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ifli�IUTES OF TE;E ADJOII:�NED� ?Z�;�;UI,rtR ^tt:ETI'_�IG 0� 1�IF, i'L�`��1NING CO`T`iISSIO
HELD UN �1�Y 3, 1973 , IN T:iE COUNC 1T CHA'�T`3F.K, CITY HALL �
CUc 1.P.TI1:rJ , CALIrOR:�1IA
SALUTE TO THE FLAG
The meeting was opened. at 7:34 P.M, by Cl�air,•�an �uthenuth.
ROLL CALL
Comr.l, presenC: AdaYns, Gatto, Nellis, 0'Ke2f=�, Chair?�an Buthenuth
Co;ru�n. absent : None
Staff present; D_rector of Planninr, and Pevelop:;tent Sisk
Assistant City Attorney Terry •
Assaciate Plauner Ca�.a.z
Economic Conssltants �resent: Bob Arnold
S teve Levy
PUBLrC HEARINGS: �
1. CITY OF CUPERTINO: Public Hearing to consider 1973
Corlprehensive General Plan.
a. Consideraticn of S.S acres of �ropert,� located adjacent Area �E5
to and nort'rierly of Stevens Creek �oulevard approxitnately
100 feet east of Phar La� Dr2ve - Area No. 5.
There was a brief resu�e of the format being used �_r. discus�inQ Neighbozhood
the various vacant properties within Cugertino . At this 'tir.le, ir.ipact� of
emphasis is oeing placed on neiohborhood i of residentia]_ residential
alternatives. At the end of this series of discussions, the i�::pacts bein�
consul.tants will complete the study ��ith a citrcaide poiut of vie�v. studi�d no�a
Area ,�t5 w2s identified on tne r.tap by the Plannin� Director. It is Pronertv o���.ex
relativel� vac.ar.t proaert; at the present ti�-.e. Ch�.irm_an vuth �IlUt not �resent',
asked if rh� property ot7ner ..as in the audience. The Director �ut t.TaG
said the oc•_�ner had indicated on the telephon� t�iat he �7ould not �e not�.fied
preser.� at this meetin� .
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R1-7.5 as one Comm. 0`Keefe proposed R1--7.5 as one alternative, to conform with the
alternative �exi.sting neigliborhood.
FD Residential Comm. Nellis �ou1d also like to consider a plann�d developnent resi--
8-10 units per ldential use here. Comm, Adams agr�ed, since there are only two •
acre la.ccesses to this property. Corim. Gatto felt that 8- 10 units per
acre would be a good dansit;� here.
Developer i_n Mr. rlorton Rhein, 5488 Dent, San Jose, representing the Lake and Land
concert �,aith Development Company, said they were willing to conform to the Plannin�
the alternatives Comr,tission's alternatives for this property.
Area ��9 b. Consideration of 12.7 acres of property located within the
soLtheast quadrant of the inter_section of Scenic Blvd, and
Stevens Creek Blvd. - Area No. 9
This area The area was identified on the map by the Planiling Director. He said
purtially � n it is predor.tinently , to the west , County R1-10 siiigle f a*nily zoning .
flood plain There is R1-7.5 zoning alon� Phar Lap Drive. Tnis area :aas next shown
i:� relation to the fluod plair_.
No.liability Chairman Buthenuth asked what tr.e City�s liability is for issuing
build�ng permits in a flood plain. The Assistant City Attorney said
there woulc� be no liability. The underlying rationale of �ne courts
is to restrict or lira:Lt developMent of a flood plain for the health,
safety anci welfare of the people. .
:?lacicbe Farm Co�m. Ne11is a�ked iL this area was indicated as a poss�bilit;� fcr
proposed open an open space area. She was told tne onen space planred for this
sgace area was the Blackberry Farm area.
Stocklmeir �ir. Louis Stocklmeir, 22120 Stevens Creek Blvd, said he tias property
property , west of Scenic Blvd. and progerty north of Stevens Creek Blvd.
T?�e Planning Director sai� only Mr. Stocklmeir's home site is within
� the property under discussion at this meeting. Chairman Buthc.nuth
said he could a�so liscuss his 5000 sq. ft. triangle, co:mnercially .
zoned property on Stevens Creek Blvd.
True flood plain '�1r. Stocklmeir said rhe F1ood Control District should have done
should be geolo�ical stt_idies of �he arza here to historically locate tiie true .
st:ucii�d f:lood pl.ain. I�e said t:e Oai: D`11 I�arms area has a lo�aer e_le•aation than
his property and it has withstood this past winrer, which was an
exc.epti.or_a11y rainq season. •
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i�Ir. Stocklrneir said he has been consi�er�n�; developin� a sub- S3.ngle family
division on ?�is property a�ljoining Iilacl:berry F'arm. T1any proposals �e�,�1opment
h�ve been considerc�d. 'Che portior. zmmediatel.y eas� of 5cenic proposed for
Drive and west of ��ie �lood plain line is pr.esently zoned P.1-7.5 property .
and the are,a desi�nated f.lood plain is R1-10,000. He has con- ad�oining
sidered pr.oposa]_s for a�;�l.f course, single family homes anci a $lackberry I'arm
cluster develapment. He believes singl.e fa�x�.ly homes in the
$50,0�0 to $65,00� range taould be the most compatible here.
