PC 12-13-1993 CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue
Cupertino, CA. 95014
(408) 252 -4505
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR ADJOURNED MEETING OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION
HELD ON DECEMBER 13, 1993
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners Present: Chairwoman Austin
Vice Chairperson Mahoney
Commiss:Loner Doyle
Commissioner Roberts
Staff Present: Robert Cowan, Director of
I Community Development
Ciddy Wordell, City Planner
Thomas Robillard, Planner II
Michele Bjurman, Planner II
Chr. Austin read the regulations from the Brown Act regarding the
public addressing the Planning Commission
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
MOTION: Com. Mahoney moved to approve the minutes of November 22,
1993, as presented
SECOND: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Passed 3 -0 -1
ABSTAIN: Com. Austin
POSTPONEMENTS OR NEW AGENDA ITEMS:
Item 3: Applications 2- GPA -93. 3 -Z -93 and 14 -EA -93 - Cecil Mahon,
West side of Regnart ad. - Continued to the Planning
Commission Meeting of January 24, 1994.
Application 5 -TM -93 - Cecil Mahon, West side of Regnart
Rd. - Removed from Calendar
Item 7: Application 6- EXC -93 - Lotus Development & Constr. Inc.,
22661 San Juan Road - Continued to the Planning
Commission Meeting of January 10, 1994.
Item 8: Application 7- EXC -93 - Lotus Development & Constr. Inc.,
22801 San Juan Road - Continued to the Planning
Commission Meeting of January 10, 1994.
Item 9: Application 11 -U -93 and 10 -EA -93 - Fit & Healthy Spa,
21267 Stevens Creek Blvd. - Removed from Calendar.
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WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
No discussion
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
- None
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Application 4 -U -89 - Peninsula Bible Church: Request for a 7
month extension for construction of a 4,700 sq. ft. classroom.
MOTION: Com. Mahoney moved to approve the consent calendar.
SECOND: Com. Doyle 4 -0
VOTE: Passed
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW
2. Application No: 5- ASA -93
Applicant: Marie Callenders, #42
Property Owner: Byer Properties
Location: 20750 Stevens Creek Blvd.
Sign Exception for exposed neon.
Staff Presentation: Planner Robillard presented the staff report
noting the request is to place a monument sign with exposed neon in
front of the Marie Callenders. Planner Robillard stated the reason
this is an exception is that the designers of the sign ordinance
felt that exposed neon is appropriate in limited circumstances.
Signs using exposed neon should be reviewed by the Planning
Commission on a case by case basis. He noted staff recommends
approval according to the findings and conditions contained in the
model resolution.
In response to Commissioners questions, Planner Robillard stated
this particular sign uses minimal neon and also noted that the size
of the sign meets the requirements.
MOTION: Com. Mahoney moved to approve 5- ASA -93 subject to the
findings and subconclusions of the hearing.
SECOND: Com. Doyle 4 -0
VOTE: Passed
The Commissioned discussed moving item 10 up on the agenda. The
consensus was to place item 10 after item 4.
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PUBLIC HEARINGS:
4. Application No(s): 13 -U -93 and 3- EXC -93 and 15 -EA -93
Applicant.: Deep Cliff
Property Owner: Hubback
Location: McClellan /Foothill
USE PERMIT for master development plan, including tree
planting and removal, teaching center, practice green, patio
cover and lighting.
EXCEPTION request to allow and off -site sign in accordance
with Section 17.20.10 of the Municipal Code.
As three of the four Commissioners live within 500 ft. of the
property under discussion, only one must abstain in order to
maintain a quorum. After drawing straws Com. Roberts abstained.
Staff Presentation: Planner Bjurman presented the staff report and
outlined the location of the property. She stated the exception
request is to place an off -site sign on the west side of Foothill
on commercial property. She noted the proposed sign is to be 10"
x 20" and will look like a City street sign. She noted the purpose
and intent of the sign ordinance is primarily to provide for
necessary competition among businesses. She noted staff's primary
concern is the cumulative affect, however this particular user does
have a unique need for an off-site sign, because of its location.
Staff recommends approval with the condition that the sign be
redesigned to meet the City Traffic Engineer's concerns.
