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PC 11-12-73 CITY OF CL'PERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA PC-131 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, California 95014 Page 1 Telephone: 252-4505 1 riTNUTES OF THE REGULAR rIEETING OF THE PLA,�INING COi�A'IISSION HELD ON �10VE�iBER 12, 1973 IN THE COUtiCIL CHAMBER CITY HALL, CUPERTINO, CALIFOR��IIA SALUTE TO THE FLAG Chairman 0'Keefe called the meeting to order at 7:32 P.M. with the Salute to the Flag. ROLL CALL Comm. present : Adams , BuChenuth , Gatto , Nellis , Chairman 0'Keef e Comm. absent: None Staff present: Director of Planning and Development Sisk Assistant City Attorney Kilian Associate Planner Cowan Traffic Engineer Grigg APPROVAL OF I�INUTES: Regular meeting of October 8, 1973: Page 7, second paragraph, line 3: Change "phase" to "face". Moved by Conun. Adams, seconded by Comm. Gatto to approve the Oct. 8th ?�Iinute Minutes of October 8, 1973, as amended. approved as amend ed Motion carried, 4-0-1 Comm. Buthenuth abstained Regular meeting of October 29, 1973: Page 4, last paragraph, second line should read: "...flood pl�in and zoning if epen space or similar zoning to restrict housing caer.e instituted. He..." Pa�e 10, last paragraph, line 5, delete !'move it." and replace with "n�ove the structure." � PC-131 MII�'UTES OF NOV�IBER 12, 1973 PLANNZNG COA�tISSION MEETING Page 2 Oct. 29th Moved by Comm, Nellis, seconded by Comm. Adams to approve the Minutes Minutes approve of October 29, 1973, as corrected. as corrected Motion carried, 5--0 Minutes of Adjourned Regular Meeting of September 20, 1973: Page 5, first paragraph, first line, insert the word "not" between the words "Nellis " and "to reop�n". Page $, third paragraph f_rom bottom, first line, delete the words "junior high" and replace with the word "elementary". Sept. 20th Moved by Co�n. Buthenuth, seconded by Comm. Gatto to approve the Min. approved Minutes of September 20, 1973, as corrected. as corrected � Motion carried, 5-0 Minutes of Adjourned Regular Meeting of October 11, 1973: Oct. llth Moved by Comm. Nellis, seconded by Comm. Gatto, to approve the Minutes riin . approved of October 11 , 1973 , as submitted . as submitted Motion carried, 5-0 POSTPONEMENTS, etc. -- There were none. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS -- There were none. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS -- There were none. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 1. CITY OF CUPERTINO: Public Hearing to consider 1973 Comprehensive General Plan. First Hearing continued. The Planning Director said it is not imperative that the Planning Commission hold a public hearing at this point; they have 40 days in which to respand to the City Council Cecision on the General Plan at this poin'� . ,. ,, MINUTES OF NOVEMI3ER 12, 1973, PLANNING CONIP�IISSION ME�:TING PC-131 Page 3 The Flanning llirector answered Comm. Nellis that City Council action was taken on a portion of the General PSan but the public hearing was never closed. The Assistant City Attorney reassured the Planning Conimission that , legally it,is not necessary co have a public hearing at this point. The Planning Cor�unission could close the public hearing i.f they felt it was not necessary tn have additiona]. input frum the public. . There follow�d a discussion about whether or not the General Plan discussion should take p"lace at this time of under Unfinished Busin.ess. The Assistant City Attorney advised the public hearing on agenda item 3, appli.cati.on 18-U-73, shoul.d not commence before � 9 P. M. With that, it was decided they would not deviate from the agenda. Comm. Adams noted that when the Planning Commission went through its deliberations it decided commercial on the east and caest sides of Highway 9 wauld result in entirely too much traffic. The . Planning Director said the City Council indicated they would�stay � with the 8 lanes on Highway 9 and 16 trip