He said he �aould like tn get a concessionax-y ag�eemen�_ on the
flood I.>l.ain matter. He said he woulc� lik� to hold �this portic,n
op en. �
In regard �Co Mr. Stocl:lmeir's property to ±�he t�rest of Stevens
Creek �lvd. which extends to Carmen Road and border.s 5cenic
Blvd., Mr. Stocklmeix said this propertiy was.zoned for multiples
some years ago in an agreement with the ��ityr I� is approximately
1.5 acres. The property-across Stevens Creek i31vd. is zoned
c�mmerGial. and contains approximately °000 sq. ft. He feels that
property coulc� serve a commetcial purpose. The access would be
from Cupertino Road, not Si:evr-:ns Creek B1vd. �
There followed a discussi�on o� Che Stevens Creek Plan Line. IIe S�ockl.meir
answer��i Conun. Nell.is that zf we follow the plan line prdpose� by coir.cnerci.al
rir. S�ockl.nieir i� ti�i�.l oblitera�e his c�nt��►`rcial praperty e�tirel;,�. property
He said he has a counter proposal to offer �o th� City: He also
has a parc�l across Cupertino Road from his commercial property
that he may consider residenti�l or he may wish to use it as
parking fQr the commercia]. property across �Che street.
Mr. Bert Avery, Av�ry Construction Company of_ rlountain �riew, said Avery apartment
he is the owner and dev�lopex of the Glenview Apa.rtment Complex co��lex pr.oposal
- across from lle Anza. He said if access is avail.able to Stevens
Creek Blv�. from Mr. Stockl.meir's pro�erty he would like to pro-
pose an apartment coinplex similar to Glenviek�. The iso].ation and
the shape of the 1ot lends itself to an apartment complex. The
topography is quit.e changeabl.e.. some 40` difference in grade
across the proper�y. It is l�rge enougli so something innovative
can be done with it. I�e f eels the unique, shielded position of
this proper.ty is des_rable for his proposal. Z'he property is too
steep to lend itsel.f to a single iarail.y development. He is thinlc-
ing in. terms of 16 units per acre, the same as Gl�nview.
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Comm. Nc:].lis asked the staff what imgroveinents were made by the Fl.00d plain need
flood plain wher. Uak Dell ��as put in. The answer F�as: "None." study
Thp Plannin.g Direcror said this whole matter of flood plain will
have to �be studied.
Alternatives t�tius far: r�sidential, single family '
R1-10
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Chaizman Buthenuth said we have heard from residents in Tionta Vista arza
who wou�ld like to Iiave this remain single famil; .
12 units per Co�nm. Gatto said Cwo factors �hauld be considered: I) The golf ccurse
acre ad�acent to this property obv�.ously will remain pertnanent open space; and
� 2) The inceiztive motive to reCain the flood plain. He added that the
terrain and shape of t]�e property make it hard �:o design a typical
subdivision her.e. He believes 12 units per acre is a logical alternative
• to be considered.
open space Comm. Ne11.is did n�t believe this should be a typical subdivision.
alt�rnative She believes 12 units per acre would be too high. A.n impnrtant factor
and to cousic�er hsze is ��siden[ial property below the dam could be very
3 unit��per �a�$erous, in case of an earthqualce. She would iike one alternative
acre clustered her� i:o ue open �pace.. She would also like to consider 3 units per
acre•clustered.
Comm. 0'Keefe did not feel that 16 units per acr.e would be compatible
with Che area.
Comm. Adams asked if all the traffic would be funnelec� out 5cenic
BJvd, to Stevens Creek B1.vd.
Low cost Cor.�.�i. .Adams �aid Lhat if_ tae are considering lo�y c�st h�ausing, this mig�it
!�ousing be a place to have it. Com�u, 0'Keefe said tot�r incoMe houses raould need
bectet access to services. Com.m. Adams pointed �ut that th:is pro�erty
is an15T about 4 nr 5 bl.ocks from the Monta Vista cammercial area.
C,lose Co park Comm. U'Keef� observed that this property does tiave proximity to Ste��ens
:: school Creek �'ark anci St�z�ens Cr.eek Schonl. IC does h� ve certain unique -
tactor.s.
R3-16 Comm. A�am� said he would have .less objections to �� high density develop-
ment h�:re be.cause of it's remoteness. R3-16 was also agreeable to
Chairman Iiuthenuth.
SLocklmeir's ` �r. ii�nuel Gonzalet,, 102.3b Scenic Bl�rd., sa.id he o�ans the prop�r�y at
n�ighbor's �-he sauth end of the Stocklr�eir orchard. Iie is concerned that he
c��an�nts ma� be �ox�d in :if this go�:s to apartments because his L-shaped lot
just hss a 28' wide str.ip go:ing to Scer.ic F51vd. 7'here is Lhe poss�bi7.ir_y
he may gurcha�e som? additional property from I�r. Stock:lma:ir,
�a.rthquakes Mr. Stociclmeir wanted Cc discuss Comm. Iv`elli5' poinY_ about the matter
� of ear.thquakes. He said he was app�inted t�o �t.udy the effect of earthqu�kes
:�n 5anta 13arbara, so 11� t�el.ieves he is qualified. Ther.e is one de��d
� i<i�s7.t :i_�ne :i.n S�averis Creelc. He ,is. well acquainted w�ih the tffects
" Uf t:tze SanAndreas qual:.e �_n 1906, H�� said the dam is vuJ_neraUl� to
. � ear.t'n�uake �ateral �u�ve�ncn�. HQ said ��� have 1 ��I��l1SRI1Cl s of people
� iz.vi:�g below the clams iri �anta C1aYa tiG:�.l_ley anc�t i�e is concernecl about
(:heir weifare. Mr. RY�ci.n said that r:r.itii we get r:i veriti.ed report frorr�
the Geo�ogical St�i��y pF�o.ple no firm deci:;ion shot�l.cl be made. He believes
t.Iie hi�li clensity c�n.:�ide;.ati.on sli�ul.d bc: kE�pt. opeti. C�iu:�l. Ne1_l�_s said
tl�at Lhe 3 alternativ�s are: 1) apen space,; Z) �?irE:' tlalyr:� p�r acre
c�.ustered; ancl 3) mu:tti�:>le J.2 t.nits per GcLe.