Applicant Presentation: Ms. Pamela Sharkey, Architect, Deep Cliff
Golf Course, stated they concur with staff and will redesign the
sign to meet the Traffic Engineer's concerns.
In response to Com. Mahoney's question, Ms. Bjurman stated the sign
will be as it exists today, but on a 7ft. galvanized pole. She
also noted for health and safety reasons the sign must be a certain
height.
MOTION: Com. Mahoney moved to approve application 3- EXC -93
subject to the findings and subconclusions of the
hearing, with the Condition that the sign be kept at 10"
high and 20" long.
SECOND: Com. Doyle
VOTE: Passed 3 -0 -1
ABSTAIN: Com. Roberts
The Commission continued with the Use Permit for this item.
Planner Bjurman presented the staff report outlining the location
of the golf course. She stated the request is for a master
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development permit and the zoning on the parcel requires that a
master development permit be adopted which would include building
locations, theme, uses, landscape areas and construction phasing.
Planner Bjurman stated the proposal is to, in the next three to
five years, add exterior lighting to the parking area as well as to
cover the existing patio. She noted they are also proposing some
path lighting throughout the site as well as uplighting for
landscaping. Additionally there is a 60 sq. ft. shack, for
informational items. She added the largest proposal is for the
teaching center which consists of a 600 sq. ft. building. Exterior
tables are also proposed for seating and a proposed green area for
putting as well as 14 hitting mats. In the putting area, exterior
lighting is also proposed.
Ms. Bjurman stated the following items are to be discussed:
Tree Removal: One Monterey Pine is currently dead and proposed for
removal. The remaining trees identified as "heavily impacted" in
the arborist reports are to be maintained for the longest extent
possible. Over the next 15 years the applicant is proposing to
plant 250 additional trees.
Flood Plain: Any new structure proposed in the flood plain must
conform to the municipal flood ordinance. Permits must also be
obtained from the Santa Clara Valley Water District and the State
Fish and Game Department.
Parking: The applicant currently does meet the parking
requirements and will, after improvements are completed. During
the peak season the parking lot is full and there is overflow
parking onto the side streets. A parking management plan has been
proposed which will be approved by staff.
Lighting impacts: Lighting is proposed at the club house area for
the parking lot. It is staff's opinion that the light proposed in
this area will not affect adjoining property owners, because the
closest homes are uphill and separated by trees. Lighting is also
proposed around the practice area. Staff can restrict the lighting
to this area only, but may in itself cause a nuisance, and the
Commission may want to consider limiting the lighting around the
practice pads only.
Noise: Staff received a complaint regarding the amplification
system. The Noise Ordinance does allow the use of amplification
systems subject to decibel level and length of use maximums. A
condition has been added to address the PA system.
Trail easement: This parcel is identified as a trail link in the
Stevens Creek Trail. One member of Deep Cliff Management will
participate on the Stevens Creek Trail Committee.
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Ms. Bjurman stated staff is recommending approval of the
development of the master plan, which will allow the improvements
without separate use permit approval.
Chr. Austin opened the public hearing.
Ms. Pamela Sharkey, Deep Cliff Golf Course, presented proposed word
changes to conditions in the staff report as follows:
Condition 4, hours of operation to be less restrictive.
Condition 6, Lighting, she noted the practice area is not a hitting
range. Ms. Sharkey stated the level of lighting proposed for this
area is similar to what is found in a parking lot. Ms. Sharkey
requested a wording amendment to include the proposed putting green
as part of the practice center.
Condition 8, Tree Management, Ms. Sharkey requested that they
notify the City when a tree dies and remove it, as opposed to
requiring a tree removal permit.
Mr. Reno Di Bono, 10675 Clubhouse Ln., believes that any proposal
to add lighting or to expand, is an attempt to further
commercialize a golf course which is in a residential area. Mr. Di
Bono stated the problems are as follows:
1. Cars frequently hit by golf balls on Clubhouse Lane,
2. Golfers leave debris,
3. Traffic very hazardous,
4. Parking on both sides of Clubhouse Lane during peak season,
5. Has encountered drivers who have been drinking.
Mr. Di Bono stated the golf course should be closed at dusk, but
cars come and go after dark. He noted the PA system is too loud.