ends per peak hour. , Comm. Nellis stated �hat she is ger�erally not pleased with cahat the City Council ilas sent back to the Planning Commissioa. The concept of performance standards is not a new one. It was brought out at the Planning Commission meetings by Comm. Gatto and the Commission discussed it at great lengttis. She said �ve are talking about Cwo very diffcrent proposals. The intensity the Council_ is � talking about is at least twice that arrived a� by the Commission. Comm, Nellis said slle did not understand the rationale for coni- mercial on the south side of Stevens Creek Blvd. Further, she ' believes the plan suffers from lack of opei� space. She believes the Council missed the point of the Plan.ning Commission recom- mendation for the corner of Stevens Creek Blvd. and Highway 9. The Council's argument �vas that it was not a good place for a park; ' however, this was not the Planning Commission's recommendaeion, but rather that it was to 'serve as open space. Comni. Gatto felt it was important to establish reasons why these decisions were made. Along Highcaay 9, with 6 l.anes you arrivs at � _ one crite.ria and with 8 lanes you create another criteria. Character of tl:e city has been d�scussed, but the Planning Com- . mission never really establishea reasons for its decisions. He was not unhappy with the City (;ouncil's decisions. He believes that performance standar_ds is a good approach. PC-131 MINUTES OI' NOVEMB�R 12, .1973 PI�ANNING CONL�fISSION MErTING Page 4 Chairman 0'Keefe felt Chat tlie Planning Conunissian's decision on Stevens Creek B1vd. was based on a differentiation between Vallco Park Re�;ional Center and the Town Center. 'The open space at the intersection of I:iighway 9 and Stevens CLeek Iilvd. �aould be across the street from the Tow,i Center. We will not ha.ve the hierarchy of the Town Center, the Regional Center and Flint Center. The low ir�tensity on Highway 9 was an effort on the part of. the Planni.ng Commission to help alleviate traffic at the Itighway 9/Stevens Creek Blvd.�inter- section. Chairman (�'Keefe was concerned that Blaney Avenue, essential.ly residential, will have increased north/south traffic. Jack-In-The-Box has purchased the property' at Stevens Creek Blvd. and Blaney behind . the Shell station. We have lost something for our Town Center since the three theaters are moving across from Flint C�euter. We now have a fragmentation of commercial. � • Chairman 0'Keefe acknowledged that the City Council is talking ab�ut a recreational area at Stelling and Homestead Roads. . ' 'There was some discussion of the rep�rt to the City Council by San Jose State Professor �fyronek, in regard to air quality at the inter- section of Highway 9 a.nd SCevens Creek Blvd. Comm. Buthenuth said it never was his iutention to have a park at that intersection but rather an open green, open space area. He would like to see this �property and the property at Stelling and Stevens Creek Blvd. as open ; space with overlaying zone of commercial. � �Comm. Buthenuth said that in th� last six months there has been a trPmendous change by the government in regard to the automobile. '. We may not even have a traffic probletn ttao or three years from now. Comm. Neliis raised the question of whether or not a regional center � would be successful, considering the dependence on. the automobile. Comm. Gatto asked how we are measuring the intensity of Chose uses that we expect to happen. He beiieves the intensity levels can be I set and the actual use could remain floating. It is easier to update from year to year a performance standard than a zoning. �omm. Nellis sai�i she would be opposed to 16 dwelling units oer acre � and all industrial in the area of IIighway 9 as well ��s to all commercial use. 5he caould like to become more specific. Alo:zg the west side of Highway 9 she caould like to see the area zoned PD commercial. She is • r f opposed to the industrial �lesignation mentioned on the Town Center property. � I f � � MI�`UTI:S Ol NOVL•'�`tI3�K l2, 1_973 YLAtiI�I;;G CO.LL'I1:SSIUi� ii1:I::iZNG PC-131 Pa�e S Chairr.ian 0'heefe noted tt�at s�:ne of ttie fi_nest restaurants in Paris are in the hearC c£ the v��e_tat�le ni.