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r. � Considerat�on of 11 .6 acj-es of k� l�acated at the Area �-`1C�
e.aste tet�ninus o1 '_?��I_:n Av..i�.u�� -- Are�u No � 10.
T�iis pYCpert;- presently c��annci by `r;�ard Cru.��p anri Assoc�.��Ce� ,�aas Id.er:t7_f� cat=:.c�:
^o;_r_ted out on cne r:1��F.� b�� the 1'lannin;� Dircctor. He s�zd th.e. of r�'operty
r.lajer�_ty oi these Ll.b acres are i��t :rithi.n tYle C�_tv l�_�r.its,
al.thou�h they are adjo�.a:in€ the natur.al f:lood �lain are4.
MY . �Z�i�' CLll-':l� 9 pOX h��+ 3 CLlzi�'Y'� :.I10 � �'�'_p:"E:SEi1tE;:1 �va rCi C}'11TIli� .?.1"tC� Tl'� :�.' DYO��O:>cll �. _�
��SSOC1c1�E'S i3t `ti!1-S P.l°Ef=111 `Ti12)' ±:OiE'.S:'_� 'r(,'S1Cl�i1�13� 1I5� OIl t".11�.5 LC,J2)" :i2IISit}'
�YOnE:Y �` �r�l°C.' c1T'C' C,Uri,`::�(�E'Y:'.T1` �F6 ll�?1tS �7� tnL: �;PI 3C: E'. iI1 8.
cluster raY_h�r than the or�.gir�a]_ p�on�saJ_ ior 6� unit�. D:ie to •
the untimely death of T�ard Crump, t:nE� or.;�ina1 t^r�t_at.�ve n_a.�� ,
expired and ttiey are just r.o,v pr_epar^ci to c�nssideL develop?,_��t.
pl�ns for thi.s propF�rty . Acce.ss to tiz�s propez t}� is from Scenic
Blvd.
Comm. ivell. c�as assured that this property ��s not �_n our op�ri
space plan to connect ��rith the lierse F:anch.
Mr. Rich Olit�er, oi Divicl�nd Industr_ies, ans;:•�_rf��. Coinm, 0'Keefe The :�ror•osal.
t�a t the appl_. cat ion 1s b_�s ?_ca�.ly � er 3-�e•3ro. �-� , 2-:.�atti ho�es ,
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geared to narr-:ed La-r:�1. �.es with possi_bly one ci1i1_�i, Triey :vould
like to lz3ve coiis�clered the existin�; zonin� oi 5.5 ar�d 4/acre �
as alternatives. This is i�ot i.�z tt.lc £lood �1a �n, except po�sibsy
the lc�:ver tip. They �aoul.d conszder th�.s port:icn for recreati.onal
use.
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Conur;. �'Keefe com;�,�r.ted Lhat this is certainly an �deal site �a�_th
parks, open space, and access to ele�n�n_ta�y and junior h�gh
schools. It �aauld appeal to the ycunQ f'amily.
ResidenCi.al alternative for Area No. 10 = 4 Fer acre. 4/acre
A,°e� rE10 a1.t .
d. Consideration of 190 acres af �r.opzrty located on
e�ther side of Saratoga-Sunr.}-vale Road bet:��een Ho��estead
P.oad a�1d Alves Brive - Area No . 12. Area ;r`12
7'1?.e PlunninU D_i_rector located the nL:o?e en the :�.ap. It
i.nvolves boti� the e.a_st ar.d �aest si.cle of Sarato�;a-St?nnyval.e Roa.d.
' mh� re ? s an apprcved PD on the �.est: side , P.notiie ite^� involved
on the caestnrly �ide %s �n assQ:�s�.F>nt d:�stri_ct a
The o:aner oF the donut siiop �aid he ha�, been i�� bt�siness h�re i or F.a..:;t r; �i� ^. -,`9
lfi VE?3T'S �3i:d �lE'_ caant C1 t0 kno,•r 4J�7�3t t�1G Clt�'t S r�.c�i1S 1rEy' tt18L �vll.l �Ilt?.'i <1 _Tl aU�y �:'.7C'
affecr h;.:1, Tiie Y�.ar.nin�; Dir�ctor sa�_d t:�e r..roperties along the
east side or Saratcga•�-�iu��n�r�ale Road ar: beir��; h:�ld in ?beyance
unti.i completion ot ihe �Ft;era.l plan.
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�o residential Chr.�ir��an E�utl��enuth as?c��d t1�e prok,ert�� �:aner ;:hat type r=_:;_i.dential u;e
fnr clonut �;hop he could cn.v_isas;e for h:i.5 pr_operty si it slt.^.,u1.d go to r.esic?ential.
:�Y:OL�+?.:C��/ �j11� C10Illlt r'�10� OW11E.'r .,�.�C� �lE? �:; i10t: 1T1L:E_TP.5tc'C� J.Il �I2y t�rE'. r?� T"C'.�l_Cj:i1t::Li�1.
� on Saratoga-Suiinyvale Rnad .
