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PC 11-06-73 � CITY OF CUP�?RTINO, STA'LI; OI' C�1I,T�'ORNIA ��.-�$g 1030U Z'orre Avenue, Cupertino, Calii:ornia 95014 Pa�e 1 Teleptione ; 252-4505 MINUTES OF THE ADJOURI�?ED R�GULEIR TIEETIi1G OF THE CITY C()UNCIi� HELD JOI�'TLY ;JITIi TI�E PLf1NNING COT1rIISSION NOV�'�IBER 6, 1973 , CITY HALL CUPERTINO, CALIFORNIA ROLL CALL � Councilmen present: Frolich, Jackson, M�yers, Sparks, Mayor Irwin Councilmen absent: None Planning Commiss�oners present: Adams, Buthenuth, Gatto, Nellis, Chairman 0' Keef e Planning Commissioners a�senL: None ' Staff present: City Manager Quinlan City Attorney A,dams nirector of_ Administrat�.ve Services Ryder Director of Plai�ning and Developm�nt Sisk Director of � Public [ti�orks Viskovich Assistant City Attorr.ey Kilian � Associate Planner Cowan The Planninb Conur.ission nad a preliminary meeting in t}.ze Confe.renc Room of the City Hall at 7:30 P.T1, There was some discussion of the schedule of ineetings for the balance of November and December of 1973. The Planning Commission next reviewed City Council Resolution No. 3569 and the October 31, 1973 "Detai]_ed Description and Standards of Lar.d Use Designations within the Core Area as approved by the Ci_ty Council - Exhibit A-1". The Planning Commission plai�ned to ask the City Counci.l the rati.onale used in their determinations for the zoning of the core area. At $:00 F.ri, rlayor Inain called the joint meeting to order in �he Council Chamber. The purpose of this meeting was to discuss Kesolution No. 3569. . �r_�89 TtINUTES OF THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/PLANNiNG COMt1ISSI0N MLETING 11/6/73.. Page 2 � Comm. Neliis sLated that she �as very pleased this joint meetin� was raking place af.ter some eleven long m�nths of public hearings on the 1973 Comprehensive General Plan . Stle said the Planning Commission attempted to estahlish the goals of a balanced conmunity, controlled �ro�ath, a gr.een city, diversity, etc: These goals were extracCed from the Goals Report. She next quoted a portion of the ttten Mayor Frolich's message at the t�e�;inning of the Goals Report : "The City Council now ha5 the responsibility to see that these adopted goals get more than lip service, that they are a strong guideline to the develop- ment and implementation of our neur General Plan, and that they continue to be a measuring stick against City policy decisions that aff_e.ct the future of our citizens. � Comm. Nellis said the Ci�y should take a more active part in deter- mining land use; one goal speal:s to a population of 50,000. She felt it was important to review again the adoptied goals of the City. In regard to the regior�al shopping center, the major factor was traffic. Traffic�aise, she felt ttle Vallco Park location �aas somewhat better than rlariani �Iall far the regional centier. The most important f.actor was to come out �aith this moderately intensive, localized use. It ttas been said from ti:ne to time that the Planning Commission dicl not take the fi_scal factor into consideration. She took issue with that statement because that is one of the main reasons ;:-hy she voted for a regiona:L s'r;opping center. The income from this shoppirg center would produce the revenue to achieve some of our objectives. As far as the Town Centex is concerned, Comm. Nel.].is said there is no serious disagreement here; hocaever, slze was surprised to see an alternative for industrial in the Town Center. The Planning �ommission wants to have the Town Center a place for community activities. Moving along Hi.ghway 9, she said there are serious differences of opinion on tlie part of the Planning Commissior_ and City Council. She said ulhat the City Council is �lanning �or t.he west side of Highway 9 tends to ct:ange our goals. As to resid�ntial along Highway 9, she sa�_d therP are aesthetic ways to ha.ndle this successfully. • She was concerned about intensity of land use along I�igh�ti�ay 9. She feels that 16 trip eztds per pe:3k hour is too intense. On the Saich property, Comm. Ne_llis thinks sfie heard something that made sense and that is the designati_on for a parlc site ��ith underlying lo units per acre residential use. Comm. Nellis said tlier.e is a very serious discrepancy between the tllinlcing of tlie Planiiirig Comcnission and ttie City Council. in regard to Stevetis Cr. eek �lvd ., east of Iligtu,�ay 9. 