PC 04-18-73 � CITY OF CUP�:RT1N0, STATE UF� CPI.I:FORNIA PC-91
Il�3C'G Torre Avemse, Cupertino, California p��� 1
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r#I17I1TE� OF THE AP,JOt1RNED 1tEGULAR MEETING OF TIi� PLANNING CO��ISSIGN
I-iELD ON AYRIL 18, 1973, IN THE COUI�'CIL C�T1�N:1iER, CITY HALL
CUPERTINO, CA.LI'r'ORNLEi
Chairman Buthenuth called the meeting to order at 7:32 P.M. in the
Conference Roam.
ROLL CALL
Comm. present: Adams, Gatto, Nelli.s, 0'Keefe, Chairman Buthenuth
Comm. absent: None .
Sta£f present: Director.of Planning and Development 5isk
Assistant City Attorney Terry
Associate Planner Laurin �
Consultants present: Messrs. Arnold and Levy �
PUBLIC HEARING:
1. CITY 0�' CUPERTINOs Public Hearing to consider 1973
Comprehensive General Plan.
The Planning Director suggested that the staff notify the proper�y p�operty owners
owners when their properties will be reviewed so they may be pre- to be notified
sent to give their views. The Commissioners agreed this was an
e.�ccell.enC idea.
Com�f. Adams said he would like a discussion with the Mariani people Opinions of
. regarding the disadvantages of putting the shopping center so close Mariani pe�ple
to the school. requested
Mr. Arnold stated that.at the last session it was decided to take Fiscal evaluatic
each parcel separat�ly and look at it from a rieighborhood point of to be done late�
view and a citywide point of view. Co�►m. 0'Keefe commented that
new neighborhoods are often subsidized by old neighborhoods in
regard to schools, water, sewers, etc. Mr. Arnold stressed that at
this stage of the discussions we are not concerned with the fiscal
picture; this will corse at a later date. The properties should be
studied now only from the point of view of the effects that resi- �
dential development would have on the neighborhood. The worst
possible attitude would be to gloss over the neighborhood impact,
thinking the citywide study would take care of the neighborhood
impact.
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Axea 4�1 AREA 4�1: 16-acre site near Cuoerti.n� Hi�h School and serviced by
Finch Avenue and Stevens Cr`�k 3lvd.
At t:�e ?ast r,?eeting it �zas decided this area should he considered
for: a) park; ta) 4 units per acre; c) 16 units per acre.
Study ' Comr.t. Gatto said the•re is the possibility of the character of a
nei�hb�rhoods neighberhood changing. He suggested that it might be better to first
first consider the ��rhole, and then breuk docan the study into parcels.
, Mr. Levy emphasized the�ir�portance of exhaustive studies of the
neighborhoods first and arriving at one or more alternatives for the
property. After these analyses are completed, it May be determined
thaC Cupertino cvill want to limit the growth. On the basis of•the
alternatives established for the neigiiborhoods, we can then go through
and determine the most reasonable places to cut. He felt it was *�ost
iraportant to make the determination of �%hat is best for the neighborhoods
first. Mr. Arnold advised the Commission t.o Iook at the high and the
1ow for each neignborhood and then aggregate them. Mr. Levy sai� that
if we were to look at�the problem with a citywide view �ve would need
rEalistic f igures to �� caith. For instance, a retire:nent community
would ha.ve a different ir��pact than a sir.gle-fa:�ily developMent. "
Comm, G��tto aslce3 if tre neignl�orhood discussior�s could be expanced to
include adjacetit properties. The con.sultants agreed to this.
�.rea ��11 AREA ��llo South side of Stevens Creek Blvd, bet�aeen Blaney and
Portal Avenues; appro�inately 10 acres.
� rcnerty o�aner I�Ir. Arzgelc Liilo, representin� the r�ello pronerty, said the,� aYe very
state�ents concerned abaut aualitv,deveZoprient and want to coo�aerate with the City,
At the present tii:�e, Chey are very conccrned about the high taxes on
the property. The assessed valuation on this property does not
ceincide ���ith �nything less than co:;unercial zoni_ng on this property.
O�aner only want Chairmar Buthenuth explained that a� this time, all the properries are
com:�ercial here being e�Taluated for their resider�tial. potential. Mr. Lillo said he
did not be.lieve resideiitial would he at all a.�propriate here. i3ased on
the assessed valuation, arid on the present c�laYacte� ot the nei?hberhocd,
`-1 Li11_o said t:��ey could not consider anytt.i_n� but commercial here.
Assessed. Com�. Plellis wa� of r'r.e orii.iori that ence the General Plan is car:pleted,
���luat�.on th� Assessor's Offi.ce ;:�i11, ta?ce it seriousl.y and this she belz�ves �oil1
coul_d change be ref:ter.ced in the assessed valuati.on.
' Comm. \Tel_lis saic? taxes, etc. , ca.i] 1 lae �ar:�n in�o consid�rat�on i_n the
finai ana.�_ysis but a*: this poiizr_, al]_ alte�-nati.ves srould C� cons?.dered.