�o residential Mr. Lloyd Pav.�so said he n�s 9Q' frontage on Saratoga->unnyvaie Re�?d
il��� �ZL�Il27�c� �d j=.cent t0 tr'i2 C�OIlU� SiiOr. �ie 1_S I?Ot 1T1t2i�St� in teS1.�P_Il�lal. llS2
of his property.
'�aria�li rep's i�ir. Vic Riches, of P,iches Research, Economists and La.nd Pla��ners, sa�_d
statt�:nents tze was rep the ?�'ariani pr.o1�rty. F?e - 'r_evieTaed 'n.is tiles of
, the past C�a�lve y:�ar_s reg:ird;_ng the 'Iariani pLoperty. ln .I_963 the
P1ar�riing Co�nmi.ssioii r`co�u�iended r_�.� �'[ariani peonle come in and aek f_or
PD zon�ng. A cempendiiir;l z��n:�n>; r.iaps, dat�d 1969, clearly sho;as a11
66 to 7U acres de•.:igr.ed aa� sho- to be co?��r:ercial. ;?e said the
'�ar_ �an� M��LI brochure �•:as distr�bu�ed throu;' • �.t: Cuoertino an_. Lhe
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Cozinty, Si O[+;1Tlg r.F12�.0 proposal., i�lUCi t1i:12 E?t�0�'t ci7(� I�OTIeV �135 been
�penC 211 7I.c_IIriiil` tt'i'LS COII'.TR�.'YC'_�ll �jE'.VE.'1OnTi1E.'11L. rJE?O�iBtl^Il are �OJ.?7�?
o� ;v�ith �.�.ior shcps ar_ t'.zis time. Lafco and r.e��h�ori_n� jurisdictions
a.11 �za;�e used ttie comT�ercia� fra_=�� oz reference :iri �F�.,;;?ra to th�s
�'_•'Ure'Yty . ��� S31t1 t���,t hav r'. 4?1VE'_11 T10 �12Cllgil.� LO Y'251�:'T11=1a� :,iSe
o{ this property.
���'�1:�?E'_Y'C�E.l l �1r ��Tl rT.'�Tl°T� Of �.L?"lfr'r P�Or�EY�tiE'.S� ��aY�itO�u sa_'td t :E..' t�.'�1;= rP��'2SF_11t1i1�
;.�sc u,,e 'tierP �� ia��ily ��,:�th property adjo�_ri.�ng the ;°�ariani prope He helieves the
� best �ise for th`se a acres is co-,��:er.cial . It is surr��ur.�:'e� by
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Frese:�t zon-�_r�g ;_s R3--.�_6 �,nd R.1-l_�, :�nd ttle �r v!)PL ty r�;nt r.�.oT•� ;_s ;_�i sub-
�7�3TS�:I1S1 St�1:1C1!Ii:tli"ZL llSE. lt iS �,"P_Y'�' �)OS�IDLP_ t�12 CiCilLir :i�17� �i1C�
Pavzso anci th_�s p:co.pert;- co:i? :i co:nbin� �,�it:�: a ccr 3evel^� �.�:�nt .
T�:,is is �,�ery close tc� t'ie huh of the Cit��. ;��fi°. Pav�_s� G<��_d his
�ro_�t�rty nas ocen cc�;:?:�e.rci.a= sirice 1�11; he cr u�}:ier a aor.-
c���f ormin� ��s�: per�nit .
. ''�r. Raa:�dy F�1k, 1G135 ��_�:.T,2r_en, C��rertin�, sa:id iie 'nas .� r>:�.ece oi
;�YOt}E'_Y'ty OTl `'��i� e�i �iTl��.l1 I�1:1.V� �?i.1Cj S��.Y'3tOU�i--Stl'=�I;y'Vd1P �t���t , 1 �_.� :10.
i_nterested i.n resid�nt:�a1 u��e of his ,.rop
'�r. Dwi;;ht Dtirkee has p� c�1 S�u� R.oad r_;n the -�,est
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Chairman Butlienuth as!:e�l if: th�; .: tias a�Lv u,�e other ti.an com�:erc�.a
o�, this prot�ert-y . ;�r. D�:r�.ee :a:i.d tllere .��as not. rIe :=�.zd fihz� e
is no �_se po7lut��n here; t:i;_.a i:� �c, rlac� ror. '.oT!,:�s anymor.e.
;�� believes th� Ci_t�- ot Cu�_�exti_no is forci�g Li�em out �� tiieir
ho^:es .
- Dr. J. F. B:'o���n, 20958 Peppe:tree Lar.�, sa_�d �;e and ti�s neighbo.r.s Costti too n��!
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cil"P_ _1.i.VO1.VGC� i_Il S CO?.^.i;l�'T'Ci3� C�'Vc^_i0�1i:i�-i1r �2S"-Ci O:1 Stic.�. � iJl" T°�=t E:I1t_=:i
i_no S�.ratoga-Sunnyvale Road. Phas� I LID is r.lr. eady tak�ng place .
Bandley Drive is alreadv under cons T��e 8.7 acres
�djoining Durkee ground has a nice agricot orchard oxi it, but .
t:e�• can`t continue tn�s use oecause oi the road cutt.�nv throuK.h
the property :i� t�el.=ieves this rroperty i� outpriced for any
type resident_�_al use. There is coT��^.ercial u�•�.�;e aJ_1 alvng �
Highoray 9. Ttiose in business aiong t�ere, �•.ouid �.:_lce to see
Saratoga--Sunnyvale Road i-:proved. Th�s is a:. entrance to the C�ty
Tne street im�rovements are costing :auc�:zn�re than est-mated, to
satisry aesthetics and the recuir.e�lents af. a hig�-class, commerc�a
develop�:ent ,
Chairman Buthenuth asked if he �:-ou1d consider officas or i��ustrza 0: fice:= ceuld
� use. Dr. Brown said he �aould consider ��f�ces, but the cests �c�ti= be cor_si�:areci
are above ir.dustrial p�ssib�lity. �
�1r. Pache�o, 20320 Hil?�ride D«ve, Saratoga, sa.id he cvas repre- Tax�s are
senting tt�,e Redrigue: property, and i�as been �.nvolved �:�ith this �roh
property since 1.962. FIe sa�d these peoYle have r:ade a commit�ent
to the City and to the County Assessor. Taxes are �rohibitive.