�rl�:et. I3e said one of the stron�; points in favor of �'allco Pari:, <zs far as the energy crisis i.s conr.erned , is that �� �ti�o>>.ld create a major industrial an� comr��ercial node. Residential along Stevens Creek I31vd. ���ould enhance this. He said thcre i_s evciy lil:.elihood that the impor- tance of the 3l1tOI;lO�l1.C' will dccrease in th� next fe�: years. , There is the possibilit5� that the S�even� Cree'�c Blvcl, area �aili close up at 9 P.�1. Commercia_i_ alo:i� Stevens Creel: B].vd, ��ill under:aine the Plaiining Coininission's conce�t for this area . • Comm. Buthenuth felt that instead af a predominance of con,mercia7. in a �iv�n area there should be a requireme.nt for a mixture of . usWs. Comm. Nellis believes there should more specifics as to ' residential densities. She believes that �•:e coul_d be encouraging � strip c�m.r�ercial �aith this trip end approach. Coman. Buthenuth said the City Council realizes this. The Planning Directcr said there are other constraints to control this such as bufiers, . inbress/e�ress, etc. Tlle City tail"1 have tile al.ilit�,� to revie�•� � the developmenL plans. C�n:m. tiellis said tiie Planning Commission took a very stron� stand agaizis� strip commercial. Chairman 0'b'eefe was concerne3 that tl.e performance schedule �aould . nat give us the ��lanned develop� �,e are seelcing. The Planning Director s�id that in the developr:ient oi the orciinances the Cit �aould be able to spealc to and insist upon certain tl:ings. Chairman 0'Reefe said that if we go to comsnercial alcn� Hi.Uhway 9 the Vallco Parlc reduction �aill be represented alon� Higli�,ray 9. ' Com� . BUL'll�Illltll brou�ht up a�ain the thought to locate the regiona . center at .iariani riall ivas to l:eep Vallco Parlc as an industrial center. Comm. I�ellis said there is so:�ethi.ng to that argur.ient. � Now we have commercial g',011l� inro Vallco Park ��nd industrial on Mariani r1a11 property. The questiori ;oes deeper tlian jusC a . ti'affic intet:sity r.iatter. Tlie Plan;:in;; Director said th�re has been a l.essenitig of intensity alon; Hi�h:.-ay 9. � Comm. Buthenutl� said tllat with ttle energ; crisis and environmental impacts, there ��ill he very liLtle free;�a_}� constructi_en activity . from 110i•1 on. In the future, we c•�ill not have ttle automooile traffic pr.o�lems c.e have now. � PC-131 Pili��U'1'LS OI' \t�Vr:•IB;:R 12 1973 P1.e�,�NI��G CO:C�tISSIOt` I`II:L"fI;VG P��gC'_ 6 The Planning Di.rector said the following is necessary before this �oes back Co the City Cou�lcil: The Pl.ai�nin; Cu:r.;:iission sl�ould make a state,nent � on Cl�e Citv (:ouncil dccision on tiie core area anci be;in th.inking about . imole,nent�tion :�ith orain,inces, etc. �1n 1: �mp�ict Report on the Ceneral_ Plan st�ouici also be discussed by the Planninr; Commission. , The Ylann in� �.uP:::115510I1 sliould report on ttie cltanges i�ade ny the City . Council. Comm. �;ellis said ttie P1 <lnning ComTission appears to still see open green use witi� cem;�lercial as underlying zone at the Stevens Creek Blvd. _ and I�ighway 9 intersectio,n. � � There ��Tas some discttssion of the recreation area on Stellin� Road. Chairman 0'�eefe believes it ��ould be a serious mistake to take any recreation faci.liries away from ttle To��.l Center until it� is fully established. SCB/Hco}� �9 :ioved by Comm. Nellis , seconded• Uy Conli-n. Adams that the Planning intersecticn Commissien lias reconsidered tlie intersection of Stevens Creek filvd, and open space High�.