PC 11-22-1993 CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue
Cupertino, CA. 95014
(408) 252 -4505
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD ON NOVEMBER 22, 1993
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners Present: Vice Chairperson Mahoney
Commissioner Doyle
Commissioner Bautista
Commissioner Roberts
Commissioners Absent: Chr. Austin
Staff Present: Robert Cowan, Director of
Community Development
Ciddy Wordell, City Planner
Thomas Robillard, Planner II
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Com. Roberts commented on item 2. He noted they did not have the
opportunity to vote separately on the church and day care center.
He believes there was a misunderstanding and two Commissioners were
opposed to the day care and one Commissioner against the entire
project. He noted he does not want to change the minutes at this
time, but would like clarification as to how to vote on separate
issues in one use permit.
MOTION: Com. Doyle moved to approve the minutes, as presented.
SECOND: Com. Bautista
VOTE: Passed 4 -0 -1
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
POSTPONEMENTS OR NEW AGENDA ITEMS:
Item 4: Application 11 -U -93 and. 10 -EA -93 - Fit & Healthy Spa
Continued to the Planning Commission Meeting of December
13, 1993.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
- None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Ms. Lydia Beall, 22437 St. Andrews, stated she is here representing
a majority of residents on St. Andrews. She noted they are asking
the Planning Commission to revisit the interpretation of the
Ordinance regarding impervious coverage and parking in the front
yard. Ms. Beall presented photos reviewing the property owner who
completely covered his yard with concrete and noted this disrupts
the continuity of the street.
Mr. Cowan stated there is a conflict in the Ordinance and this will
be on the agenda on December 13, 1993.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 2
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Cancellation of December 27, 1993 Planning Commission Meeting.
MOTION: Com. Roberts moved to approve the consent calendar.
SECOND: Com. Doyle
VOTE: Passed 4 -0 -1
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW:
2. Application No(s): 2- ASA -93
Applicant: Gerald Kawamoto, MPA Design
Property Owner: Hewlett Packard Co.
Location: Wolfe and Homestead Roads
Review landscape plan for perimeter along Wolfe and Homestead
Roads.
Com. Mahoney stated he will abstain from this item as he is an
employee of Hewlett Packard.
Staff Presentation: Mr. Bob Cowan, Director of Community
Development, presented the staff report noting this is the
replacement of landscaping lost in the freeze of 1989. He stated
the landscaping will be more efficient and drought tolerant. He
stated the landscaping will also screen the parking lot.
Mr. Gerald Kawamoto, Hewlett Packard, presented an aerial of the
site outlining the landscaping proposed. He stated the landscaping
will screen the fence and the parking lot and drought tolerant
plants will be added.
Com. Doyle questioned #13 on the Landscape Architect Compliance
Statement?
Mr. Kawamoto stated this was a response from the irrigation
consultant.
Planner Robillard stated, what he interpreted from this response
was, that it does not matter if the requirements were met for the
precipitation rates, because it would not protect the landscaping
from run-off.
Mr. Cowan stated they have to maintain a water budget requirement
and staff will work out the correct wording.
In response to Com. Bautista's question, Mr. Kawamoto stated they
have no intentions of removing or adding any ash trees.
MOTION: Com. Bautista moved to approve 2- ASA -93 subject to the
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 3
findings and subconclusions of the hearing.
SECOND: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Passed 3 -1 -1
ABSTAIN: Com. Mahoney
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
3. Application No(s): 4- ASA -93
Applicant: Victor Mandella
Property Owner: Victor Mandella
Location: 20128 Stevens Creek Boulevard
Paint selection for an existing restaurant.
Staff Presentation: Planner Robillard presented the staff report
noting the Adobe Inn /Lounge was painted without approval. He
stated after notifying the applicant an application was filed. He
stated staff looked at this project and asked if it had not been
painted, should these colors be approved? Staff determined that
these colors would not have been approved and recommends that the
applicant choose new colors. He noted the green color is not used
extensively, but the body color is not acceptable.
Com. Bautista stated this building now blends in with the Townhomes
in the area.
Mr. Cowan stated the question is, is the color chosen for the
building sympathetic with the natural adobe materials? He noted
there has been controversy in the community regarding these colors.
Planner Robillard stated staff's position is that the main body
color is out of character and the green color used is minimal.
Com. Roberts stated he would support staff's recommendation.
Com. Bautista stated colors are regulated and property owners
should comply and follow the correct procedures, he would support
staff's recommendation. Com. Bautista asked what the next step is
if the applicant does not comply with the City?
Planner Robillard stated staff will work with the applicant and
give a certain number of days to comply. If the applicant does not
comply civil charges can be filed.
Com. Doyle stated that property owners should adhere to City codes.
MOTION: Com. Roberts moved to deny application 4- ASA -93 as
recommended by staff.