Thev don�ted .6 acre to the City ior ��alle;� Grean Dri.ve. He said
it is very difficult to think abottt anythin� other than co?�mercial
zoning her_e. They presently are �aor�:ing on a prop�sal for a
restaurant, lar�e store, financi.al lendin� institutions and so�:e
fr.ee-standing stores. Thi�s area represents tize �ate°aay to Cuper-
tino. It also represer�ts the gateway to S�ratoga, ?�`onte Serzno
and Los Gatos. They are strivi_n; for an integrated develop:r�ent on
their property.
Mr. Gary Stolces said there is no corRnarison between the Vallco Assess:^.ent too
Park and this ass�ssment district in�regard to the costs these high for
, property owners must bear. He said thex e �s a lot of industr ial industrial use
property pou can r�ove onto that does not cost anywhere near as
rauch as it c�=ould here.
tir, No�r Bil.lat�ralla, reprPSen�in� property o�•mers of four acres F.�r and noise
southwest o£ the prouosed Lazaneo Drive, said we r�ust cons_der the pollution
reality of the :�ituat�on and �easi.Uility of alternatives. He
agreed tnat the dol.lar investr�e.nt here makes o*_her thati co�imerc�?1.
use imposs�ble. He said air and noise pollution are very serious
and can cause sccial problems.
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�'C--94 MINUTF.S OF THE ADJ�URNED PLANNItiG COrTNIISSION ��ETING M1�X 3, I97�
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:upertino Mr. Itsuo Uenaka, 1S449 Via �ladrona C�urt, Saratoga, saicl the Cupertino
_:�:rsery Nursery on Sarato�a--Sunnyvale Road was staYted some 2S y2ars ago�as
` a small concern. T_i.ey have ;rcj�,�n a��d developed as ttie City has grown
and developed. Last fall they were invited to joint Assessment
District ��2, and came to the City to as'�. for. PD zcnin� with corimercial
' use. He said they plan to contznue their business �.�ith o.r without
� Mariani Mall.
�e�arks of a Mrs. Alma Dippel said she is a consumer, not a land owner. She i.s
consumer, not concerned about the tra�f ic and pollution on Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road.
a deveZoper ;,lith r,zore comtnercial it �aill get worse. In develoring these conunercial
� pro�erties, the developers have a�responsibi.l_ity to help �olve some of
the pr'oble�.�s they are causing. She urged that one conditicn of ttieir
development should be to solve the problem of traific.
Vested ri;hts Comm. Nellis asked the Cit;� Attorney �ahat constitutes a cori,
to zoning. The Assistant City Attorney anst��ere�i that this has to do
�aitii the area of vested rig,.ts. The property o��mer does not have v�sted
rights until a bui_Lding per�it is issued and a �ubstantial ar•.�.�unt eF
the development has been cnnstructed, There are no cases, to his
knoz�ledge, where participation in a 1oca1 iTnnroveme�t district gives -
the ;�roper*yo uwner vested rights.
�3 un.irs/acre Com;n. CTatto said the points brought cut by the peoale at �h?s z�?.eetin�
-�or� 190 ac:.'°s are �Jel� takeri. However ,�he rlannin�, C �mm�ss:icn needs to sttidy
. 1500 living alternatives in case the co�mercial developnent does not reac�i fruition.
�1iT=�tS 111 i.l`e `rilE_'V need t0 i�riOCJ C4113t t13DPf?I1S CO i.T_'�tt 1C � SC1:001 S y �3L"ICS � etC .�
�� tire 190 acres �z the propert; stiould �o res. T.ie_re are ;: a number of
diverse property c�,mers here, and •he su�.ge.:�ted an overall 8 ti�iits per
ac.re �or all 19U acres, giving 15QC living ur.�_ts here. Comm, Nellis
a,�r�� _d ttlat this si�.cu.lcl� b2 one alternative, but not r:ecessarily as a
� :in �nu� .
.� ��� =is `� C_��n,�., 0'Keefe said he would consider 8i acr.e as m:_ni-:�um. The history of
��.iled for t��e us�g.a_ of_ th�_s ai:ea leads h�ir- to hel;_eve a r..�_� oL �o.K�.e '.{ind is
� indicat�d. This is i.o cor:.��_t.� cn t'�e part o� the cor�:r,�rc:ial, but
on1;. data to oe sttic�ied by t�le co� sultants.