'itie Planning Commission took MINI;TF.S OF THE JOINT CITY GOUTdCIT�/PLAI�;NING COMMISSION MEETING 11/6 CC-189 Page 3 a very strong stand on this in regard to strip commercial. It �sas pointed out there exists 150,000 sq, ft. of strip commercial an� �ith 250,U00 in f_i]_1_ing of stri_p cor.unercial; and if we go L resident ial here we �aill run into some real_ problems c;�ith non- conforming uses. In tisc3l terms, Co�nm. Nellis said it would probably malce sense to retain the existing commer.cial; but on the south side we do noL have �xisting conunercial. and she wondered how the City Council arrived at their decision for commercial ther�. Counci].man Frolich wanted to giv� his understanding of. the treat- ment of Stevens Creek Blvd. Tt1e proposal was thaC the exist:ing uses on Stevens Creek Blvd. �•�ould he zoned in accordance with C-1 or something similar_. The reriaining undeveloped areas and exist- ing uses that woul.d fit into this new kind of zone �aould have similar traf_fic generation restr_ictions as being used on Highway 9. It was proposed tliat tnis be a planned development approach along Stevens Creelc Blvd. Some sort of overall landscaping plan should be established here so i.t L�aill all tiP together. This would get rid of the vi_sual aspects of strip commercial. He sai.d it was also based on L end gen�ration. SoMe types of commerciaJ such as furniCure stores do riot. create the traffic that some other types of commercial do. . . Mayor Ir�vin said there were three primary �oals: 1) The Planni.n g Commission intended to have aesthetic tre�tment �aherever possible on our major streets; 2) The Planning Comriission intended to mitigate strip commercial; and 3) The Planning Conunission intende to keep a low intensity land use. He said the City Council speak to intensity �aith a mix of uses to keep the peak hour trip ends down. The P•layor said the. t�ao major thoroughfares sho�a very severe prob- lems cai_Lh Crossroads ��1. Atternpts to mitigate the. problems fore- seen on the �aest side of Highcaay 9 are being explored . He felt that planned industrial along the easC side of Highway 9 made a very low profile and a nice entrance to the City. Mayor Ircoin said everybody agrees trat the To�an Center must be a very closely controlled development. The reason industrial was added to it was to lceep the door open to innovative ideas. The Mayor said it �oas pointed out very cl.early that the corners at the intersection of Stevens Creek Blvd. and Highway 9 was no place to put a par.k. T'he decision on the south side of Stevens Creek Blvd. �aas made quite quickly, based on present use of the property. He felt there �aere too many inLluences around the undevel_oped properties to allo�a residential use there. CC-1$9 MINUTES OF THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/�Ll1.NN7NG COTI�IISSION r1�.ETING 11/6 Page 4 Comm, ButhE�nui.h said he is stiLl_ concerned witll IIigfi��ay 9, It appears tliat the City Council did not feel residenrial. t��ould be appropriate there. He asked if they fe.lt st.rip comm�rcial and industrial would Ue appropriate. Councilman Jacksan said the Coutic�l evaluated single family residential al_ong Highc,ray 9 negatively. Tiie entire 140 acres �•�ere evaluated negatively as residetit_ial. Tiie