He suggested no parking on Clubhouse lane, except for residents
with permits. He noted that improvements should be made to the
turn from McClellan onto Clubhouse Lane. He suggested speed bumps
to slow down traffic. Mr. Di Bono stated the letter he read is
signed by three residents on Clubhouse Lane. Mr.. Di Bono also read
a letter from Mr. Shaw into the record.
Ms. Saundra Wasoner, 10707 Par Three Dr., spoke in support of the
proposed improvements.
Mr. Jim Shaw, 10655 Clubhouse Ln., stated he concurs with Mr. Di
Bono. He expressed concern about no discussion of traffic in the
staff report and believes the improvements will increase traffic.
He believes there needs to be more thought put into the plan before
approving it. Mr. Shaw expressed concern about the lighting
disturbing the wildlife and noted any plans for improvements will
affect the neighborhood. Mr. Shaw stated the Manager from Deep
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Cliff has made some verbal commitments regarding some changes and
requested that any formal adoption of a plan should include his
commitments.
Planner Bjurman stated that staff did look at the traffic. She
added, traffic was discussed with the Environmental Review
Committee as well as with the Traffic Engineer. She noted the only
increased growth would be from the hitting mats proposed which
would result in approximately 40 additional parking spaces. She
stated this was not a concern from a health and safety point or a
level of service. She noted the applicant currently exceeds the
parking standard.
Mr. Roger A. Pott, 22273 De Anza Circle, stated he has lived in
this house for 16 years. He expressed disappointment about the
natural base pond being turned into an asphalt base, as this
resulted in the lose of bird life in the area. Mr. Pott's believes
that these improvements are a giant step forward to
commercialization. He stated he does not support the lighting
proposed and noise is a big problem. He stated there are parties
held after dusk. He stated this is currently a day -time operation
and should remain so. -
Mr. Henry Markus, 10714 Deep Cliffe Dr., concurred with all the
comments so far. He expressed concern about noise and has
complained several times about this. He noted the PA system is too
loud. Mr. Markus also expressed concern about the noise from
delivery vans and tree cutting.
Mr. Roy S. Mollard, 10728 Deep Cliffe Dr., stated the PA system has
been put in within the last three years and he has complained about
this to City staff. He noted he complained about some changes
which took place about 2 or 3 years ago. He stated he was given
many verbal assurance that problems would be dealt with. He spoke
in support of removing the PA system. Mr. Mollard stated other
sources of noise are the vacuum systems as well as delivery trucks.
He stated if this was commercial property, deliveries would be
limited. He added another source of noise is the mowing of the
greens. He proposed that the hours of operation be restricted to
6 a.m. to half hour after dusk. Mr. Mollard also expressed concern
about the proposed lighting stating this is not necessary and
affects both residents and the wild life. Mr. Mollard expressed
concern about traffic.
Mr. Thomas M. Waugh, 22293 De Anza Circle, stated he concurs with
Mr. Di Bono and Mr. Mollard's comments, particularly about the PA
system. He stated the PA system does not have a place in a
residential neighborhood. He stated he would support the proposals
made by the public regarding hours of operation from 6 a.m. to half
hour after dusk. He added he cannot use his deck in the evenings
because of loud noises and parties. He objects to the proposed
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lighting and believes it is not necessary if hours of operation are
limited. He stated the manager of Deep Cliff personally assured
him that something would change to improve the PA system.
Mr. David Webb, 10754 Deep Cliffe Dr., stated he agrees with the
previous speakers objections. He noted the golf course, at times,
has not been a good neighbor. Mr. Webb explained a situation in
which brush needed to be cleaned up. He stated after no response
from Deep Cliff it was cleaned up by neighbors at a cost of $350.
He objected to the lighting proposed and noted flash lights can be
used if necessary. Mr. Webb expressed concern about the PA system
being used in the early morning hours. He urged the Council not to
approve the plan at this time.
Mr. Ken Kulpa, P.O. Box 160212, Assistant Manager, Deep Cliff Golf
Course, stated he has lived on the property for four years. Mr.
