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PC 04-18-73 � CITY OF CUP�:RT1N0, STATE UF� CPI.I:FORNIA PC-91 Il�3C'G Torre Avemse, Cupertino, California p��� 1 T�lephone : 252 • r#I17I1TE� OF THE AP,JOt1RNED 1tEGULAR MEETING OF TIi� PLANNING CO��ISSIGN I-iELD ON AYRIL 18, 1973, IN THE COUI�'CIL C�T1�N:1iER, CITY HALL CUPERTINO, CA.LI'r'ORNLEi Chairman Buthenuth called the meeting to order at 7:32 P.M. in the Conference Roam. ROLL CALL Comm. present: Adams, Gatto, Nelli.s, 0'Keefe, Chairman Buthenuth Comm. absent: None . Sta£f present: Director.of Planning and Development 5isk Assistant City Attorney Terry Associate Planner Laurin � Consultants present: Messrs. Arnold and Levy � PUBLIC HEARING: 1. CITY 0�' CUPERTINOs Public Hearing to consider 1973 Comprehensive General Plan. The Planning Director suggested that the staff notify the proper�y p�operty owners owners when their properties will be reviewed so they may be pre- to be notified sent to give their views. The Commissioners agreed this was an e.�ccell.enC idea. Com�f. Adams said he would like a discussion with the Mariani people Opinions of . regarding the disadvantages of putting the shopping center so close Mariani pe�ple to the school. requested Mr. Arnold stated that.at the last session it was decided to take Fiscal evaluatic each parcel separat�ly and look at it from a rieighborhood point of to be done late� view and a citywide point of view. Co�►m. 0'Keefe commented that new neighborhoods are often subsidized by old neighborhoods in regard to schools, water, sewers, etc. Mr. Arnold stressed that at this stage of the discussions we are not concerned with the fiscal picture; this will corse at a later date. The properties should be studied now only from the point of view of the effects that resi- � dential development would have on the neighborhood. The worst possible attitude would be to gloss over the neighborhood impact, thinking the citywide study would take care of the neighborhood impact. ' � � � � PC-91 iINUTES OF THE APRIL 18, 1973 ADJOURNED PLAIvNING C0�'IISSIOV NIEETING Pa�e 2 � Axea 4�1 AREA 4�1: 16-acre site near Cuoerti.n� Hi�h School and serviced by Finch Avenue and Stevens Cr`�k 3lvd. At t:�e ?ast r,?eeting it �zas decided this area should he considered for: a) park; ta) 4 units per acre; c) 16 units per acre. Study ' Comr.t. Gatto said the•re is the possibility of the character of a nei�hb�rhoods neighberhood changing. He suggested that it might be better to first first consider the ��rhole, and then breuk docan the study into parcels. , Mr. Levy emphasized the�ir�portance of exhaustive studies of the neighborhoods first and arriving at one or more alternatives for the property. After these analyses are completed, it May be determined thaC Cupertino cvill want to limit the growth. On the basis of•the alternatives established for the neigiiborhoods, we can then go through and determine the most reasonable places to cut. He felt it was *�ost iraportant to make the determination of �%hat is best for the neighborhoods first. Mr. Arnold advised the Commission t.o Iook at the high and the 1ow for each neignborhood and then aggregate them. Mr. Levy sai� that if we were to look at�the problem with a citywide view �ve would need rEalistic f igures to �� caith. For instance, a retire:nent community would ha.ve a different ir��pact than a sir.gle-fa:�ily developMent. " Comm, G��tto aslce3 if tre neignl�orhood discussior�s could be expanced to include adjacetit properties. The