City Council did not put a density f:igure on the east si_de of Highoray 9. Mayor Irwin said some of the policy statements �ail.l clear up some of this. Councilman Nieyers said t City Council did not eliminate single family residential along Highway 9 if. the noise and other problems can be mitigated. He said he could visuali.ze industrial a blocic deep along the east side of Highway 9 and residential beliind that. Iie compared it to the type in West Valley Industrial Parl.c. Mayor Irwin added that 50` rrom the curbline ��i11 be iT.i landscaping. Councilman Meyers said the City Council did not ttiink Che Sunn_yvale approach to resi- dentia]. along Highway 9 c�ras the rig,ht �aay to handle it . Comm. Gatto said he appr_eciated ttiis opportunity to get together with the City Council and wished that it could have happened earlier. He said we have �_o finci some basic agreement on ��lnat we are trying to achieve. ln �eneral, he thinks the City Ceuncil approach here is feasible. He sees a development of perfo7-mance standards Lor the Ci.ty. [�ith this, �ae can achieve our goals for Cuper.tino. He said the term "i_ntensity" should be defined. He S�11_C� the use is not as important as what it �enerates. The approach taken allows flexibility and innovation. Comm. Adams said he endorsed C�mm. Nellis' arid Gatto's statements regardin.g goals �nd requirements to see where we are going. He ��aanted to make sure c•�e don't �aalk ourselves into a box. He notel the Pianning Commission initiall_y looked at a shoppi.ng center of 1.3 rnillion sq,uare feet. This was reduced cons�_derably. 'The City Council has established 16 trips per acre as a standar.d. Residenti��l generates about 8 trips per acre. Niayor Irwin said a study is being coilducted at this time as to trip ends at peak hour and what tlii.s really means. Comm. E'�dams said the Flanning Co�r.mission learned that industrial . generates 3 tii;ies what the average residential does, and commerci�l generates 4 timPs as mucti as an average residential area. He suggested we be as restrictive on Stevens Creelc B:Lvd, as on Highway 9. Councilman �Ieyers said to continue designing our highwa;�s for peak hour traffic loads is a waste of land. Secondly, ti� is :Looki.ng at the energy cr-isis and its implicat:ions . It is his opinion that we. �vi11 be seeing some dra�natic changes in i:�ocles of travel.. fie noted tliat along Stevens Creelc Blvd. many of ttie pa.rce:ls are very small. DeveLapme:�t in large, agglomerated center.s is not the i�est in a:11 cases. �igness -is not Uetter=-- ��tliat happens to the ":L:itL guy"? MTNUTES OF T��L JOINT CITY COU�ZC:�I /PLANNING CU��IISSIOi� MrETING ?.1/6 CC-189 Pa�e S Comm. Nellis �.rondered if t,te ar.e suff.ering from "automobil.e syndrome". She feels there should be raom for the "little guy" in Cupertino, but �aondered haw much room. Stie noted the Plannin�; Cornmission acicnotalpdged the exi.sting commercial. Chairmar� 0'Keefe said that as �•re go along tYLe soutll side of Steven.. Creek }3].vd. we must adclress ourselves to i5laney Avenue. He would not lilce to ir�crease the traffic on this residential street. Ne noted that Jack In T�ic Box has purchased the Shell station at Blaney and Stevens Creek Blvd. He would IIOt lilce to see this trer.d expanded. He said a lot of the Hi.