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Cor�rl. AdaTns fPlt that rhey shou?_d not even cor.s?der single-fa,nily Sinz J_e-�a-�il�-
residences here. He d�d not feel t::ere �aou�_d 1 �? a mar.ket for ruied cu�
single--iamily lzcr!es aloiig Steven:, Creek Blvct .
It tiaas brought out that the adj acent horze o:�ners �,�=ould be �:�ost
upset if thi.s r�roperty �aere deveioped co�:�erc �_a:i. It �aas further
brougiit out that they must have realize �1T hen they �urchased their
homes that this pr_ob�bly �aould not be single-fa*:�ily d2velopment.
Co. 0'Keefe said this �s a uniqae piece cf property. :Le wanted 16 units per
to think in terms of incentive in order to.g�t a qualit�l develop�- acre as one
ment here. A 16-uni.t-per-acre develo�nent here might be good, alternative .
provi�ling there is a unique design. ,
There followed a discussion on how the various develotinents would
affect the residential homes on �3�.�>bv and on th� com�ercial
developments already on Stevens Creei: Blvd. There ��=as a dj.scussi_o �
on what the effect would '�e on t:i� residential homes by a 10--storv
apartrser.t house that c•�as surrounded by gr�en area. Cer�.Tn. 0'Keefe
suggested looking aC the property as the er..trance to the neighbor-
zood bezind it. �
C:�airman Buthenuth suggested a town house cluster similar to that
on Bubb Rc�a�l might fit ia here. ::E IlOt�C� t:lat t:Lis t; pe livin� .
style suogests more children, and the im�aet on the schools shouid
also be studied.
.It was decided this area should be analyzed for two alternatives: Area l�
a) 16 units per acxe multiple; and b) single fa:�:ily hcmes, 10 alternatives
per acre.
Mrs. Ann Anger called to mind that years a�o Stevens Creek Blvd. w s
talked about in terms of another �r'ilshire Blvd. There is one very
�attractive portion along Wilshire Blvd. that includes apartr:ients.
She said they should consider underground part:.ing and two or three
story buildin�s. She said we must take into cons�deration what
the property owners have paid in taxes in•the past years. She
offered to go ta the Assessor's Office and gat�er statistics,
based on �ehat the property owners are paying in taxes per square
foot of land. It was felt that with t:zis process we caould not
� end•up with a good plan. �
Comcn. Gatto observed ti�at the i:�pact on the neighborhood �aould, in
� this case, be greater urith t:ze I.o;aer thar_ wit:z the higher density
because of the different demographic characteristics of the
development.
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�rea I6B AREa 16�: 20 acres located at the end of Rainbow Drive
ractors to be Property o�,mer Noor Billawalla said taxes paid on properties, noise
c�nsidered 1eve1 and smog level are ma�or factors that shoulc� be considered. '
He spoke about the effects dn �the nervous system and mental health
of the peopla. Mr. Billawa�.la said that in So�eden, the taxes.are
based on �he income from the property rather than on the property itseif, �
Comm. Gatto said there is an inherent xisk ��hen somebody invests in
property, just as there is a certain amount o.f risk when investing
in �the stock *.narket. Mr. Bi11.a�rall.a telt �haC the property owners
should be considered �ust as much as the adjacent property owners.
== units per As to Mr. Bil.lawalla's 20 acres at Uplanc� Way and P.ainbow Drive, he
acre, cluster believes a c1.usL developmenC in the valley would be �best, taith�4
pronosed units pe� acre. Ther� could be town houses, leaving the area along
Regnart Canyon as open space. He said there are many beautiful trees
up tnere. Eleven acxes could be used For city park. He said 40! of
� the land would be left in open space. Tra�fic could go down Rainbow
Drive to Highcaay 9. There would be a toral of 150 to 160 living units,
with 'Z to 4 units within one �Cotan house. There are 378 acres in
Area 16B including Regnart Canyon. The Planning Conunission has
recornmendec� the Seven Springs Ranch.
�-:il]_s�de Su�t- Cor,im. Nell:.is said a iot of people in that neighborhood would be upset
c:o��itre� with the propo�ed ty�e of development. ShP also �aid the Hillside
r�porr_ Subcor.unitt�ee has designated tlzis area t�r 1-- to 5-acre lots. She sa:id
Se��en Sprin�s has tt.e poss��bi.liCy of maximi.un residential oppor�unity,
She said the geology - r�port indicated 5 or 6 different zones of •
relativ� stability. This area came out lot,r in si:al:ili�y. Another
. factor con�i.derec�.. was ;�lope.
Stal�le ar�a Mr. Bi].lawalla said a geolog�cal. study made in the area some time ago
indi.cated this property was cunsidered very stuble; others not so stabYe.
sopc� map . z� t•yas d�cic�ed a Copography map ��i.11 be nec�ssary i.n furr.her discussions
ne�Ced of this area.