�ay 9 tor open space purnoses ancl still holds its positien that w/comrr.ercial it should be zoned open space �aith undexl_yino zore to be the same as underlying zone. the re��aii:der of Stevens Creek Blvd. for the purpose of allowing the City to purchase the land. Comm. �uthenuth believed the northcaest corner of that intersection could be deleted from this motion. It could be inte�yr-ated �aith more commercial. Tlie service station and rest�.urant probably �•,on't be there very long. in Cerms oF priority, C�e�.m. �ellis i•�ould be willing to put the north�•:est carner on ttle loc��esC priority. . AYES:, Comm. Adams, Buthenuth, Gatto, Nellis, Cliairman 0`Kee�e " NOES: None . �iotion carried, 5-0 Comm. Ga*to said he caould li.ke to go back and reviet� the goals set up Co try to deLermine some f lehibility a�1d allo�a developnent of property. GP continued �foved by Comm. Buthenuth, second�d b} Comr�l. Gatto to continue the public to Nov. 19th hearino of the General Plan ancl ordinances to November 19, 1973 at . 7 : 30 P .ti , riotion carried, 5-0 Cliairman 0'Keefe called a recess at 9;08 P.:�I. The meeting reconvened at 9:22 P.�1, � MINU7'ES OF N�JVF.MBLR 12, 1973 PLANNING COi�1ISSI0N r1E�TING PC-131 Page 7 2. CITY OF CUPERTINO: Public Hearing to consider the"following ordinances: A. Recreation Entertainment Zoning Ordinance Regulating Commercial Recreation Uses; ' B. Amendment to Planned Development Zoni.ng, Ordinance 002(0) to Establish Procedures for tlie Citiy of Cupertino to initiate a Planned Development Zoning District; , ' C. Neighborhood Commercial Ordinance to Regulate Convenience Neighborhood Commercial Uses. Publ.ic hearing on the above will continue on Nove.mber 19, 1973. 3. Application 1$-U-73 of S.H.A.R.E., INC.: USE PEIZr1IT to ` � modify the approved development plan for the planned development to include a banlc witli a drive-up window facilit�y. Said rroperty is caithin a P (Planned Development �aith profes- sional of_f ice and comr.�ercial intent) zone and is located bet�ae n Stevens Creek Blvd. and Alves Drive, approximately 150 feet Laesterly of Saich Way. First Hearinb. The Associatc� Planner said the Planning Commission approved a use permit for Stevens Creek Center earlier this year. The request at this time is to modify this plan someu;hat , as reflected in the November 9th staff inemo. Two matters of concern with this modif icatian are setback of the banlc building and curb cuts . The staff recommended denial o£ this application. . Mr . T�arry Madsen , architect for this pro j ect , said he was repr.e- senting the owners at this r:ieeting. This chan�e was brought about � becaus� it is felt this was an excellent use of the property. He worked on the traffic patterns and people patterns with United California Banlc and S.H.A.R.E. He noted one of the principal u�es of a bank these days is the drive-up window. This proposal calls for a total of three stati_ons. The setback is 30' from the street He has met the parking requirements, not including the drive--up windows. He removed S parking spaces when he moved the building, but �aith the drive-up wind�ws, they are adding 1.0-15 spa.ces, The curb cut is 120' from the entry to the office center. The next cur.b cut is in front of �ey Chevrolet. �Ie said PlaiL A-2 t�orks quite.well in all instances. Fle does not think the project should be handicapped by the curb cut problem. PC-131 A1INUTES OF NOVEMBLR 12, 1973 PLANNING COr1MISSION MEETING Page 8 �aith all due respect to the H-Control Committee, Comm. Adams said he still prefers ro see the long part of the building facing Stevens Creek Blvd. and the drive-up windo�as at the rear -- even to the point of allowing the front o£ tiie building to be longer. Mr. Madsen said he considered this , taut it did not work out , traf f icwise , Comm. �3uthenuth suggested movir.g the buildi.ng back and putting the cages in the front. He would prefer not to have any more curb cuts. Comm. Nellis believes tliis proposal would just add to tlie problem already being experienced at the Post Otfice. She said the reason the variance was granted for this propert;� was that it was a planned development, wliich reduces the