�hway 9 traffic is non-si.t generated. We cannot control traffic �,aith zoni.ng alane. Councilman Frolich said that one of the problems in tryin� to plan this City is that we probably have more ]_inear miles of heavy traf fic corridors than most cities irl this Count��. The City Council haci to temper thei_r decisic�ns ���itn concerns of the fiscal aspects . The City Council said the development of transit shoul.d absorb t}ie areas of ignorance in the futur�. Councilman Frolich said the State computer sa}�s that if_ �ti*e don't get the extension of Higll�aay 85 beyond Hi.gh�aay 9 it �a�ll dump more traffi� oi7to High�aay 9. He believes this is not true, Chairman 0`Keefe said he has expressed concern for Blaney Avenue and Stevens Creek Blvd. The Planning Commission felt the automobile woul.d not be as important a n2ode of transportation and perhaps we should help the sm�ll businessman by providin� residential along Stevens Creel� Blvd. To date, parking has been sucti an important factor in developing. In the future, we will end up with an over- flow cf parlcing spaces, Councilman Meyers sai.d the City Council also talked about the larger parcels on tne south side of Stevens Creek Blvd,; tha.t they could be developed similar to that complex along Lawience Express- way, around the Smugglers' Inn restaurant �ohere there i.s residential. Councilman Jackson sa�d Vista del Lago, on Sar�toga Avenue, also has a mix af uses. . Councilman Jackson said he could see some extremely difficult problems among the property o�sners along Steverls Creek Blvd, with phasing in the r.esidential. For instance, he wondered wYiat the future of Boulevard Shopping Center would be if that pr.operty ctiTere zon�d residential. There t�Tould be some suUstantial economic and legal prot�l.e�ns tirith ncnconforming uses, Tlie more the Council went for comrnercial along Stevens Creek Plvd. the liarder it became to put residential zoniiig on the otrer properti_es there. �G-•�g9 MINU'L'ES OF TI�T JO.IN'I' CITY CUUNCIL/PL�'1�'�'NING COI�IMISSIQN P'[F:ETING 11/6 Pagc G Comm. Btithenutti said he agreed �r:i_th tlle City Couticil on ttie Stevens Creek Llvd , decision. Ite would lilce r�omments from the Council on wli.y industrial. � .zncl_uded .in t11e `L'o��rn Center . Tli�� Plannin� Commission Eelt thi_s sliould T�e a unic�ue, pedestrian oriented cortmercial development. Councilman Jackson said this was meant not to rule out this use but to keep it as f1e:�ible as possible. The C:ity C�unc:il talked about a mix. He sees some very fine architecture in the buildin�s in j�'est Valley Inclustrial Parlc . fihey env isian a total. community : residential , commercial, and pertiaps some light indust.rial. Comm. T3uthentith feels the City Council slatement o� industrial in tlie mix for the Town GPnter destroyed the Planning Commission�s concept for the Toi„n Center. Comm. Gatto said the industrial connotation is not what the Planning Co�nmission had in mind . TheS� had in min.d a comr.lu�ity oriented development . �Iayor Ir�ai.n said i_t isn't so much that the Council i�ranted to make s�_ire industrial goes in�o the Town Center , but rather they did tiot �aant to close tile door to industrial r_here, Comm. ilellis does n�t feel that industrial goes along with the Planning Commissioi.'s concept of tlie To�•m Center. If this is an active part of the community, residential. �aorlcs well �•�ith it. Counci_lman Jacicson sasd itirther standar.ds could be added that the in�lustria:l shall_ be �n incidental port:ion of the Town Center.. Councilman Frolich said tliere is the possibil-ity that �:�e have not thought of every possible use her�. The flavor of the discussion on this was that certain uses shouLd not be excluded. ChaiL 0'Keefe agrePd ���ith the Council �s position. He spoke strongly for pedestrian uses over long perivds of time. Councilman Spa��ks was c�u:i_te happy with the input at this me�_�ting. He thinlcs performance star.dards should be the "name �f the game". Tlie. ideas of SO' buLfering and aest.lietics and landscaping shoul.d a11 be included in per�ormance standards. Comm. Buthenutli said the Planni_ng Colrmission is guing to have to look inco their reasons for 5or,ie af tlie dec:.i.sions made. �Ie asked ��hat the � Council sees For recreational/canmie.rci.al use at the southeast corner of Stelling and Homestead 1Zoads. r�ia5or Irwin said the sel:l.ing