Kulpa stated he is very familiar with the wildlife as he has
patrolled the golf course at night and light does not affect their
patterns. He stated the golf course is a natural audubon
cooperative sanctuary which was established two years ago, and
noted the diversity of bird life on the golf course. Regarding
noise, Mr. Kulpa stated a new mower was purchased to create a lower
noise level. Mr. Kulpa briefly addressed the neighbors they have
cooperated with and helped. He stated the T's will be rotated and
this is in agreement with the neighbors. Mr. Kulpa stated the
screen to protect the residents was put in place approximately two
years ago. He stated Deep Cliff Management has tried to be a good
neighbor and believes the lines of communication have been open.
Mr. Kulpa addressed the tournament parties and noted during the
summer months the latest they run is 10 p.m. He also pointed out
that the PA system is vital to the operation of the golf course.
Mr. Steven Schwartz, 10700 Clubhouse Ln., General Manager, Deep
Cliff, stated he has tired to work with the neighbors and is trying
hard to manage a golf course in a residential area. He believes a
way to solve some of the problems is to sit down with the neighbors
and discuss the issues. Mr. Schwartz stated the reason for the
improvements is because they were approached by•the City's Parks
and Recreation Department and the School District to provide
programs for school children. He stated Deep Cliff does not
currently have a practice facility and they are proposing 14 mats
with a net to allow children to come in and be taught golf. He
stated it is important that Jr. Golf be a part of the golf course.
Mr. Schwartz stated the golf course has operated at the same
capacity for the last 15 years and the reason for the practice area
is for school children.
Mr. Schwartz stated the peak season is only 30 days in the year and
the program to add another 20 stalls will alleviate some of the
cars parked on the side streets. He added, that currently the golf
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course has been operating until 10:00 p.m. in the summer months.
He believes the wildlife will not be affected by the proposed
lighting and added they will not cut down trees unnecessarily. He
stated that Deep Cliff is committed to Cupertino and believes the
lighting is important for a parking lot. He expressed concern
about safety without the lighting. He stated they have worked with
the neighbors in the past and will continue to work with them in
the future.
Mr. Gary Remmen, 10747 Par Three Dr., stated he moved into his
house because of the rural setting and expressed concern about the
changes proposed and also the changes made in the past. He
expressed concern about the noise of machinery out on the golf
course. He stated the trees were a buffer to the noise, but they
have been trimmed and no longer serve as a buffer. Mr. Remmen also
expressed concern about the lighting and would like to keep the
rural setting of the neighborhood.
Mr. Dale Adams, 10784 Deep ClifFe Dr., spoke in support of the
neighbors who spoke at this meeting. He stated he has objections
to the additional light proposed for the parking lot. He stated he
supports the golf course, but does not want to see the growth. He
• spoke in support of the dawn to dusk hours of operation.
Chr. Austin closed the public hearing.
Commissioners stated the issues are as follows:
Lighting
Hours of operation
Parking
Traffic
Noise
Wildlife
T- Rotation
Chr. Austin stated the Management: of Deep Cliff and the neighbors
need to resolve some of the problems. She also suggested a shuttle
for peak periods to cut down on the parking problems.
Com. Doyle stated a golf course in a neighborhood is not unusual
and the Commission needs to look at the long term activities. He
concurs with Chr. Austin, that a meeting should be held between the
neighbors and Deep Cliff.
Planner Bjurman addressed the past problems on Imperial Ave. and
noted the conditions tailored more closely to the public input.
She noted a series of public hearings were required with a one year
approval. She suggested the same approach for this application.
Com. Doyle expressed concern about the hours of operation proposed
and the starting time of the maintenance activities. He supports
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the tree management plan, the establishment of the school, and
noted the putting area is in existence. He expressed concern about
the practice area and the traffic it will generate.
Com. Mahoney spoke in support of the practice area and the
additional required parking. He stated the hours should be kept
from dawn to dusk and lighting should be restricted. He spoke in
support of removing and using an alternative to the PA system. He
supported the tree management program and suggested adding a
condition to address the T- rotation.
Chr. Austin stated she would also like the PA system removed, if
not, it should be severely limited. Hours should be dawn to dusk
and machinery should not start in the early morning hours. She
spoke in support of the teaching center and believes there is no
need for the lighting proposed if the hours of operation are
restricted.
