PC 08-22-72 �
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T1IivL;"I'ES UF TII�: �'1�JGLTR�°�LJ KE<�UT_AR `�rF,TING OF' T�?E �
�'LA�1cv'Ii.;: i3O �::TSSIOr� =i! i.L L�N AUGUST 2 19'12 i
IN TH� C;0'.1i�CIL C:;.:l`:�'_�R, �i.T.`� H�,LL, CUP�.?-'T::i�O, �'ALIFO:�IvIt� �
SALUTi: TO '1'H�' �'L4G
�?la:lnir.g Comm, preseilt: Gatto, i�eili�,, 0' i;hairman Buttienut'
:Iannin.g Comm. ahsent: Adam�
Par..��s & P.ec. Corun. preseiLt: Janna Eybok��s •
GeorQe Ga��r. i�1
Len �ch���eitzernct
Chairman }3at•rv Thibodpau
Staff present: Director of Pianning & De�.�e?orL�ent �is'r:
Associate Planner Laurin
Associate �'lanner Co-�an °
Be�uty Ci*_� �.ttcrre;� ?�i�l.iaz:
Director of •Parics & Recreation F,ut�er
Recordir.g Secretary Lois �nwards
Others present: Mr. Robert Gcnza�es
:�irs . Lucien '_zertert
Mrs. Judy Tembroch
PiJBLIC HEAFcINs
1. Public H°_31"1L7'7 t� cansrder dratr o* Unen Space �lemen� of
�hF �eneral Flan.
Cnair�ar But�er.x�th opened the informal me�tin� at 7:35 P`i. He
asked Assc�c�_�.te P�a-�rcr Laur�n r_c reporr t�.r�t. �
� Associate Pianner �,aur_n said all �ler��.nts �t tr.e �enerai Plan are �Elc:�ents of
inter-dependent, so you can` t re�?? 1y discuss anP taitha�zt afLecting i��er.er�:� P' a.n
another. Ar a later date t:ere Z�T:ll. be i.r.ifcr�at;.on *_=ron� l.he B � ac'_�. � are �n�er-
Mountain Study to inco�porate �•iitn tnis docui�ent. ��r�nera� Plan �epen�ent
sl.oulci be revised anc� updated quite frequentl;-.
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PC-70 � MIPNTES JF THE ADJOURNED PLANNING CO1fii1ISSI0N riEFTING AUCLTST 22, 1972
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� Tn� tnird draft o� the Open Space and Conservat?on Eienent and an
addendum were passe� out to those present.
Defin;tions of Tre Associate Planner defined open space as a:.y�tn�ng that isn't paved
ter.:ns used or roofed. Neighbornood parks should be geared toward grade school
aged children and within �valking distance Cor�snunitl pa.rks are r.lore
for the teenagers and should be withir.. bicycling distance, Citywide
parns are more ti�e ty�e�you would get into ti�e car and drive to.
There was some discussion as to the possibility of na�e ctianges of
so*�e c�f tne parks whe�e there is duplication. T:ie Associate Planner
felt that if Cupertino.comes close to 50,000 population the school
district will have to cons�der more schools.
Programn:ing The Parks and Recr�ation Director said the City has a contract
coordinated with the school district as to program?ning. Faria, rionta Vista, Stevens
with sc:�ool Creek ar.d Portal Farks will be developed. The City� cre��:s �aill do the
district maintenance oiz the parks.
�1r. GaL-riel said, with the exception of tre west side, all the schools
in the district feel tney have reached th2ir pea?c. �
lise of Jr. Col. Conun. 0'Keefe asked if there is seme understanding �=ith De�nza Junior
iacilities Co1J_ege. The} uti]_ize their facilities fron� 8 tiM te 9 P"4, pr.act�cally
precluding any use of, say, the tennis courts by other citizens.
The Parks and Recrea�ion Director said there zs the possibilzty of
additional use of their facilities, includir�g little theater and
pistol rarge.
Light o�i� o�;n �Sr. Gdbriel stated he caould prefer to have the City ligzt our ocan
t�nr.is courrs tennis c�urts tizan tnose at De Anza. He fe�t this �oo�ld ae in rt�e
best interest of Cupertine residents. Co_��. Gatto agreed.