SECOND: Com. Doyle
VOTE: Passed 3 -1 -1
ABSTAIN: Com. Bautista
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 4 _
NEW BUSINESS:
5. Application 3- ASA -93 - Sign Designs, Inc.: Appeal of
Director's decision to deny sign program in accordance with
Section 17.24.020 of the Municipal Code.
Staff Presentation: Planner Robillard presented the staff report
noting that prior to adopting the new sign ordinance, ASAC reviewed
and denied this sign request because the red color is incompatible
with the red brick facade of the.building. He noted the action was
appealed to the City Council, who upheld ASAC's decision. He
stated once the new sign ordinance was adopted the applicant
resubmitted his application and staff found the proposed signs were
incompatible with the building and other signs in the center.
Application Presentation: Mr. Thom Bingham, Sign Design, Inc.
reviewed the sign proposed noting they are proposing a white
background with red and blue letters. He added this is Pepsico's
new trademark for new colors and pointed out that a registered
trademark is protected by Federal law. Mr. Bingham stated the sign
proposed is smaller than existing.
The Commissioners discussed the lettering and the coloring, Mr.
Bingham stated Pepsico dictate this.
Com. Bautista suggested a white background on the ground sign and
white /ivory lettering on the building sign. Mr. Bingham stated
Pepsico would have objection to this.
In response to Com. Mahoney's question, Mr. Bingham stated the
letters and logo are flush into the brick. He also noted other
tenants have the ivory signs on the brick.
Mr. Cowan stated if the trademark issue drives the decision of the
Commission they may want to hear t City Attorney's opinion before
making a decision.
Planner Robillard stated even if the sign came in with a white
background the sign would still be incompatible with the sign
program for the building.
Com. Bautista stated there is a strong case for the white lettering
on the building and the ground sign compatible with the trademark
desires. He stated the Commission should consider the
architectural conformity of the other tenants.
In response to Com. Doyle's question, Planner Robillard stated ASAC
denied the sign because they considered the red colors on the
building conflicted with the brick color. They also stated the red
on the monument sign should be the same red used by other tenants.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 5
Com. Roberts stated he would like to see color displays when
considering applications such as this and would support continuing
this application at this time.
Com. Doyle spoke in support of Com. Bautista's suggestion.
The Commissioners discussed the trademark and if it protects
colors?
Com. Mahoney stated they do have some control over the sign,
regardless of the trademark.
Andy Swords, representing Harman Management, stated if there are
other red signs within the City, why limit the color if chosen for
their identity. He stated there are only three tenants in this
building and they are asking the main tenant, and owner of the
building, to conform to the smaller tenants. He stated times
change and the new direction for KFC is changing too. He stated
the colors are advertised and promoted as part of their trademark
and are just as important as other parts of their logo. Mr. Swords
stated in other communities were this is presented the major
concern is size and not color. He stated they would like to
resolve this at this time.
In response to Com. Bautista's question, Planner Robillard stated
there are approved red signs throughout the City.
Com. Bautista stated he does not want Cupertino to be viewed as
being unfriendly to business and the applicant made a compelling
argument for him to change his mind. He stated this is a corporate
wide logo, and he does not want to impose burdens.
MOTION: Com. Bautista moved to approve 3- ASA -93 as proposed by
the applicant.
SECOND: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Denied 2 -2 -1
NOES: Com. Mahoney, Com. Doyle
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
Com. Doyle stated there is a sign program in place and this should
be adhered to.
Com. Bautista stated that most major companies signs are reasonable
and does not believe this will be a blight on the City. He
believes the most significant concern is the size of the sign.
MOTION: Com. Bautista moved to approve 3- ASA -93 subject to the
building sign being white or ivory letters and the blue
and red colors on the monument sign to staff's approval.
SECOND: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Passed 4 -0 -1
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 6
VOTE: Passed 4 -0 -1
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
6. Selection of new Environmental Review Committee
representative.
Vice Chair Mahoney suggested selecting an interim ERC
representative as a new Commissioner will be on the Commission in
January and Chr. Austin is absent at this hearing.
Chr. Mahoney volunteered to serve on the ERC until the end of
January.
REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
- None
REPORT OF DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
- None
DISCUSSION OF NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS:
- None
ADJOURNMENT: Having concluded business, the Planning Commission
adjourned at 8:00 P.M. to the next Regular Meeting
of December 13, 1993 at 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
•
Cat erine M. Ro.i ar•,
Recording Secretary
Approved by the Planning Commission
at the Regular Meeting of December 13, 1993
Donna Austin, Chairwoman
Attest:
Kim Smith, City Clerk
CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA
10300 Torre Avenue
Cupertino, CA. 95014
(408) 252 -4505
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD ON NOVEMBER 22, 1993
SALUTE TO THE FLAG:
ROLL CALL:
Commissioners Present: Vice Chairperson Mahoney
Commissioner Doyle
Commissioner Bautista
Commissioner Roberts
Commissioners Absent: Chr. Austin
Staff Present: Robert Cowan, Director of
Community Development
Ciddy Wardell, City Planner
Thomas Robillard, Planner II
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Com. Roberts commented on item 2. He noted they did not have the
opportunity to vote separately on the church and day care center.
