "We intentionally are looking at forming a collaboration with the YMCA and the
school district and hopefully one of the cities within the area that is covered by the YMCA. We looked
at Cupertino because we felt that it offered the greatest opportunities for us. I visited almost all the
parks in the city that I thought were possible for building the course. Some of the sites that I visited
were sites that were recommended by people that were at the last meeting, including Varian. I spent
quite a bit of time walking and looking at it and it's nice and flat and you could put a course in there
and you would have 25 or 30 or 40 people here tonight talking about the visual barriers there. Some of
the parks we went to I realize there are soccer teams and baseball teams at these parks. You can't have
the guy lines coming down in that kind of situation because it is going to present a risk for kids. When
we met with the Task Force at McClellan Ranch park one of the places they asked us to look was over
at the Simms property, more specifically behind the house which we did look. It is oiled, pressed, and it
is like concrete. It is just not suitable because it is too small of an area. We were specifically told by a
member of that Task Force to look at that site. Out of all the locations we looked at, the Simms
property appears to be the one that offers the greatest opportunity to build on. Yes, we did consider the
environmental impact, that's why we spent $500 flying Scott in from Portland and allowing him to
spend time on the site."
Luis Buhler said, "I spent a fair amount of time going through the McClellan Ranch Park Master Plan
and I am not convinced that this use is totally inconsistent with what the goals and objectives are of the
plan. The plan talks about environmental leadership, environmental education, community partnerships,
and I think that a case could be made that this activity would fall under parts of the Master Plan. I think
that there is the potential of some environmental impact and so some mechanism to evaluate that if this
goes there, after a period of time, might be an appropriate consideration. I think that there has been a
very good search inside of Cupertino, but I'm not sure that the case has been made convincingly that
there isn't a possibility that could be solved with a little effort in another jurisdiction. So I straggle with
that a little bit."
Commissioner Lohmiller said, "I looked at the Linda Vista site and the proposed plan just wouldn't
work there. It is intrusive to the area. It would be objectionable to the neighbors in my opinion. I think
that it would detract from the park. I'm the one that started the objection of having this at McClellan
Ranch park to begin with, more so in the section of the park that was chosen before. It's certainly a
tranquil place where it was. I had hoped perhaps behind the Simms house would be available, it's
tucked back out of everybodys site. The front area I had some concern with from a public safety point
of view, but I think that could be addressed. Traffic going by there might find that an attraction to look
at. I think that this type of activity could co-exist there with some of the other programs in the park.
Personnally I think our teenage use need leadership, I think it's very important we do that. I think this
involves so many groups, it's a positive thing. And hopefully, it could involve the McClellan Ranch
community in some way. I think that it would be an extremely postive program for our community. I
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Howard
Johnson
Mary Jane
Coombs
don't think we have ever had an objection about the merits of this program. The problem was the
location. You have to upset something when you add something. I would be in favor of having it at
McClellan Ranch park. I've also looked at other sites. I have not found an acceptable alternative. I
would be inclined to approve the staff recommendation.
Commissioner Buhler said, "I am prepared to recommend that this go forward and that we ask the
proponents to develop a plan for the Simms property site. Things that I would look for when I review
that plan would be having a time in which it would be evaluated, like 10 years. I think that in the plan
looking at some specific ways in which the educational opportunities could be joined with the
educational opportunities that are talked about in the Master Plan. I think there is an opportunity here
that you are going to bring a different kind of student into contact with the environment then you are
currently getting now and I think that is an opportunity to meet the objectives of the Master Plan. Even
though I am recommending for this to go forward, that you do spend a little bit of time looking at an
altemative outside of our jurisdiction and see if that is a real possibility. But I too believe that this is a
very beneficial program and has tremendous amount of potential for kids and other groups in the
community. I want to see it go forward and I think this is the best alternative that we have been
presented with."
Commissioner Lohmiller moved and Commissioner Buhler seconded a motion that the Simms property
be utilized for the installtion of a challenge ropes course as proposed by the consortium with a final
specific plan to be approved by the commission and council. All in favor. Motion passed.
Director said, "This is a follow-up to the recommendation that this commission prepared at our
November 1 meeting regarding neighborhood parks relevant to the Heart of the City Specific Plan. You
will recall that after discussion, the consensus was that trying to locate a three-and-one-half acre
neighborhood park didn't seem to make a lot of sense. So consequently, your recommendation was that
a typical neighborhood park not be a component of the Heart of the City plan. The Planning staff
indicated that the Planning Commission agreed with that position, but did raise the issue, what about a
"pocket park?" Tonight we are asking you to provide some comment, input and insight into your
perspective relative to pocket parks." Director Dowling gave a textbook definition of a pocket park as
defined by N.R.P.A.. "What we need to do tonight is talk about the role of the mini or pocket parks
along Stevens Creek Boulevard and revisit our discussion."
Commissioner Hopkins asked, "The piece of land that is on the comer of De Anza Blvd. and Stevens
Creek Blvd. is just grass, what is the disposition of that land?
Director said, "As part of the Heart of the City plan, there is something more specific called out there. I
do not know what that is, but I do know that it is intended to be more in keeping with the tree theme
there is talk of some sort of orchard arrangement as a reference back to our heritage, that would allow a
place for people to sit and have some semblance of siting in an omhard."