�:�rar. boxes for Comsn. c�`Keefe asked if t�,erp is any pzovision for lighted tennis
liahting courts courts paying for t�em5elves. Tne Parks Dir.ector sa�d that once the
li.�hts are �nstalled, tr,e rneter �o�ces will pay f�r t'c�e ma:�ntenance ot
the li�hts . As to ti�e r�at*er of ma'cing reser��ations for use of the
courts , he said �ae don' t l.ave enou�ii per5onnel tu handl.e reservatior..s .
Ir�terviewin2 The Parks Director said the budgct a�lows $15,COU for arcnitect's fees.
for parles I:�tervi.ewing for archit�:ct(s) for Portal, Faria, �te��ens Cree'c, Morita
arch�tect(s) ViSta and Horse Ranch parks wil]_ begin in Se>>temar�r.. $100,OG0 is
in Sept. al.lo;��ed f.or the devel.op��_ent �hat �::ust take T,lac` c;n t`:� norse rancfl
pronerty and for miiii�a=� �levelop-:ent of the o�ner fctir parks,
Co:,i:-n. Ne11is noted t?�e Parks and Recre�:.tion Co-�-n�.ssicn's docunent
goes a 1ot farther tl�an t'�.e Open Space r�l.e���>�z�. There �ai_11 be some
discuss�an of minimum, average and cptiMtic� �ar�:s requi_rements.
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MINLTi:S OF THE E1I).TO�iR�i�D PL.'L�IN�:';�� C��: �1i�SI0N ''`��'r.'E'T1:NG AUv. 22, J_972 FC-70
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�ssociate P_lannc�r Laurin noted tne eli�ination of sorne r.�ini--pa�ks
because maintenance of t�.,ese s:�a11, tnii�i-parr_s :��ould 'be most
costly.
Cornn. 0'Keefe as'�ced ;.hat ����ct :Iariani 'Iall ��-111 'nave on Collins CoJ_iizs Scha•:�?_
School. �ie su`;geste�? t�`�_:t :��_t� a par'.c so closQ to the :�iall �ae
� �._l. ;7aV2 3 P_E'.l�it:�Or.i00c� n3T�C �,2Lt�.Cla 'i 2�l o.ia.�. par:�� USc'1�° .
Associate Planr.er Laurin e.::plained t}:c� trail sy:�te�, �•�hic': couid Trail sys�em
go L�:rough trie �a� `�:ea:1o�..s ont�n space, T�ze i:: tre po�sibility
ttie County r��i.g::t take over t:le �:ainter.aiice o� ���i.s trail sy�ste-n.
The Pl.annin� Director f elt that ite;:� 14 on page i2 should �e re- �ai: .'•�eadows
worded to spea� �.�out de ri_g': and not close t::e dco.r
as to acquisition. It l.as �rought out th�re is not�` to �eep
Oa�c Meado:tis irom gi��Lng tne property to, say*, t:�e �ov ,:couts a5 �
iong as there is no de���lop�:�ent on t:ze propert�> �
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�ir. Gabriel said iie �:ould li�:e to se^ t�i�s rep�.r; �e more deiiniti te
without being too explic�_t as to .� I:r'i3t ;��e ;tioulc 1i:ce to see i.n the
various areas.
The Associate pla,zner said natural - resource areas cou1C ��e con- Kaiser area
sidered as apen space. '�iost of th�s is in the ::a_ser Fer-�an�n�e
area. They wi1.1 pro�a�).y COI1t1P,ll@ wcrking u? ��.ere for ano�.�er
20 years , t�e ;:��uld hope there T�ili be adequate huf f er areas ar.d
pollutian contr.ol.
The Associate Planner stated there snould 'oe no f�.:r�i.er resid�ntia_ Rift Zone
development in the San Andreas Rift Zone. HoT,'ever, t::ere cou�yd be
commercial%recreationai areas t::ere. Co��. L�el' � s saici she �ad
spoken with ?�ir. Rogers, who is doing t::e stLd�� �or t':�e .�i.11szde
Consnittee of the PPC. It was nis contention tl:ere r:�g1:t b� riore
development up there atter geological st::dies ::ave been made.
Ho�,rever, there s'r:oull '�e rc `iospitais, sciiools, etc. , t:.�re.