Mr. Cowan suggested giving direction to the Traffic Department to
look at the traffic issues related to the intersection at Clubhouse
Lane and McClellan Rd.
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Com. Doyle reiterated that the additional parking requirements
related to the practice area is a major concern to him.
Mr. Cowan asked if the Commission would like more information,
particularly on the parking, before approving this? He stated
staff will also address the PA system.
The Commissioners agreed that more information is needed and this
should be continued.
Com. Mahoney stated this should be a day -time operation, but would
support minimal lighting.
Mr. Schwartz stated the proposal is a result of being approached by
the School District. He noted the golf course will not be busier
in the future and the practice facility proposed is an amenity to
the community. He noted a lot of work went into the proposed
master plan, and noted there will not be lighting all over the golf
course, but lighting is needed for the parking lot. He stated they
will talk with the neighbors to discuss the package as a whole.
The issues that need to be discussed are:
Parking
Alternative to the PA system
Current hours of operation
Maintenance hours.
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MOTION: Com. Mahoney moved to continue this 13 -U -93 and 15 -EA -93
to the meeting of January 24, 1994.
SECOND: Com. Doyle
VOTE: Passed 3 -0 -1
ABSTAIN: Com. Roberts
There was a request to move item 10 on the agenda.
10. Review of Chapter 19.96 (Parking and Keeping Vehicles in
Various Zones). Request by resident to move item to beginning
of agenda.
Staff Presentation: Planner Robillard presented the staff report
and recommends that the Planning Commission direct staff to
schedule a public hearing to amend section 19.96.030 and any other
municipal code section with similar regulations. He noted the
other option is to leave the ordinance as written.
In response to Commissioners questions, Planner Robillard stated
there are several alternatives that could be discussed at a public
hearing. He stated the 50% impervious coverage should be changed.
• In response to Com. Roberts question, Mr. Cowan stated several
years ago the City did prohibit parking of large vehicles and many
people petitioned that this be aI
Mr. Norma Bradlyn, 22344 Riverside Dr., asked if a permit is
required to cover the front yard of ones property?
Planner Robillard stated a permit is not required for putting in a
concrete pad.
Ms. Bradlyn stated the parking of the RV on St. Andrews is an
eyesore and will hurt property values. She noted people should
rent space if they want to have these large vehicles.
Mr. Greg Beall, 22437 St. Andrews Ave., stated this process was
started back in October. He noted they did not request that a code
be re- written so this would not happen in the future. Mr. Beall
asked the Planning Commission to reverse the position of staff. He
stated after several conversations with staff, they were lead to
believe that this would not be allowed, but were dismayed to learn
that there is no regulation which prohibits this. Mr. Beall
addressed Ordinance 19.96 which regulates the parking of vehicles
which are unsightly, oversized or detrimental to property values or
peace and enjoyment of neighboring property owners or residents.
He stated this ordinance does allow the activity, as shown in the
pictures, presented to the Commission. He believes this activity
violates every word stated in the purpose of the ordinance and has
a negative impact on the neighborhood. He stated he is
representing 9 residents on St Andrews Ave. who are requesting that
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the Planning Commission rule that the purpose of the code carries
greater weight than regulations, and order removal of the
development at 22448 St. Andrews Ave. He stated any new
regulations should be applied to this property.
Mr. Cowan stated the City Attorney assured him that there is no way
to allow the purpose and intent of the ordinance to override the
prescriptive section of the ordinance. He apologized if he mislead
people several months ago. He noted the only option is to prohibit
this from happening in the future.
Com. Roberts stated if the ordinance was changed to prohibit the
parking of vehicles exceeding a certain size, this would be
retroactive.
Mr. Cowan stated the person would have a legal non - conforming use.
He noted he will discuss this issue with the City Attorney.
Ms. Lydia Beall, 22437 St. Andrews Ave., stated they have been
following this since October and have been assured by staff that
this concrete pad would not occur. She believes that all the time
and effort put into stopping this concrete pad being put in place,
• was done in vain. She spoke in support of recreation in general,
but does not believe it should be imposed on a neighborhood.
Com. Mahoney stated there are two issues. One is, if a parking pad
is allowed at all, and the second is the size and shape of the
vehicle.