curb cuts. She would be against any additional curb cuts. It was suggested this be postponed to allow Mr. Madsen time to do some re�vork. Mr. rladsen said he would prefer a decision from the Planning Commission at this meeting rather than a postponement. Chairman 0'Keefe asked for comments from the audience. Nlrs. Lucien Hertert, San Juan Road, asked the Planning Comn�ission if they would review their attitude toward drive-up windows; considering the running of motors as the cars wait in lirie. The inconvenience of asking the customers to park and go inside is probably no greater than would be at a grocery or clothing sCore. She would like to ask for an environmental impact report on drive-up �,*indows. The Flanning Director said this project was approved prior to the requirement for EIR's. Comm.' Buthenutn said the convenience of drive�up windows, with their extended hours, has helped him personally. Mrs, Hertert suggested walk-up windows are much more desirable. Nloved by Comm. Nellis, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the publ.ic hear ing . Motion carried, S-0 Comm. Gatto said the question here is. of curb cuts and setback. Both requests are contrary to oahat we have been trying to accor,iplish �7ith the General Plan hearings. He said he supports the staf.f's position to either contim,e this foi- the �;uYp�se of �aorking further on the probiem or to deny the application. MINUTES OF NOVEM�ER 12, 1973 PLANNING COr�ZISSION MEETING PC-131 Page 9 Moved t�y Comm. Gatto, seconded lay Chairman 0'Kee�E, to deny 18 U-73 application 18-U-�73. denied AYES: Comm, Adams, Buthenuth, Gatto, Nellis, Chairman 0'Keefe � NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 4. applicat�on 15-TM-73 of M�ASUREX CORPOR[1TION: TENTATIVE MAP � to removz and relocate parcel lines on a 17.187 acre parcel. Said property is within a riL (Ligl,t Industrial) zone and is located at the north�aest corner of the intersection of Bubb an McClellan Roads. First Hearing. The Planning Director referred to the November 9, 1973 staff inemo on this matter. This application would eliminate Imperial Avenue since the eiitire proper.ty will be utilized by rleasurex. The Traffic Engineer studied the matter as �o the effect on the balancs of the area if Imperial Avenue were not to go thro�igh. Three schemati.c drawings wex e displayed showing possible solutions Existing Eubb Road seems to have the capacity to handle the traffic �omin.g into the area. The Traffic I:ngineer reviecaed the Imperial Avenue Traffic Analysis report done by the Traffic Engineering Consultant Renato G. Martinez, C.E. He noted that long trips are basically � freeway trips. The critica]_ assignments are the traffic coming in from the st�uth. It would be more c�nvenient and desir.able for them to go through lrnper-i_al Avenue if it were ext2nded. But the � left turn pocl.et that �.lould be needed would exceed the length af the road between Imperial ar�d McClellan. Mr. Wes Burgin, representing Measur.ex Corporation, 10475 Imperial � Avenue, said this right-of-way has been given to Lhe City by a previous property o�aner. The extension of Imperial Avenue is not only undesirable, it is downxigllt obnoxious� Their groc,�th has exceeded thei.r expectations . They have comp]_etel.y abandoned any tlioughL that any of this proper.•ty wi.11 be occupied by anyl�ody � other than Measurex. They wi11 have fork lifts and people on foot crossing that street iri the normal. course of their business. ' They considex'ed narro��ling that street and movi.ng it adjacent to the railroad Lracks. He said Plan B, with L cul-de--sac, is more beneficial to rleasurex and is not detrimental to the community. 