con.sultants agreed to this. �.rea ��11 AREA ��llo South side of Stevens Creek Blvd, bet�aeen Blaney and Portal Avenues; appro�inately 10 acres. � rcnerty o�aner I�Ir. Arzgelc Liilo, representin� the r�ello pronerty, said the,� aYe very state�ents concerned abaut aualitv,deveZoprient and want to coo�aerate with the City, At the present tii:�e, Chey are very conccrned about the high taxes on the property. The assessed valuation on this property does not ceincide ���ith �nything less than co:;unercial zoni_ng on this property. O�aner only want Chairmar Buthenuth explained that a� this time, all the properries are com:�ercial here being e�Taluated for their resider�tial. potential. Mr. Lillo said he did not be.lieve resideiitial would he at all a.�propriate here. i3ased on the assessed valuation, arid on the present c�laYacte� ot the nei?hberhocd, `-1 Li11_o said t:��ey could not consider anytt.i_n� but commercial here. Assessed. Com�. Plellis wa� of r'r.e orii.iori that ence the General Plan is car:pleted, ���luat�.on th� Assessor's Offi.ce ;:�i11, ta?ce it seriousl.y and this she belz�ves �oil1 coul_d change be ref:ter.ced in the assessed valuati.on. ' Comm. \Tel_lis saic? taxes, etc. , ca.i] 1 lae �ar:�n in�o consid�rat�on i_n the finai ana.�_ysis but a*: this poiizr_, al]_ alte�-nati.ves srould C� cons?.dered. � MINUTES OF TI�E EIPRIL 1.8, 1973 PLA�ti=1ING COiKMISS.LOT� PiEI'sTIr1G PC-91 P<<�e 3 Cor�rl. AdaTns fPlt that rhey shou?_d not even cor.s?der single-fa,nily Sinz J_e-�a-�il�- residences here. He d�d not feel t::ere �aou�_d 1 �? a mar.ket for ruied cu� single--iamily lzcr!es aloiig Steven:, Creek Blvct . It tiaas brought out that the adj acent horze o:�ners �,�=ould be �:�ost upset if thi.s r�roperty �aere deveioped co�:�erc �_a:i. It �aas further brougiit out that they must have realize �1T hen they �urchased their homes that this pr_ob�bly �aould not be single-fa*:�ily d2velopment. Co. 0'Keefe said this �s a uniqae piece cf property. :Le wanted 16 units per to think in terms of incentive in order to.g�t a qualit�l develop�- acre as one ment here. A 16-uni.t-per-acre develo�nent here might be good, alternative . provi�ling there is a unique design. , There followed a discussion on how the various develotinents would affect the residential homes on �3�.�>bv and on th� com�ercial developments already on Stevens Creei: Blvd. There ��=as a dj.scussi_o � on what the effect would '�e on t:i� residential homes by a 10--storv apartrser.t house that c•�as surrounded by gr�en area. Cer�.Tn. 0'Keefe suggested looking aC the property as the er..trance to the neighbor- zood bezind it. � C:�airman Buthenuth suggested a town house cluster similar to that on Bubb Rc�a�l might fit ia here. ::E IlOt�C� t:lat t:Lis t; pe livin� . style suogests more children, and the im�aet on the schools shouid also be studied. .It was decided this area should be analyzed for two alternatives: Area l� a) 16 units per acxe multiple; and b) single fa:�:ily hcmes, 10 alternatives per acre. Mrs. Ann Anger called to mind that years a�o Stevens Creek Blvd. w s talked about in terms of another �r'ilshire Blvd. There is one very �attractive portion along Wilshire Blvd. that includes apartr:ients. She said they should consider underground part:.ing and two or three story buildin�s. She said we must take into cons�deration what the property owners have paid in taxes in•the past years. She offered to go ta the Assessor's Office and gat�er statistics, based on �ehat the