Com�, i�Tel� is su�t;�sted 4/acre and 12/ncre shoul.d �lso. �e 5tud.ied, far
comparison. Mr . Levy said he �ti°ou]_d �;� ;_nter�:�ted in ?-.��� in� ?��-.ree
resident�a=L alternatives to censider here. it ;����!�id be irnp��rtant to
specii:}� the kincl c�f u1iits,
;�1 '` 4/<�cr� and Or.e a:lte : Iialf in Rl ta:� tY: 4 urits per acre and
�:3 � 12;'acc-e :;a.l_£ i.n R3 a� 12 �zn i_t.� n�r acr��
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M:f i'dti I T;� OF T1Ii: !1T'JvliRN;;L 7' �. �.:�ivl.; �G � �. i'`iI ``� I.O�v .,'LTIN� �L�`�° 3, ] 9� 3 FC-9!�
' P�ue <;
Comm. Arla�:ls sa�_d �hat if tht: ea:,i s.ide ar Sarato;a-Sui7nyvale Road R��s�der�t:;_al c�i�
idC''YE.' t:0 fi0 �>lI1�J E? i:c�.i:;1�.y �1�7C:it?;> ti1F'_�' '':�O:iiCl }�E CO:iI':)c`1t. i?:I.G' 1J1t�1 tiC E.'<l`�l : 1Q�'' pf �.�-'t
�xisti.�_n�, nei�,hborlioc�d �_n tli;.t area. Oc1 t.iZe ;�e;�t s�_de, there -:oul�3
be .��..ore ir.lnact becau �e Lher. e. =i_;> � lat_ ni co:f,,,l°rc��.al there no�r.
C;omrr.. 0'�;ee�e cor�rnc�nted t�at =n ��rder to dF�v�1c: th;s P.l it woUld Un�_ 'ue pl.an
havc to be develo�ed :_n a un �•�ay because of the �;reat eost of :zeec;_e;t
t�ip land . �
11r. nii"I701.� dS1:E�Cj th2 t�1.alilllTl� C�Oli2�1' SS1_.'_:11°� � t:) COI1SidE�'7' CJj10 tiOL1G �r:�'O �C.�iG01.� CT
car e that thi.s goes r. es:�c� eizt �_z1 . C�T_r�i, (�'?:eef e sa�d tl�.ere a:-� tl�cu::Iit .
peopl.e who �aou_'•.d 1_ike to retaii: a quiet , suhtirban t��ne environ�.ei�t
Other ,�aould l:.ke to see t.his c'ievelo��ed co�:�tercial to xr,ene� ate
tax revenue. Co��.i:::�. Neilis sa.=d it h�� to do -:�th t.he cl�aract��:-
of tt�e Ci-ty as a cTn�l_e. Input � resi_dential ���o��:ld increa: e t:h.�
school populati«n; co��mercial �.�ould ��nerate no�:�e and traific.
Comn . Gattc sa_.d there -•�ould be a rippl.e. ef i ect en t.he nei�nborhoc �
to the east ; i.. e., the lar�;�r the develcp:nen.t , t,zc� �; reater iz-:r ac*_ Ri ;;��1e erf_ �ct
on tize ne�ghborhood and t'r,� rreater rad.i_us at� ected.
C�mm. 0'Keefe asked ii ther�� s be an �_ncentive �.,_ ih ���ent Inc_nt�ve neccied
' re�idential �ahere tiiere are 1�;-esently viable busii�e-�e� tlia� cut�la
be urgra�ed. He fel_L L :.-ould be. no inc.ent�_ve to improve *�1e
urea. Th� npi.gnborl ;.ao�,�ld re�ain r,robably the sa;:�.e :��t� e, on
tl ot:.ez liand, tr:e �erier�:�"1 ar�a .�7aL�ld be upzraded if given an i
incent �_ve .
A iad}� in the audier.ce, who did not ide�ti.f�� her:�e� f, said. tk�e Neitne� resi.de�:-
community is not ful�.y represented at t':ia_� r.eeti_i:, becau�e ±.Yley t;_ai i�o�
received no nc�tice. Thev dori't Caant mo:-e tra�ric cenerated. �ii�� co::s��_ercia�_
said sh� can`t see. this area as either residential or con.?nerc�41. suitabl� here
Mr. Jerry Fitz�erald, )_019i �;orth lllaney Avenue, said ir_ i.s not �conc;m;_cs dict,3�:
realistic to of.fer these property o,ane 4, 8, 12 or even i(� t���.its o�he� thar�
per acre, He stated t:nat � �r�ll never see residential on thi_s res:d`�tia]_ use
property because of econor.iic:� . At 30 tcf 40 units per acre , you
might get a response. The prop�r_iy r.uns about $20,000 per acre. �
P•1r. Arnvld answered Ger:i.*�. Ivell?_s that w1�en �the consultants revie.�� Eccnomic
this th�y definitely take econo�::c teas:iuility into car�sider.aticn. Leasirilitv
There could be a very serious legal problen� relatzve to the ta,_es ��ill be studAed
pecple have been paying on thei_r properties for the past se•aeral
years.
Mr. Riches caanted to pcint out that this 3rea has already been �
comi��e:r-c.i.al . rIe said no house in thi� C:.ty r,ays it5 �-�ay to the
sci�aol. tiistrict.
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_v_91� `1I:dUTES UF THE �1DJOURNED I'LP.NNI:dG CG,�TI�SION i1�ETIPdG MAX 3, 1973
�aze 1Q �
��:.� ci.al to Coi�un. Adams sazd �hat points �:ade during the last three hours on this
�__ :• on the prorerty have been ��,�e11 taken. l�o�a ;a� could put a"Bel A;_re" rc�sidential
- �st s�.de ��f s�ct�on alor?g Saratoga-.=�}nnyvale R�ad .is ha;.d to envisage. You ar� iLot
:�a �oi;z� to see the cor��;.erc�al on the ��est side ot Sarata:,a-Sunntn�ale �cad
.,un.1� Ro�d go a��ay. He questioned ;ahether. or not. the t'�.cee resid�ntial al*�rii.�tives
• fer t'.zis area are even �.�orth erhi]_e consider:�n� IIe �aould like to
. consider half in cer2�erciaJ. and haif at 16i �.cre as a stnr.ting point f.or
discuss�on. This brin�;s us back to the ori�i_r.al 8/acre propcsed by
Comsn. Gatto .