He believes there was a misunderstanding and two Commissioners were
opposed to the day care and one Commissioner against the entire
project. He noted he does not want to change the minutes at this
time, but would like clarification as to how to vote on separate
issues in one use permit.
MOTION: Com. Doyle moved to approve the minutes, as presented.
SECOND: Com. Bautista
VOTE: Passed 4 -0 -1
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
POSTPONEMENTS OR NEW AGENDA ITEMS:
Item 4: Application 11 -U -93 and 10 -EA -93 - Fit & Healthy Spa
Continued to the Planning Commission Meeting of December
13, 1993.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
- None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS:
Ms. Lydia Beall, 22437 St. Andrews, stated she is here representing
a majority of residents on St. Andrews. She noted they are asking
the Planning Commission to revisit the interpretation of the
Ordinance regarding impervious coverage and parking in the front
yard. Ms. Beall presented photos reviewing the property owner who
completely covered his yard with concrete and noted this disrupts
the continuity of the street.
Mr. Cowan stated there is a conflict in the Ordinance and this will
be on the agenda on December 13, 1993.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 2
CONSENT CALENDAR:
1. Cancellation of December 27, 1993 Planning Commission Meeting.
MOTION: Com. Roberts moved to approve the consent calendar.
SECOND: Com. Doyle
VOTE: Passed 4 -0 -1
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW:
2. Application No(s): 2- ASA -93
Applicant: Gerald Kawamoto, MPA Design
Property Owner: Hewlett Packard Co.
Location: Wolfe and Homestead Roads
Review landscape plan for perimeter along Wolfe and Homestead
Roads.
Com. Mahoney stated he will abstain from this item as he is an
employee of Hewlett Packard.
Staff Presentation: Mr. Bob Cowan, Director of Community
Development, presented the staff report noting this is the
replacement of landscaping lost in the freeze of 1989. He stated
the landscaping will be more efficient and drought tolerant. He
stated the landscaping will also screen the parking lot.
Mr. Gerald Kawamoto, Hewlett Packard, presented an aerial of the
site outlining the landscaping proposed. He stated the landscaping
will screen the fence and the parking lot and drought tolerant
plants will be added.
Com. Doyle questioned #13 on the Landscape Architect Compliance
Statement?
Mr. Kawamoto stated this was a response from the irrigation
consultant.
Planner Robillard stated, what he interpreted from this response
was, that it does not matter if the requirements were met for the
precipitation rates, because it would not protect the landscaping
from run -off.
Mr. Cowan stated they have to maintain a water budget requirement
and staff will work out the correct wording.
In response to Com. Bautista's question, Mr. Kawamoto stated they
have no intentions of removing or adding any ash trees.
MOTION: Com. Bautista moved to approve 2- ASA -93 subject to the
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 3
findings and subconclusions of the hearing.
SECOND: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Passed 3 -1 -1
ABSTAIN: Com. Mahoney
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
3. Application No(s): 4- ASA -93
Applicant: Victor Mandella
Property Owner: Victor M:andella
Location: 20128 Stevens Creek Boulevard
Paint selection for an existing restaurant.
Staff Presentation: Planner Robillard presented the staff report
noting the Adobe Inn /Lounge was painted without approval. He
stated after notifying the applicant an application was filed. He
stated staff looked at this project and asked if it had not been
painted, should these colors be approved? Staff determined that
these colors would not have been approved and recommends that the
applicant choose new colors. He noted the green color is not used
extensively, but the body color is not acceptable.
Com. Bautista stated this building_ now blends in with the Townhomes
in the area.
Mr. Cowan stated the question is, is the color chosen for the
building sympathetic with the natural adobe materials? He noted
there has been controversy in the community regarding these colors.
Planner Robillard stated staff's position is that the main body
color is out of character and the green color used is minimal.
Com. Roberts stated he would support staff's recommendation.
Com. Bautista stated colors are regulated and property owners
should comply and follow the correct procedures, he would support
staff's recommendation. Com. Bautista asked what the next step is
if the applicant does not comply with the City?
Planner Robillard stated staff will work with the applicant and
give a certain number of days to comply. If the applicant does not
comply civil charges can be filed.
Com. Doyle stated that property owners should adhere to City codes.
MOTION: Com. Roberts moved to deny application 4- ASA -93 as
recommended by staff.