Commissioner Hopkins added, "So there is a possibility that that land would not be built on." Director
safd, "That is a possibility." Commissioner Hopkins added, "So that could qualify as a mini park, in a
sense that it would be open space and used for passive activities. As I look at the map there is Memorial
Park at one end where people could go right off the Boulevard and there is Portal park which is fairly
close and there may end up being some open space around Tandem if they develop, they may leave
some open space there. So you may have a mini park there as well. Along the Boulevard, you seem to
have some candidates already for for passive use. So, I don't see a need for a mini park at all along the
Boulevard. Although I would encourage areas where benches, fountains, artwork and maybe a grassy
knoll."
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Ropes
Course
(continued)
Commissioner Quinlan said, "I kind of agree with what Bob said. I had pictured something like tying in
a curvalinear sidewalk with a bench and maybe a break in the tree line. That's the way I visualize it.
Just a suggestion, I know several of the cities have assessment districts for maintainance that is on-
going. If you are going to keep this in private ownership, or even in a public ownership arrangement,
you may want to consider that factor from an equity standpoint for the private element. I still think that
particular idea, a rest area that off-sets and brings in some landscape architecture to the theme would be
beneficial, not only to the visual but to people that would be walking along the streets."
Commissioner Buhler said, "Steve, you captured my feelings, when you talked about the pedestrian
experience and making sure that somehow that becomes a part of the design. That is really what I was
trying to express in the last meeting. I am really open to how that gets done."
Commissioner Lohmiller said, "Pocket parks, like neighborhood parks we all envision them differently.
I just don't think we have enough room for what I would call a pocket park. But I do think we have
room for little way sides. I have a problem with the definition of the pocket park, but I like the concept
that we talked about last time."
Farokh Deboo 10257 Nile Drive and member of CURB. "Another altemative for the comer of De Anza
Blvd. and Stevens Creek Blvd. is a wide expanse of retail. The new General Plan does call for a
tremendous amount of density. To match this density, I feel that we do need some pocket parks to
provide the balance and to provide some harmony. It should not be completely not considered. One of
the things I would like to see is a revision of Policy 5-47 that you have discussed from the General Plan
that calls out park minimum acreage. I feel that pocket parks in areas of high density, like City Center,
should be given higher priority. In policy statement 5-53, point #3 talks about park fees that should be
collected based on a formula which considers the extent to which the public and/or private park space
and facilities meet the park need. This appears to me a contradiction with a recent ordinance that has
come from your commission to planning commission and is going to go before city council. That is the
ordinance on the park fee credit. It calls out for a 50% credit or no credit. Pocket parks would allow city
council to have the discretion to have differing amounts of credit to meet different density needs along
Stevens Creek Blvd. One of the areas is City Center that has been showing up fairly often as a
candidate for open space. A lot of us have bought property in the area of the triangular plot hoping that
it would continue to be open space. We feel that that should be considered as one of the areas for
pocket parks. We do hope that your commission will consider a balance in areas of high density and
propose that pocket parks be considered in these areas of high density."
Commission reiterated to Mr. Deboo the reasons why they did not change the park dedication fee credit
from 50% to 25%.
Director stated, "I think what I heard a moment ago from Commission's discussion is that you did not
feel the need to provide the traditional pocket park or mini park areas along Stevens Creek Blvd.and
that it may not be feasible. You felt that you did support the linear park concept where there would be
passive rest-stop areas along Stevens Creek Blvd. Is that correct? Commission agreed.
Commission Quinlan said, "I don't picture this as being a huge area, certainly an acre or less. I
certainly don't consider this as a part of a consideration in lieu of Quimby fees. When I visualized this
mini-park, this quiet passive areas would remain in private ownership for maintenance." Director
added, "To accomplish that it would take an offer from a developer, as they were participating in the
renovation of the streetscape, if there were this suggestion, it would have to be something that they
offered to do."
Commission was in consensus that they continued to support the notion that, where feasible, quiet,
passive areas, pedestrian friendly will be encouraged along Stevens Creek Boulevard.
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"Pocket
)arks"
discussion
(continued)
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING
10. Approval of the minutes of the November 3 meeting will be continued to the next meeting.
11. Approval of the minutes of the November 28 meeting will be continued to the next meeting.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
12. Chairman Hendrickson reviewed a letter he received from Mavis Smith, a Deer Hollow Farm docent
member, requesting to come before the Commission to discuss the possibility of some support from the
City of Cupertino along with the City of Mountain View concerning Deer Hollow Farm. It was the
pleasure of the Commission to agendized this item for the January 5 meeting.
MONTHLY REPORTS
13. There was no monthly program report
14. There were no community contacts.
MISCELLANEOUS
15. There was no legislative update.
16. There was no Mayor's luncheon report.
17. Director reminded Commissioners of upcoming events - Breakfast with Santa, Saturday, December 3
and the Tree Lighting Ceremony, Sunday, December 4. We are currently accepting applications for 2
seat openings on the Parks and Recreation Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
18. Commissioner Lohmiller moved and Commissioner Buhler seconded the motion to adjourn at 9:54
p.m. to the regularly scheduled meeting of the Parks and Recreation Commission on Thursday, January
5 1995, 7:00 p.m. Council Chambers. All in favor. Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
ATTEST:
City Clerk
Chairperson
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Motion