13uhb Road can handle the traf.fic and there is 1_ittle to be gained by a second arteriai in sucYi close proximity. PC-131 INUT E5 OF NOVLMBLR 12, 1973 PLANNING COM1`fISSION MELTING Page 10 omm. Gatto asked i.f Mr. Burgi.n had any conunents on the condiCions . suggested by the staff, r1r. Burgin said the property 74' wide by 800' long is worth about $60,000 and ttie improvements of it would c.ost about $60,000, with a net accrua]_ to rleasurex of $120,000. lith this in mind, they are willing to agree to Condition 16. It aill be Co their advantage L'o have ingress improvements at Stevens Creek Blvd. r. Burgin said the thrust of Condition 17 is to reduce vehicular tr.aFfic to and from that site. It costs them $1000 per space for parking for employees. They would preter to put this money into . profit sharing or something. There ar.e a great many corporate ad�antages to reducing vehicular traEfic. They are tallcing about various lcinds of bus orlimousine services and of compensating the employees who walic � or are in car pools. He said their people come to work over a • protracted period of time more so than other industri_es. When a te5t is started it must be followed through. Comm. Buthenuth said that at the time of the original tentative map application there was cotisiderable discussion of parcel 3. He aslced what rleasurex woul.d think about considerir.g parcel 3 as open space. Mr. Burgin said Nieasurex has no plans for that property. He thinks they could work out the development and maintenance of landscaping on that property, but he was not sure they would agree to putting in any large statues or fountains. Comm. Buthenuth would like to have this included as oiie of �he conditions of approval. Chairmar. 0'Keefe asked for comments from the audience. NIr's. Barbara Truebell, 10354 Imperial Avenue, said there is quite a traffic problem on Imperial Aven�ae, particularly from Olive Avenue � to the end of the street. This is a residential area. The truck traffic has increased since rfeasurex came in. There are no sidecaalks. Noise is a factor. She believes the cul-de-sac is an exr_ellent solution. She wc�uld like the City to consider prohibiting these large trucks from going down the residenCial_ strePt. If the CiCy agrees, Mr. Burgin said he �aould be willing to put up a sign indicating that Imperial Avenue is aot the entrance to �teasurex. Comm. Buthenuth said if thi.s proposal is approved, Measurex may n�t have an Imperial Avenue address. Ann Anger, Monta Vista, said she is very much concerned about Imperial ' Avenue, even though she does not live o11 it. It is a combination of industrial and re.sidentia.l. That street has some very fine homes on it. She was happy,to hear rieasurex's statements. She said Monta Vista needs some upgrading. Judy Fontaine, 10353 Imperial Avenue is a new r.esident and sa_id she loves ttie area ; hates the tr. af f ic . . ; � � MINUTES' OF TIi� NOVEM�ER 1'Z, 1973 PI.ANNING COI�IMISSION MF,I;TING PC � Pa�e 11 Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the public hearing. Motion carried, 5-0 Moved by C�mm. Gatto, seconded by Chairman 0'Keefe to approve 15-TM-73 application 15-TT1-73, subject to the 17 listed. conditions and approved � condition 18 brought up at this meetinj concerning parcel 3. w/conditions AYES: Comm. Adams, Buthenuth, Gatto, Nellis, Chairman 0'Keefe NOES: None Motion carried, S-0 Moved by Comm. Gatto, seconded by Chairman 0'I:eefe that the Exte-�sion or Planning Commission finds Imperial Avenue E�xtension is not Imperial Ave. necessar}� and, therefore, recommends abandoning it. abandone.d AYES: Comm. Adams, Burhenuth, Gatto, Nellis, Ciiairman 0'Keefe �10ES ; None . � � Motion carried, 5-0 5. Application 16-Tr1-73 of STEPHEN G.AZZERA, JR. ; TENTATIVE NTAP to erase lot line between two parcels. Said property is located approximately 170 feet sou�:herly of Stevens Creek Blvd. and approximately 200 feet easterly of Blaney Avenue, and is within a CG (General Conunercial) zone. First Hearing. The Associate Planner reviewed the staff's conunents on this appli- cati.on in the staff report of November 3, 1973. He said thi.s is basically a routine action. Chairman 0'Keefe asked for comments from the audience. There were