SECOND: Com. Doyle
VOTE: Passed 3 -1 -1
ABSTAIN: Com. Bautista
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 4
NEW BUSINESS:
5. Application 3- ASA -93 - Sign Designs, Inc.: Appeal of
Director's decision to deny sign program in accordance with
Section 17.24.020 of the Municipal Code.
Staff Presentation: Planner Robillard presented the staff report
noting that prior to adopting the new sign ordinance, ASAC reviewed
and denied this sign request because the red color is incompatible
with the red brick facade of the building. He noted the action was
appealed to the City Council, who upheld ASAC's decision. He
stated once the new sign ordinance was adopted the applicant
resubmitted his application and staff found the proposed signs were
incompatible with the building and other signs in the center.
Application Presentation: Mr. Thom Bingham, Sign Design, Inc.
reviewed the sign proposed noting they are proposing a white
background with red and blue letters. He added this is Pepsico's
new trademark for new colors and pointed out that a registered
trademark is protected by Federal law. Mr. Bingham stated the sign
proposed is smaller than existing.
The Commissioners discussed the lettering and the coloring, Mr.
Bingham stated Pepsico dictate this.
Com. Bautista suggested a white background on the ground sign and
white /ivory lettering on the building sign. Mr. Bingham stated
Pepsico would have objection to this.
In response to Com. Mahoney's question, Mr. Bingham stated the
letters and logo are flush into the brick. He also noted other
tenants have the ivory signs on the brick.
Mr. Cowan stated if the trademark issue drives the decision of the
Commission they may want to hear the City Attorney's opinion before
making a decision.
Planner Robillard stated even if the sign came in with a white
background the sign would still be incompatible with the sign
program for the building.
Com. Bautista stated there is a strong case for the white lettering
on the building and the ground sign compatible with the trademark
desires. He stated the Commission should consider the
architectural conformity of the other tenants.
In response to Com. Doyle's question, Planner Robillard stated ASAC
denied the sign because they considered the red colors on the
building conflicted with the brick color. They also stated the red
on the monument sign should be the same red used by other tenants.
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 5
Com. Roberts stated he would l:Lke to see color displays when
considering applications such as this and would support continuing
this application at this time.
Com. Doyle spoke in support of Com. Bautista's suggestion.
The Commissioners discussed the trademark and if it protects
colors?
Com. Mahoney stated they do have some control over the sign,
regardless of the trademark.
Andy Swords, representing Harman Management, stated if there are
other red signs within the City, why limit the color if chosen for
their identity. He stated there are only three tenants in this
building and they are asking the main tenant, and owner of the
building, to conform to the smaller tenants. He stated times
change and the new direction for KFC is changing too. He stated
the colors are advertised and promoted as part of their trademark
and are just as important as other parts of their logo. Mr. Swords
stated in other communities were this is presented the major
concern is size and not color. He stated they would like to
resolve this at this time.
In response to Com. Bautista's question, Planner Robillard stated
there are approved red signs throughout the City.
Com. Bautista stated he does not. want Cupertino to be viewed as
being unfriendly to business and the applicant made a compelling
argument for him to change his mind. He stated this is a corporate
wide logo, and he does not want to impose burdens.
MOTION: Com. Bautista moved to approve 3- ASA -93 as proposed by
the applicant.
SECOND: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Denied 2 -2 -1
NOES: Com. Mahoney, Com. Doyle
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
Com. Doyle stated there is a sign program in place and this should
be adhered to.
Com. Bautista stated that most ma=jor companies signs are reasonable
and does not believe this will be a blight on the City. He
believes the most significant concern is the size of the sign.
MOTION: Com. Bautista moved to approve 3- ASA -93 subject to the
building sign being wh ::te or ivory letters and the blue
and red colors on the monument sign to staff's approval.
SECOND: Com. Roberts
VOTE: Passed 4 -0 -1
PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Regular Meeting of November 22 , 1993
Page 6
VOTE: Passed 4 -0 -1
ABSENT: Chr. Austin
6. Selection of new Environmental Review Committee
representative.
Vice Chair Mahoney suggested selecting an interim ERC
representative as a new Commissioner will be on the Commission in
January and Chr. Austin is absent at this hearing.
Chr. Mahoney volunteered to serve on the ERC until the end of
January.
REPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION:
- None
REPORT OF DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT:
- None
DISCUSSION OF NEWSPAPER CLIPPINGS:
- None
ADJOURNMENT: Having concluded business, the Planning Commission
adjourned at 8:00 P.M. to the next Regular Meeting
of December 13, 1993 at 6:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
•
Cat erine M. Ro.i ar.,
Recording Secretary
Approved by the Planning Commission
at the Regular Meeting of December 13, 1993
Donna Austin, Chairwoman
Attest:
/-n
Kim Smith, City Clerk