Planner Robillard briefly reviewed the front yard setbacks.
Ms. Ann Hart, 22423 St. Andrews Ave., asked if the vehicle must
belong to the homeowner? She also noted the pad as is, is too
large and must be amended. She suggested talking to the neighbors
and come up with a compromise.
Planner Robillard stated the property owner will reduce the
concrete pad to meet the 50% limit. He stated he will talk to the
property owner about discussing the issue with the neighbors.
Regarding the homeowner owning the vehicle, Planner Robillard
stated the only requirement is that the vehicle be registered.
There was a consensus to continue this item to January 24, 1994.
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5. Application No(s): 4- EXC -93
Applicant: Mike and Christy Akatiff
Property Owner: Same
Location: - 22002 Lindy Lane
EXCEPTION to construct an addition to a residence on slopes
greater than 30% in accordance with Section 19.40.050 of the
Municipal Code.
Staff Presentation: Planner Bjurman presented the staff report and
noted the existing home is in a heavily wooded area. She noted the
proposal is to add approximately 6,000 sq. ft. She stated this
project has been in building plan check since December 1992. Ms.
Bjurman stated the City Council created a special provision for
"pipe line" projects, which allowed an exception to be granted
based on General Plan policies and exception findings alone. She
added these projects would not be compared to the specific
provisions of the Site Development Regulation in the Ordinance.
She stated the design has a varied roof line and has a horizontal
wood decking. Ms. Bjurman stated there is a series of site
constraints which limit the location of the addition. Ms. Bjurman
stated staff recommends approval as outlined in the staff report.
In response to Chr. Austin's question regarding tree removal, Ms.
Bjurman stated the tree which is to be removed was not required to
be replaced as it is in a heavily wooded area. Ms. Bjurman briefly
reviewed the proposed plans. She noted this proposal did meet the
previous hillside ordinance.
Chr. Austin opened the public hearing.
Applicant Presentation: Mr. Mike Akatiff, 22002 Lindy Lane, stated
this process started back in 1989. He discussed a problem with a
water line, which took a couple of years to resolve. He stated
plans were submitted in 1991 and in the interim the General Plan
was changed and they were not aware of this. He added when the
project was complete they realized it did not meet the current
standards. He stated they addressed the Council who directed that
the special provision be included in the General Plan.
Mr. H. William Rothstein, 5678 Hughes Place, Fremont, expressed
concern about the amount of exceptions on this agenda and asked
what assurances he has if he moves in to Cupertino that rules and
regulations won't change in a few years?
Chr. Austin closed the public hearing.
In response to Com. Roberts question regarding the exceptions, Ms.
Bjurman reviewed the exceptions if followed under the existing
General Plan.
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In response to Com. Mahoney's question regarding how many property
owners are in this situation, Mr. Cowan stated approximately 4 or
5. He noted they all went before the Council and the Council
included the special provision to address their problems.
Com. Roberts stated this application exceeds, in more ways, the
Ignacio application heard at a previous meeting.
Com. Mahoney stated there has been much time and money spent on
this and the Council did provide the special provision.
Chr. Austin expressed concern about the grading and also building
on a 30% slope. She stated she would not support this project.
Com. Doyle stated the Commission did take a stand by adopting the
Hillside Ordinance on November 15, 1993. He noted these people, in
good faith, planned under the old ordinance and submitted before
the November 15, 1993 date.
Ms. Bjurman stated there are no vantage points or prominent
ridgelines to be considered.
MOTION: Com. Mahoney moved to approve application 4- EXC -93
subject to the findings a subconclusions of the hearing.
SECOND: Com. Doyle
VOTE: Denied 2 -2
NOES: Austin, Roberts
Com. Roberts stated his denial is based on the combination of size
and slope.
6. Application No: 5- EXC -92
Applicant: Ronald J. Hass
Property Owner: Mehdi Naderzad /David Benjamin
Location: 21620 Rainbow Court
EXCEPTION to construct a new residence on slopes greater than
30% in accordance with Section 19.40.050 of the Municipal
Code.
staff Presentation: Planner Bjurman presented the staff report and
outlined the property location. She noted the applicant is
requesting an exception to Section 19.40.050 - Site Development
Regulations. She noted the total flat yard area proposed,
including the pool is 2400 sq. ft. She stated staff is
recommending approval of the pool and the exception as outlined in
the report. She added there are no ridgeline issues.