none. � rloved by Comm. Bu�henuth, seconded by Comm. Nellis to close the public hearing. Motion carried, 5--0 rfoved by Comm. Buthenuth, seconded b� Comm. Gatto to recommend �.6-Tr2-73 approval of 16=rrt-73 �aith the 14 standard conditions . approved w/conditions AY�S: Conun, Adams, �utlienuLh, Gatto, Nel.l.is, Ch��irman 0'Keefe NOES: None Motion carried, 5-0 PC-131 MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 12, 1973 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Page 12 6. Application 19-�T--73 of EDWIN J. MYERS : USE PERPIIT to allow the use of an existing 20,691 sq, ft. building as a building supply center and to conduct retail activities outdoors. Saic� property is within a CG (Ger.eral Commercial) zone and is located in the Portal Plaza Shopping Center at the northeast corner of Stevens Creek Blvd, and Portal Avenue. First Hearing. The Associate Planner said there are two areas that should be explored on this application: the use, and tl�e design changes. The staff has recommended some rather stringent conditions relating to noise. The staFf would like to have the applicant e�aborate on the landscaping of the site. The parking in that center is adequate. The Associate Planner answered Comm. Buthenuth that the Ordinance excludes lumber yards from commercial zones. The proposal here is for activities similar to Orchard Supply, Minton's, etc. There was some discussion alaout whether or not this type use would generate more or less traffic than the previous supermarket use. Chairman 0'Keefe also wanted to explore the problem of the carts that usually are left outside after the customers have unloaded their purchases into th�ir cars. In addition, he wanted to know cahat steps will be taken to prohibit speeding within that parking lot. Mr. Edwiri J. Myers, 10601 South Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, Cupertino, said that at the time the Azuma Restaurant at�the other end of this complex was approved they made some improvement in the landscaping, etc. They were told by H-Control they would be required to hide the air conditioning units on the roof and make more extensive landscaping improvements at the time they made these improvements. Regarding the parking, he feels the parking requirements for this type operation would be very similar to those of a grocery store. He answered Comm. Buthenurh that the new wood fence would match the screen �n the building (Texture 111 redwood) . Chairman 0'Keefe asked for cor�ments from the audience. Mr. Les Ley, Santa Cruz Lumber Company, said they propose to operate a home improvements type busin.ess here. At this location the material . � would be laid out for.the customer to take home himself. In regard to condition 16, most of the lumber will be precut but they would like to be able to cut to specification occasionally. Their hours will be 9 to 6 daily, They would try to keep the sound within a certain decibel rating at the property lines. As to the paging, they believe they can meet a standard set up by the staff, . . , ' MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 12, 1973 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING PC-131 Page 13 As to the forklift, Mr. Ley said he hopes some standard will be set for some type satisfactory muffling that is reasonable. They plan to tiave 15 clerks. He answered Comm. Gatto that his normal operating hours are 9 A.M. to 9 P.M., 7 days a week. They limit their deliveries from 8 A.M. to S P.M. They anticipate � perhaps 6 different delivery trucks throughout the day. The outdoor sales area will be lit. . Mr. P�yers answered Comm. Nellis that the distance from the back of the existing market to the residentiai properCy line to the rear is 25 f eet . • Chairman 0'Keefe asked how broad a marketing area they are con- sidering. Mr. Ley said that realistically, they will consider a 3-mile radius for most of their customers. In Santa Cruz, people come from longer distances because