Chairman But;henuY.h call.ed a recess a� 10:03 P.M.
The rrie�tir�g r�cdnvened at 10:08 P,M.
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P.RF,AS 15A a.nd 15B : Seven Spr. ings Kanch Ar_ ea.� 15A & B
�ir. Char.l.es Quinn sai.d they ho�ed to develop in the nc:aY• futur� The �rcpo�al.
the fl_a±� laild start. at Rainho,�� Dri_v� a.r,d Ste�ling, up te �}�e
di_vidin� line het,�reen 1�A and i5B -- a7out 105 cf. th� `�otal ?60
acres included �n i h�� ranc��, T;:�e pr. ot�osa�_ is f er sin;;le f a-�ily
ho*_:�es at a 4.4 units p.�r acre dens�_ty. Ttiis ��;oul1 tak� us up to
tne t�ase of the foothiils. It: is a�ert..le, slap_ng plane. He
said :�1r. I,yd�ll would .lilce to re�a�n 2Q to 30 acres �n the lo:.-er
por.tion of Area 15B f;;,- his residence. T:���� ��.onld l�.':ce to leave
the balancc:. as opPn space. In th:.s respect, they are negotiatin¢ �
�ai.th the Regianal Parlcs people.
Mr . Quinn said he d�d not lcnow ��hat the irnnact c�n the schools Schools
would be. He added that a neig:ibor_ ing sc.i�ol. d�_strict o�ans the
property. aw'•joining this property. He celieves ti�e tyre cf ho�es
planned here would nc.t genernte a great numb�r of children.
Comm. Adams asked Mr. Quinn ii the}- tiad considered sor�.e kind of Sin�.le fa�
rii� that would result in 4.4 dens�t;-. rTr. Quinn said that, due to ho�es
the topo�raphy of the area, the�� Leel sin?le i_ar:l? 1S� ho �:es t
r.iove better than to�an houses . Cha _rman }3uthenuth cue�,tioned
�ahether �or. not it 4ras necessar}� to consider anvtnir.g other �than
the praposed single fa�:�ily develor�ent ior this prr��e
'1r . Quinn said that at one tir:e they had c.onsidered co-nbinin� this
with the Fremont Olde1- property but tlie pe�ple did not �aant it ,
there were problems wit� getting the utilities �n there, and
tha topography nade it inadvisable.
All in all, the Comm3.ssioners felt thia was a good proposal, �a�th 4.4/acre
15A in 75CQ sq. ft. single far.li_ly homes a:zd 15� a� open space.
There was some discussion of considering a mix in 15A thaL �oould
result i.n 4.4 or less units per acre. It ��-•as agreed �'::at school�
't'ai11 be an ir.iportant factor to consider. , Co-n,�n. 0'?:eefe stressed
that schools and parks will be important factors here. Co�m.
Adams said town houses and/or one- or two-bedroom homes may have ,
to be considered here to relieve the school require-�ents.
Comm. Nel.lis saic' this is a prime area for single fa:�ily hoMes.
Comm. Gatto suggested starting with 4.4 per acre on the flat land Varied housin�,
with town houses, etc., and as you approach the foothills the lots alterna�i.ves
would get larger. This is an alternative to be considered.
Corun. Nellis would l.ike to study haif-acre "lots on 7_SA, for com- �
parison.
Comm. Gatto cautioned that subsequent o�,mers cf this property coul Subseq_uent o�ane
have different ideas on 15B than present thinkin�;. It was decided to bA c�ns�dPre_
that tt�o alternatives are to be cansidered for 5even Springs .
Ranch: 1) 7500 sq. ft. lots, or 4.3 units per acre on 15A with.
15B remaining open space; 2) 2 uzits per acre on 1SA with 15B
remainin� as open space.
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Study bJ_ue After discussion, it was decided the Co�cnission would concen�rate on
areas f irst studyiizg the blue areas on the map first.
�teetings on Moved by Comm. Gat'to, seconded by Comm. 0'KeeL to continue the
:?pril 23rd public hearings.
at:d 26th, �
' riotion carried, 5-0
T�iere was some discussion about week�.y meetings. tt �aas �rought out
�hat the City Council is considering weelcly meetin�s, not necessarily
on �iondays. It was felt the Planni.n� Cvmsnission shauld try to meet
the same night each t,-eek, t;hatever iii�ht that might be. I�: tvas
decicled th��t, in addition to the .re;;ular P1_ai:n.ing Commissian mee�i.n�
on Monda��, April 23?-d, there would ��e anotlier ad,;ournecl raeeting on
Th�irsd�y, April 26tYi. 'i,lie Pla:�ning Directar raill then seek guidance
frcm che CiCy Council on establishir� weekl.}� me�tings �f.ter tria�. ,
.'1DJOI7�Z?�Ti�:LNT
:ioved b;r t;oeun, i��ellis, secocided by Comm. Adams to adjourri the r�eeting
a� 10:47 P.AI,
?�Sotion carried, 5-0
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