The main thought is to make tr.e prospective o�ar.�r a�oare of the
risk. Some additional work will be done on the Rift Zone c�.apter
of this docur.ient.
In discussions of the �cen�_c Hig:�.�ays; Traii �ystem chapter, Bicyc�e,
Comm. Nellis stated she �eels bicycles and au*o�^e5iles are not eauestriaa,
compatibie arzd suggested t�e possibilit uf separate bike traiis. redestriaa tra�i.-
lhe [lssociate rlanner thougilt it � a very �ooa i�ea to separaLe
pedestrian and bike trails frcm autorobiles. Co^n.. 0'�e�fe �•�ould
like to see tnis stated iii tr.i.� Open Space Elemen*_. Equestrian
traAls are to be inclucied also.
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Rew�rding cf On page 10 cf the ti:ird draf t, it W2S decided ite-� f. would 'oe deleted
: an pa�e 10 «nd replaced taith the words : "Plaximize De �^:nza Col� ege f ac�li.ties for
co;n.�nunity usage."
P�e:orestatir�n Co:�c�. 0'Keefe f�lt t�zere should be a statemert in tl:is locu�ent regarding
state:n�nt filling in or reforestation of areas u�on aba^do��^ent o� cuur:y operations.
:leeded The last thing he would like te see in t:�e qua�r;- ��;;�uld be t,aste
d�sposal. The Planning�staff �tia.s instructed to �,o�k this into the
document.
Sp�cs need�d Assoc=ate Planner Laur�n r�e:�t �,ent over t:�e "Reported Standards for
:cr our Park Areas" chart in the Addendum. On page 2, �or�n. Gatto =elt there
rarticular s:iould he sper_i�ications for cor,rc:ur�ity parks, neig.zbori:ood parks ar.d
•:.�-_f�ds city�Jide parks t::at are suited to fit our particular needs.
titand. rd,� �or Discussion fol�_owied on �•rhetr�er or not �,le shculd go for t;1e ��ni�um,
_�a.r_k st sCe_.� avera�e or opti:.�u� standards ror our par� s ste�. Tir. Gabriel
reco�;:er.ded going ror t�:e average sta:.dard. '�1r. Thibodeau felt iae
s:,r.uld tr;T for averace in the flat la .ds an3 optimu�n in the :.ilis.�
As t'�e Fopulation in the �oot:z�lls inr_reases we ��-os1d 'nave the open
s��.ce t�,�pe par�s for a' � tae cityze�� to utilize. C:�air-an �;ut�ezuth
'_=elt it ;�oul� be prett; eh�ensive to trt- �or t:ze averare sta_zcar3.
I Cc-� . 0`�<:e�i e note � ttiat i� Portal Pari: is :.ear optimu. t::En average
�s so-;�t'.:ing �,Te can siioct for because we ��1i±1 then ��ave a pcint of
rAference. Co.:,.:�. �satto auest:�.oned :ahetner ;,-e should concentrate on
spa_ce cr oiz stai:dards f c�r our parks .
"_'ri �.',`?' C:` :'LEL1S �.iiE? T�2I':�S �ilc?Ct�Y SllC�E'SteC� P� d.:i7�R� fOr tile 52:i10'� C1t1Zen.S �R i}1e
nei_� :��or��oo:i nGri:s �ecat:se of possible :iac�: of transportaticn,
Co:2-;.. 0'K�efe co:-nzented that it t:�e a.�.�erage to ogt�TM,u:n standards are
� �:T'OJ1cjP_Cl ���E Stai` ;nTll� PiOV��e the SeI"V1C2 Of t�iiP_ rite�S O� t���
cor:�..-�uc:it}� they :.erve ,
The P1ar.nin ; Dz.ie�.tor , Pa- Director and Ci.t�� Attorney i:ave �ad
discuss�ons on ti;is anu t�:= huve to have r_ �e f���ure:= �ae ar� „�ooting
ior befare an ord�_nance ca ��e c^��.rructrd, Varioiis ���a�;� o� �ettin�
the f:unds riave a2sa beer: e�;r,lored. v
f;c•.~ inue��i to Moved by Co.~.,�. ?�'e? 1i�, secor.ded 'u}� Cor.:--.. Gatt ; tr. cont�n«e thi_s
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