of sporting goods is one example. Counr_i_lntan Meyers referred to the "Supreme Court" in Sunnyv�le tliat is be:i.ng deve7_oped for p1a_ying squash, etc. That property across j�;olie Road trc�,t ttte Hil_tor. Iiotel is also plann��c� for these types of uses. Comm, i3uthenuth asked why that particu.Lar_ site ��as picic�d tor that parti.cular use. Councilman lacl:s��n said the site acr�ss the streei� is comm`�rc_i.al. There was some discus5ion ab�ut a bocaling alley �;o_ing in there. �ecause of the Iiigh clensity res-idential ar��ncl it, lie :;aca no rea��on for IlOt putt:ing this type zoni.n�; there. MINUTES OF T1IL JOIIe'1: CITY COt1I�ICIL,'1'I.A�NINC� Cb^'i:`'IISSTON rIEi:TING 11/6 CC-1.89 Page 7 Comm. Gatto said tl�at if you zone that wi.th a resLrictive pattern and it is a mix oi this and o�iier uses, and if the mix is developec first you severely restrict ttie market ior the remaining pr.operty. Councilman Sparks said his pitch for recreation here is that in th future we are supposed to have mo�-e Lime for leisure. Perhaps we can have an uncier].ying resident:ial zone here. There f.ollo�aed a discussion about �ti7hether there shoul_d be more j oint meet ings and if so , their f r_ equency . Councilman Frolich said the r.iost un.f_ortunate thing al�out this joint meeting ��ras that it �Jas too bad the �entlelnan who passed out the CCC bulletin ��las not preserit. Comm. Nellis said there is an ir.ibalance in that we are going to be lieavy on the industrial and conli in relation Lo residential. She is in favor of f_1e.�iUility and innovat.ive ideas, but she is afraid of the "red dots". The City needs guidelines. Mayor Irwi said the perforniance stardards and the ordinances will be very importarit . A balanr_ed community spealcs to land uses , tax revenue , and quality of life for :its residents. Tt provides a range of goods and services and living conditions to a var;_ety of people in a mix that is benef i cial to the corcununity . Councilman Frolich said balanced conuntinities are not necessaril}r always the same. Cupertino has a unique si.tu.aLion oi hav:i.ng so much through traffic. He is nor so concerned 2�Gllt per_farmance standards. �1e cannot foresee ail the types of land use� that may come up in the f_uture, ihe City is having some studiesdone prior to drawin� up t}Ze new com.-nercial ordinance . It �aill not ba as unstructured as it appear.s at first glanc�. Councilrnan rl�yers does not believe �ae have gone out of balance to any great extent. Councilman Jackson said in the long run, the input. from the public will result in our having a stron�;er general plan. The Ci.ty Council adjour.ned at this point to an executive session for tlie ptirpose of: discussing ��tage con�r.ols of employees, and the filli_ng of vacancies on the Library Commission. The time �aas 10:20 P.ri. rloved by Corim. Nelli.s, seconded by Comm. Gatto to continue this � put�lic licaring t,o the next regular meetin,. The time was 10:22 r.r1. Moti.on carried, 5-0 T (;C--]_$9 TIINUT.:S OI TfiE J[)itiT CITX CCU�C;:I1,/I�LE1NNf.IvC: t:Q;L�ITSSTUN PII .LZ1�tG 11./6 Y��e $ 1'he City Counci7. meetin�; re�onvenec: irt ttic� Cc�nci.1 Ch; rlber aL 11 :07 P.:t, , as Moved by C;ouilcilman L'i �1 ic'.t and seccn;ieci b}� Ccunci i:.^,3I1 ?�ieyers . �iotic�n carried, 5-0 ;�ovecl. by Counci_lman F- �icti, seconded by Counci_l.rr,��1 "tc�� ers to adj�urn this r.�eet ing t ?;30 P.`i. ezl November 12 , 1973 , in the Library Conf �rec�ce R��OTll ror tllc purnose cf :intervie�viT1� ap;;1_icants for. vacanci�s on the Library Co;�,r,ission. rlotion car_ried, 5-0� iloved by Counci7_mar� Pieyers, st�conded by Ceuncil.man Jackson ta close �hc� pt.lbla�c: hear.ing on Lhe Core �1.rea. T;ation carri�f3 5-0 APP :C�JI1D : �S� T'� ].i: i': �i"C+1 ?i�j.Jcr, C;i'.;� cf C:up�:? —_ �^TTES'�: / :.5 / rr� c2 . �, . n y+� c "� Ci_ty C:1e;.°?:. ~