Chr. Austin opened the public hearing.
Applicant Presentation: Mr. Ronald Hass, representing property
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owner, noted the property was subdivided in the 80's and there was
a site plan approved for this parcel and the proposal is within the
original approval. He noted the main area for building does have
a slope which is in excess of 30% so there is not a viable option
to shift the pad. He noted the grading is contoured with the slope
and small walls are proposed to help minimize grading. He stated
the living area and garage is approximately 5200 sq. ft. He noted
the driveway comes in off an additional driveway for the adjoining
neighbor. He believes what is proposed is the best location for
the building.
Ms. Edith Zanotti, Rainbow Dr., stated she owns the utility road
above the lot in question. She stated she owns approximately five
feet in from the utility road and asked if this was taken into
consideration by the applicant.
Ms. Bjurman noted this was taken into consideration. Mr. Cowan
noted this will be certified by the engineer before building
begins.
Mr. Tim Heyboer, 21612 Villa Marie Ct. asked the reason for not
building on a slope 30% or greater?
Mr. Cowan stated this number was developed by the City Council and
Planning Commission and it is primarily based on aesthetics. Mr.
Cowan pointed out that if a building is proposed on a slope less
than 30% it is an administrative decision, but if more than 30%
slope, it must go through Planning Commission review.
Mr. Heyboer stated there is a neighborhood committee who reviews
architecture. Mr. Cowan stated the City does not enforce
neighborhood CC &R's. Mr. Heyboer stated they have had problems
with creeping soil.
Mr. Rothstein addressed the easement required, Ms. Bjurman stated
the easement has been granted as part of the subdivision.
In response to Com. Mahoney's question, Ms. Wordell stated the pool
is included in the flat yard area.
Com. Roberts expressed concern about the soils issue.
Regarding the soils problem addressed by Mr. Heyboer, Mr. Cowan
stated the Rainbow subdivision was approved in the mid 70's and the
City's geologist did review the work, and as a result of this,
roads were moved and land was removed and recompacted. He noted
this is the first he has heard of a problem in this area. He added
the overall subdivision was approved based upon a fairly exhaustive
geotechnical evaluation.
Ms. Agnes Benjamin, 21570 Rainbow Dr., stated she has never had a
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complaint regarding mud slides in this area.
Ms. Zanotti stated there have been areas in this location were the
soil has moved -.
Com. Doyle stated that 2400 sq. ft. flat yard area is reasonable
for this lot.
Com. Roberts expressed concern about drainage, but believes they
have put the house on the best location.
Com. Mahoney stated he would not support the exception for the
pool. He noted if there is a soils problem the pool will add to
this. He added 1400 sq. ft. maximum for flat yard area.
Chr. Austin concurred with Com. Mahoney.
MOTION: Com. Roberts moved to approve application 5- EXC -93
subject to the findings a conclusions of the hearing with
Condition 1 modified to eliminate the pool construction.
SECOND: Com. Mahoney
VOTE: Passed 2 -2
NOES: Doyle, Austin
Com. Doyle noted he did not vote for this motion because of the
condition on the pool, but would like the applicant to be able to
build.
MOTION: Com. Mahoney moved to approve application 5- EXC -93
subject to the findings a conclusions of the hearing with
Condition 1 modified to eliminate the pool construction.
SECOND: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Passed 3 -1
NOES: Austin
Com. Doyle commented that the applicant may appeal the flat yard
area allowed in order to construct his pool.
NEW BUSINESS: •
11. Selection of alternate Planning Commissioner to the
Environmental Review Committee.
This item was continued at this time.
REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
- None
REPORT OF DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
- None
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DISCUSSION OF NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS:
- None
ADJOURNMENT: - Having concluded business, the Planning Commission
adjourned at 11:50 P.M. to the next Regular Meeting
of January 10, 1994 at 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
- C.1
Catherine M.' Ro r llard,
Recording Secretary
Approved by the Planning Commission
at the Regular Meeting of January 10, 1994
Donna Austin, Chairwoman
Kim Smith, City
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