Re�ident�al �Sr. Gary Stolces a� �,�h�n the Y�anning Comm�_ssion has hearings scheduled
�=ter:z:�tives fc�r residential a1_ten.a�ives in V�11co Park. Chair�nan Puthenuth said
=�r �'_illco tark there may 'o� sor.me areas in Vallco Par.ic that could be considered for
residential and asked the staff to schedul.e thi5.
Zi & R_3 foi �ievc�d by Cemnz. Ga�to , seconded by Cc�n�an. Ada_-:s to onl�- consider ane
=re� 12 cor.ibir�ed alternati�re �or Ar�a No. 12: H,�lf to� Rl zasi;t�ntia� an�
half for R3 a,arement-type develo��-�ent.
?•��tzon carried, 5--0
� Chair:�an BuY_h2nuth cal_l�d a zecess at 11:27 ?'.�`i, TLic� ::e=�r�i�? L�co��:�;.=r.aci
� ar_ li :33 P .�i.
e. Cons:idarat�_oz� o� 5�cre:.; ef ���o;�e l;:�ated ��:it��:.ri tLe
� so�atl�east ouadranr of t'_re a_i�i_ersect � cn �f Pala :��_s �_a R�ad
_`_rea > and Stevens Creek _Elvd . - ^:� ea ?`v'o , 8 ,
Discussion:� of Ar,n�s �3 and 21 �aere co-r_I�ined .
` t, Consi.deration ot 24.4 acres lorated ���;thi.n_ ti}e :���r�h�•?est, ttie
nort'.east �r,d �l�e so�.it!i.ea::��- corn�r o?: i:h� inte ot
•-'"�a �l F�o _hill �lvd . and Ste�nns Creek ��:i_vs. -� Area �To . 71.
__��� propeL ry� =�rVas S and 7_1 ��rer� iocateu on tl�e .��aT�, Atto cn� ?:c h t��� G. .�«n=���T1
,_�: Ci.t.;� ._� , s-i;d he �aas represenr_i_nq t?ze ��rrt�erty or�rrier of t.��� T� �z ",c �.st c_or�;.er
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I'age 11
?�ir.. Ivoar Pil1Z4�all.a ss.i.d h-i.; �.zLex•e,>t :i.� i.iz liLc:r� ,��:'l east �f Lher ,
Coir�_��e7-c i a1
Mobil st� cioi�, at t?�e soutl.��r,st r.oin�:��:. 11� ciski:d fo a aefinit:ion needed :in
of th�: ��.>orcl "via��:l�:". Coin�n. :�`t��_c�c� sa:i_d hi.; deLiri�_ticn. woirl_d. Le Area r�2I
sameti�ir�s; t?iat �unct�_crs f.�r i:h�� co�.�im!�nity; sr�mc.,t.h.;.nt; tl�.at ;oould
l�e an. i.m�>rov��m� �t� , ;�i�°, L�? ].1.�:t �.a stres.,ed r_he po�i.nt of the
s�ria�..s �>oc:i_��3_ ej=f�c�t:; c�f: �z;�i�c a;:d ai:� �o]_ltitivn. IIe be]_iev�c�:�
thr�r. e i.s a ne:ecl foA� thc� f ive ,_ic7��.s pj-e.>c��� �"�.y •r..oned cu�run�re:i.��.l. t�o
service tl�� ar.eae
rTr. C,hris l_,ou�l�].in, I.os E�lto ;, sai;1 ]ie rE�presented a s7�al� piece Coir�.�ler,�ial
of prof>>:rt�y con�_i.:ti.iig o� on�. acre an3 tohi-cli J-/3 of it 13as bec�z� needed in th�
dec?icate� ta ��:e City. Tie. i:ew�s the �n.ti_rc: va.cant area s}�oul�� b� area
inte�;r.ate.u. H�: feels thi5 is a b�od �-�re.a for comam��rcia7., basc�d on
Cl�e Cat:holid �.t��ix-cl� p:-c�perty nropo: <d de�,°ul.opn;ent.
Mr.. Dan Shuman, �f Cal�T��K>tern, wanted to spea.k re�arding a11 t�ie Rl and R?_
propez�t�y� in A�:ea o anc� �a nortn:i_��n �f Ar�a 2J . �Ie sa:i.d �he� �ti��u]_d considE:rat.ior.
like tt�� ]'lanr�:in� Cornn�i�sicn _ta cor.sidcr R7.-�-7,5 as an a7.ternative Pr�P�sed hy
for tli:..= �;��rtion east oi Pa10 Vista whilc. tliF� port�ian �iesterly of developer
Palo �'ista be co�.si��r.ed as R2 some of �,rhich is px�esent:iy zoned
comrnercial and R2.