property owners are paying in taxes per square foot of land. It was felt that with t:zis process we caould not � end•up with a good plan. � Comcn. Gatto observed ti�at the i:�pact on the neighborhood �aould, in � this case, be greater urith t:ze I.o;aer thar_ wit:z the higher density because of the different demographic characteristics of the development. ' _ � } m . � p�_gl MINUTES OF TH�; APRIL 18, 1973 PLANNING COMMISSIQN MEETING . Page 4 � �rea I6B AREa 16�: 20 acres located at the end of Rainbow Drive ractors to be Property o�,mer Noor Billawalla said taxes paid on properties, noise c�nsidered 1eve1 and smog level are ma�or factors that shoulc� be considered. ' He spoke about the effects dn �the nervous system and mental health of the peopla. Mr. Billawa�.la said that in So�eden, the taxes.are based on �he income from the property rather than on the property itseif, � Comm. Gatto said there is an inherent xisk ��hen somebody invests in property, just as there is a certain amount o.f risk when investing in �the stock *.narket. Mr. Bi11.a�rall.a telt �haC the property owners should be considered �ust as much as the adjacent property owners. == units per As to Mr. Bil.lawalla's 20 acres at Uplanc� Way and P.ainbow Drive, he acre, cluster believes a c1.usL developmenC in the valley would be �best, taith�4 pronosed units pe� acre. Ther� could be town houses, leaving the area along Regnart Canyon as open space. He said there are many beautiful trees up tnere. Eleven acxes could be used For city park. He said 40! of � the land would be left in open space. Tra�fic could go down Rainbow Drive to Highcaay 9. There would be a toral of 150 to 160 living units, with 'Z to 4 units within one �Cotan house. There are 378 acres in Area 16B including Regnart Canyon. The Planning Conunission has recornmendec� the Seven Springs Ranch. �-:il]_s�de Su�t- Cor,im. Nell:.is said a iot of people in that neighborhood would be upset c:o��itre� with the propo�ed ty�e of development. ShP also �aid the Hillside r�porr_ Subcor.unitt�ee has designated tlzis area t�r 1-- to 5-acre lots. She sa:id Se��en Sprin�s has tt.e poss��bi.liCy of maximi.un residential oppor�unity, She said the geology - r�port indicated 5 or 6 different zones of • relativ� stability. This area came out lot,r in si:al:ili�y. Another . factor con�i.derec�.. was ;�lope. Stal�le ar�a Mr. Bi].lawalla said a geolog�cal. study made in the area some time ago indi.cated this property was cunsidered very stuble; others not so stabYe. sopc� map . z� t•yas d�cic�ed a Copography map ��i.11 be nec�ssary i.n furr.her discussions ne�Ced of this area. Chairman But;henuY.h call.ed a recess a� 10:03 P.M. The rrie�tir�g r�cdnvened at 10:08 P,M. � P1II��tITES U�' '1'HF !?1?Y,Ii, . 18, 1973 PLA;.��.ING CO:i•TISSTp:V IiEJ:TING PC--�1 . l'a�;e 5 P.RF,AS 15A a.nd 15B : Seven Spr. ings Kanch Ar_ ea.� 15A & B �ir. Char.l.es Quinn sai.d they ho�ed to develop in the nc:aY• futur� The �rcpo�al. the fl_a±� laild start. at Rainho,�� Dri_v� a.r,d Ste�ling, up te �}�e di_vidin� line het,�reen 1�A and i5B -- a7out 105 cf. th� `�otal ?60 acres included �n i h�� ranc��, T;:�e pr. ot�osa�_ is f er sin;;le f a-�ily ho*_:�es at a 4.4 units p.�r acre dens�_ty. Ttiis ��;oul1 tak� us up to tne t�ase of the foothiils. It: is a�ert..le, slap_ng plane. He said :�1r. I,yd�ll would .lilce to re�a�n 2Q to 30 acres �n the lo:.