there is practically no competition for them down there. Saturday would be their best day. Sunday business is about like a caeek day. Mr. Ley said he did not think there would be as much of a.problem � �aith his delivery trucks as there was from the former supermarket. Ms. l�nn Anger, Monta Vista, said she is very much opposed to this establishment in our future downtocan Cupertino. She envisions this type operation in Dr. Brown's area but not on Stevens Creek Blvd. If this were allowed she �aondere� what would happen to that beautiful, vacant lot across the street. Moved by Comm. Nellis, seconded by Comm. Adams to close the public hearing. ' � . Motion carried, 5-0 • Comm. Nellis acknowledged that this is a clean aperation; however, her concern is the noise, particularly since it is so close to � residential. Comm. Adams said Condition 16 covers this problem of the power saws. �Howzver, he feels the capability exists to . provide this service to the custom.ers inside the building•. The us of forklift trucks is pretty standard practice in operations such � as this; they car_ be muffled. This operation would provide a� service for the neighborhood. � Comm. Buthenuth said our ordinances at this time do not allow this type use in commercial zones. Half the operation is outdoors. There will he other, more suitable locations in Cupertino for this operation. He does not think this type use would upgrade the area PC-131 r1INUTES OF TH� NOVEMBER 12, 1973 YLANNINU CO�I�fIS5I0N MEETING Yage 14 Comm. Gatto said this application provides a good test as te application of perFo rniance standards. The staff has spoken to the undesirable char- acteristics in a way that overcomes those characteristics. The noise problems can be solved. Ttie treat�nent of the outside area needs rework, hocaever. If done properly, the objections can be overcome. Chairman 0`Keefe said a rose is a rose is a rose; and a lumber yard is a iumber yard is a lumber yard. Here we are putting a lumber yard be�ween our regional center and the town center. He foresees many enforcement problems with the proposed conditions. We are taking away a niehgborhood market. We are affecting groperCy values. We are going to affect the streets in the area. He is unalterably � opposed to this proposed use. 19-U-73 Moved by Comm. Buthenuth, seconded by CoMm. 0'Keefe to deny application denied 19-U-73. AYES: Comm. Buthenuth, Nellis, Chairman 0'Keef� NOES: Comm. Adams, Gatto Motion carried, 3-2 Comm. Buthenuth said the outdoor stacking of lumber; etc., does not belong in a commercial zone, along with the power saws, the public address system and the fork lifts. They belong in a ligh� industrial zone. Chaizman 0'Keefe said the traffi.c and the lighting a.re also reasons for deriial. Comm. Nellis' reason for voting against this application was thE noise. The applicant was informed of his right of appeal. UNFINI.SHED BUSINESS -- There was none. NEW BUSINESS Energy crisis After some discussion, a minute order was proppsed by Comm. Nelli.s and minute order seconded by Comm. Gatto that the Cupertino Planning Commission , . recognizes that the United States of �-nerica is in the rnidst of an energy crisis; therefore, it recommends that the City Cauncil take all steps possible to conserve energy, not only within the City boundaries ° �but also beyond. Motion carried, 5-0 MINUTES OF TtiIE NOVE��IEER 12, 1973 PLAl\:1l�,rr, CO�L�IISSION �IEETING PC-131 Pa�;e 15 REPORT OF THE PL��vI��G CO�L�fISSI0:1 It was deci�ded that Cocrun. Gatto i•�ould be the ne�a� ERC �iember from Cor�*�. Gatto the Plannin,, Cor;li-nission, with Conun. Nellis as alternate. to ERC REPORT OF TtiE PLt�:tiNING DIRECTOR -- No report . ADJOUR:�'�IE�1T � Tioved by Comm. Nellis, seconded by Comsn. Adams to adjourn the meetin�; to \ovember 19, 1973, at 7:30 P.1`I. The meeting adjourned at 11:58 P.Pf. � Motion carried, 5-0 APPROVED: /s/ Daniel P. 0'k.eefe Chairman ATTEST: /s/ Wm. E. Ryder ; City Clerk ,