' Mr� Iiilla�1a17_a said or�c� nf the reasons th� pecple �outl af him PoinLs of view
had i:a go t_� residenti.a7 ss t:hey co:il_d not stand the pr�ssu�e� d�.ffer
41Ya.E�ii y;�u downgrade �. a�eigY�tboi�liood shr�p�pi�.io �rea ycu ta�.11, �..n QfLect,
ht� fcrca.i,g the ne�g3 :i.n L area to driv� fartner fr�r. t:hese
:.;e7-vicG�:-� s He sa.icl L are other poi.nts of view tc� ��e considered
than just t1iF econom.i�>ts' � iheir viet�s differ fYOm a social
scier�tist's pnini: o� viet�r. T1r.. r>hu7tlar� sa>>d they aie not aver.se
to hav:i.r:,�; t1:e com_ne.:. use nn the frantage,
Ann An�;er, r'tont�z ��i;��a said she is vezy riuch conc�rned about G�tn�aav to th�
Stevens Creelc �lvd . f. orn the railzoad to Footh711 Blvd . She would Foat�iills
like to see co��:s�,rci_a]_ zoning from the r.ailroad Lo Or_ange Avenile,
a:�d ce �idential. on both side� of the str��:t fram Oraxzge Aventie to
Footni.il Blvd. �ne snid this could be cal�ed the �Gatetva.y �o the
Faotli:ills.
Con.m. Nell.is asked hota the widening of 5teveris Creek �1vd. �ai11
affect tliis corne�r. T7��re is the chance that if �ae ta:iden the
road, i� m.ay wipe out i�ir. Billauralla's property.
Chairrna�;, Bur.h��nuth f�ela there shauld be some type of neighbor.hood Convenience ctr
convenienc:e cent�r in tlia� area... it i.s a long way dot•mtot�m. needed i�z area
H� woulc� like thir tl�ought iticluded in an alternate. Conun.
0'Keef_e also beli.evE�s Lhere is ne�.d f�L pc�rh_a,ps a str�r.e anci a gas �
s�at:ior� i�.i that area.
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t'C-9r+ TIINUTL� 0� T:iE EIDJOUR�1?,D PLA�'VNtNG CQMI�'�1S�101`1 :ir:ETING t°lt'1Y 3, 1973
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, Coru�i. Adams concurred that for study purpos�s, ::hat nortion could be
�.;:�;��rci_al need cons�dere�l commerci.ai. ?-Ie said lie could :�.ot. envisa�e the nortl�w�st
:_:1'�:'l� ' cortter c1:-i Y'F?S1Ci"I1t1�..L. �CTUSS til�' St1"t'_2t Cj�.":��Oi7c.J__t�'� �3 t:()Y'�:1 �)� lt
siiould U� coT�side�-��d far cer�mercial �ad tiie balance tor resid.^ Llt:.c`il. ,
or al.l co,���-�erci.al.
';o ?ccess t:o . T1r. �-Ianson saa_d tlley �aer_e askecl to hive un access ri�;hts to Footh�ll
�; :�ti� �11 B�vd. Blvd. anc.l to iunnel the trafEie cnto Sil.ve�: Oa1c tv�ij�. Cf thi� is still
� tne case, they may •�:rant to consider th�s ', or .r_esid��ntial .
`,s��:_�, 8,� 21: Comm. �atto pro�osed the f.ol]_o�.�in� alternative:
.. %:C,_ P_S COIILll. ' •
� � i�cres R2 ' 6 of 24 acres as cc��merc:ial
13 acres a,� R2 �-eslde:zt::ial
� y Cansider_ati�^n Of �.7 SC1"°S O� pl"O??E'_1 tV IOC�3.teci ��*it:llltl t'cle
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northeast a�id south�-�:�� cor�ze�s uf t�e �n�er�c�ction of
----.',� 22 . � ;�`cCl�ellan R.a�l an;1 F ov�..� �.il ��1vd . _'�rea No . 22.
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L. rlont�bello Ri.ci�;e 5tiudy -� F.t.car:n:�encia��c,t�. t� C:it;� Cour�cil
The 4'.�seci.ate I�lar�r:er sa:i.d t?���h :�r� ord.er. t:o ma}:e a recor:sle:.dation ;
b3� tlle ISth, t:hE �'7_annii��� Co�.:-u:i.�;:>ion would i:ave ro r.,<�ke a detc�r-- �
t�inatio: ,.t this r;�eet:ing. He �aid t��e staif recorrsi�n;3� �'11tez�ta�e
A. T1�� s i.s recor�ncnded by t}lc: Pi.ar�ning Polzcy Com�ittee.
Comm. I�:eili.s abserved �hat Alrer•;zate A �ho�-s perr�aneizt open space. � A?_tei-::�te :�
The. Gity Council fee.ls that if: we �,*ai�t open space we sl�ould be ;; prc�pos�
� able ta pz,�r for i.t. The r:la.:i.rium resident. apportunz_ty areas ;�
are Sevc�� SprinE s ��anch and the Vc�:;s pr.operty. The City Council. `y
searned to thir.l: tiier_e i.ii�7it be a�li.gher usc� i�r the churclz pro— '. •
gerty, t��ith its gentle slope. •
Mov�d �y Comm. 0'Kee.fe, seconded bq Comm. Adams to adopt Alternate � A`lt:ernate A
A, Tfontel�ello Rid�e StLlCtjr PJ.f:ll� f.or that azea that fall.s outside � adoptel
�he Cupertina Urban. Service Area; those areas kTithin the Cup�r�ir.o
� Urban Servi_ce AYea fall within our General �'•lan.
AY�S: Comzn. Adams, Gatto, r��iizs, 0'Keefe, Chairrnan Buth�nuth ''
NOES: None
Motion carried, 5-0
ADJOURI��i�i�IT
Moved by Cor.un. Nellis, seconded by Comm. Adams to adjourn the Ad,journed to
me.eting ta :ionday, iiay 7, 1973, at 7:30 P.M, in the Conference �1ay 7th
Room. The meeting adj ourned at 12: 58 A.i�i.
riotion carried, 5--0
AFPROVED:
/s/ John W. Buth
Chairman
ATTEST:
/s/ Wm. E. Ryder .
r City Clerk
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