-er por.tion of Area 15B f;;,- his residence. T:���� ��.onld l�.':ce to leave the balancc:. as opPn space. In th:.s respect, they are negotiatin¢ � �ai.th the Regianal Parlcs people. Mr . Quinn said he d�d not lcnow ��hat the irnnact c�n the schools Schools would be. He added that a neig:ibor_ ing sc.i�ol. d�_strict o�ans the property. aw'•joining this property. He celieves ti�e tyre cf ho�es planned here would nc.t genernte a great numb�r of children. Comm. Adams asked Mr. Quinn ii the}- tiad considered sor�.e kind of Sin�.le fa� rii� that would result in 4.4 dens�t;-. rTr. Quinn said that, due to ho�es the topo�raphy of the area, the�� Leel sin?le i_ar:l? 1S� ho �:es t r.iove better than to�an houses . Cha _rman }3uthenuth cue�,tioned �ahether �or. not it 4ras necessar}� to consider anvtnir.g other �than the praposed single fa�:�ily develor�ent ior this prr��e '1r . Quinn said that at one tir:e they had c.onsidered co-nbinin� this with the Fremont Olde1- property but tlie pe�ple did not �aant it , there were problems wit� getting the utilities �n there, and tha topography nade it inadvisable. All in all, the Comm3.ssioners felt thia was a good proposal, �a�th 4.4/acre 15A in 75CQ sq. ft. single far.li_ly homes a:zd 15� a� open space. There was some discussion of considering a mix in 15A thaL �oould result i.n 4.4 or less units per acre. It ��-•as agreed �'::at school� 't'ai11 be an ir.iportant factor to consider. , Co-n,�n. 0'?:eefe stressed that schools and parks will be important factors here. Co�m. Adams said town houses and/or one- or two-bedroom homes may have , to be considered here to relieve the school require-�ents. Comm. Nel.lis saic' this is a prime area for single fa:�ily hoMes. Comm. Gatto suggested starting with 4.4 per acre on the flat land Varied housin�, with town houses, etc., and as you approach the foothills the lots alterna�i.ves would get larger. This is an alternative to be considered. Corun. Nellis would l.ike to study haif-acre "lots on 7_SA, for com- � parison. Comm. Gatto cautioned that subsequent o�,mers cf this property coul Subseq_uent o�ane have different ideas on 15B than present thinkin�;. It was decided to bA c�ns�dPre_ that tt�o alternatives are to be cansidered for 5even Springs . Ranch: 1) 7500 sq. ft. lots, or 4.3 units per acre on 15A with. 15B remaining open space; 2) 2 uzits per acre on 1SA with 15B remainin� as open space. . ; t - p�.-gl rillv'UTES OF THE AP12IL 18, 1973 PLA;�'�1tNG CO�LiI55I0N MEETING page 6 Study bJ_ue After discussion, it was decided the Co�cnission would concen�rate on areas f irst studyiizg the blue areas on the map first. �teetings on Moved by Comm. Gat'to, seconded by Comm. 0'KeeL to continue the :?pril 23rd public hearings. at:d 26th, � ' riotion carried, 5-0 T�iere was some discussion about week�.y meetings. tt �aas �rought out �hat the City Council is considering weelcly meetin�s, not necessarily on �iondays. It was felt the Planni.n� Cvmsnission shauld try to meet the same night each t,-eek, t;hatever iii�ht that might be. I�: tvas decicled th��t, in addition to the .re;;ular P1_ai:n.ing Commissian mee�i.n� on Monda��, April 23?-d, there would ��e anotlier ad,;ournecl raeeting on Th�irsd�y, April 26tYi. 'i,lie Pla:�ning Directar raill then seek guidance frcm che CiCy Council on establishir� weekl.}� me�tings �f.ter tria�. , .'1DJOI7�Z?�Ti�:LNT :ioved b;r t;oeun, i��ellis, secocided by Comm. Adams to adjourri the r�eeting a� 10:47 P.AI, ?�Sotion carried, 5-0 � APPPO�'�D: � /s/ ,T oh�i jJ Bllt 'f1E:illl � h . --�� C}iairman � ' . ATTEST: ' / s,l W:n . E. R�d e r ^-- ----- ' C i. t}� C 7. er. l>=