PC 06-14-72 CITY OF CUFERT L?JO , STt1TE OF CALI_�OR;�IA P� �F'+
1.0�00 Tr�rr� Avenue, C:s�7erti.:zn, C?li�ornia f'a�;e 1
Te1e �:zone : 252-!+505
?•iINUTES OF T:;E ADJOliR:�:':�D R�'GULAR P:.A"i��T�;G COrL�tISSTOi+ << F�T�(i
�Ci:�:LD OP; JL'+:�L 14, 1'>72 I`� T�:l� COC;NCZL C�.�1:`:�ER, CITY HALL
CLP�RTIV��, CAi,IF'ORi�IA
T?�e meeti_n� Taas called to order o5 Ctiairmari �uther_uth at 7:32 P:�I.
P.OLL CALL
CorTM?.�i. present: qri�.ms, Gat�o (7 :45) , iiell_is, Chairrna^ �:uther.�.zth
Comm. absent: 0'neeTe
Staff present : Dir�ctor. of � lannin5 and Deve]_o�fient Sis':: (�' :/�S)
Assistant Cit,a Attorney (7:!��)
Assistant Plann��r Co::an
Associate F:ng� neer ��'i�te�
Recordin� �ecretur;� Loiv �.n��aa.rc;��
:;F.��' :�USIid�SS
l. Con��icler�tian ci a�iendr�tent to cor.ditio.i�. o` a»p�oval attac�e�
t�' �PP, :�c_ati�r.s ��-Z--71, 6-V-7�_ and 1.��-T'rl--il -- i'ez.n'n�ton-
.. � Ca�:ialda; �.ope�t_�r located �:-est�r.i;- of and au�acer�c to F�azu}�
Lane, appro::i:�att�l>� �00 feet nortr of S�evens Creeri Rlvd.
The Assistant Planr.er eYplained that ir_ order for '�`r. Pennin=ton Harsh:�,
�O ��; able to C��VE�J�? :!1S PY'O�ET't�' �?2 .1c?� Y ' a-�� LTOIlt,?:,E'_ � 2�r��G=i1�C?
, to ur. c..0 � _
fror,� �ir. Car�iarda; tiiererore, the Ca::.ardn land:=, �.re izlcl_ured in t:�e
tent�tive map. ^�1r. �'ennin�ton ieels there is a har.d�:h�p :�ere
be�.aus� M� . Camarcia is not prepared to develop ni� proper ty� a� tni; .
ti;�? a�id he does not ;ai�h to put in the �treet ir,ipro5���7ent.s at tili
time.
�'t�e Associate �IIb1R�e1 said the Department nf F���lic �•�ori:s �� Re,=:�ons3_����.t
.,YEL'�aT�C�i t0 accept OR1.`-' CIIE.' dedicatior_ c�t t�11S t�'IlC' LL"O."`. �.�i?i18rC�S LCT i.'..?;;1:?i=.U^
��_nce O111V a minor amount O� IS'_:Q 1.� 1riVO�VE<i lii tili S Fi'�� i1.CStl'Jil. � c'7?;:i i_':'�Y�,V :,P2i1�:
Coz:um. �Iel.iis �u�stioned �ahat �:iarar.tee the Cit�� �ac�_�� d then h.:jve
as to pay^;ent for tize improve:�ent� ,?a`�ene�.�er ttzey �re ?>Lr in.
D15CL15S�DI1 t011.00dE'.(�. 1.'lE t�S51::t�:lt r2C� f�� �Oi,�:°y .±dl�{ t:l� l.'1t.;'
does not jeo�ardiz� itself in a::5� :aay b}> not acceA�tir�;; t't�e de.�ica--
tion right-of-�aa} .
PG-64 MINiJTES OF �r�ir JTJPdL 14, 1972 ADJOURN�D REGUI,AR PLANNI:•aG COPL^tI5SI0^1 MEETING
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��ppli.cant A1r. Robert O�dham, Civil Engineer ��lith Mar:: Thomas Associates, San Jose,
doesn`t want said the reason r_hey want to hold o�f witil the dedication of the
to bother Caraarda nroperty is that Mr. Camarda is o�✓er 8C v�ars old and liis
elderl;� only desire at this ti::le is to be left alone to live cut his life on
.�Ir. Ca:�arda his property. l:e is an old-time rancher and prob.abl•: ;�ouldn't under-
stand if someone tr�ed to ex�lain tilis �,�tter to him. Mr. Oldha�l
couldn`t see any advantage cr disadva:ta;e ahether or not the 10 feet
are dedi.cated at this tirne, If_ the prcpert-�- re�;a.ins in the ha:ids of
Ca�:�arda and an LID is forrn�d to improve Vista Drive, t'.ze matter �aill
resolve itself . All land f or tiie street dedication u.�culd �iave to be
acquired For ti�e LID, and if this property is dedicated now, it �JOUId
be that much less to credit to the propert,� o�m�r at LID time,
Unir.�proved The Associate Engineer said the Uniraproved Street Or<�inance will go
S�reet Orc�. into effect probably after the micdle o� July. T'��e City miQht �aish
to ge in and improve t::e street and collect for tne improve-�ents at
the time the property is Zeveloped.
A ma? sho��ing the plan line t�as studied. Tile P�a: n:ing Director said
ir�provement or Vista Drive r�a;- be considered at t:le time the Torre _
Avenue extension is done. '
T�:rouoh the discussions, it appeared evident that ser:tething mi�st be
done within t years. The a�plicant ?.;�as advised t:�at t:�e be<��. course
of action NJOUld be for him to discuss the matteT �aith Mr. Car.larcia and/or
his son, r1r. Penn:i7;gtcn inciicated that ti ;e is o� r_;ze essence. i�is •
obli�`,ations are in and he :.ants to get goinr on hi� �eveloprye�t.
Chairr�an ;3uthenuth noted tha� w;:atever ���as decided at ti�is meeting,
Mr. Fennin;ton T,:ou1d have t��:�e to contact Mr. Ca�� be�ore the next
City Council meeti_ng.
rloved by Comm. GaLto, secor�ded by Cor Ne11is to reccm-nend to the
City Council tr�at the Cit,� does in effect reruire ded�cation for future
Taider�ing at this tire ar�d tt�e stardard conditions be amerded to a�1ow
the apnlicant to defer any fina^�cial obli��ation,^ for the irnTrove-�ent
of Vista Drive along parcel D and also to defer pa;T�ent of st.orr�
drainage fees for parcel D until suc:� time as the prcperty develops.
Amendment: rlade by Comm. Adams, seconded by Com�. Gatto to delete
the word "defer" in t�ao places in the above r. and replace �f.Ti�t
the word "delay"
Vote on the ariez�dment :
A�ES: Comm. Adams, Gatto, :�eliis, Chairm�_n Buthenutiz
1v0ES: None
A�STNT : Comm. 0'I�eef e
Ar.�endment carr �e�i, 4-0
MINUTLS OF THE AT�JOiJR��ED JUNF. 14, 19?2 PLLI:VNIN� COMi"t. �1EETING P�-64
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Vote on the r.zotion:
AYES : Comm. A.dams, Gatto, ;:e11�s, C.iairman F�llt:��'Lll1t�1
i;OES : None
A �S�:1T : Comm. 0 `.:�ef e
Motion carried, 4--0
2. �*arf Report of Zoilin� Re;ulat�oiis Pertainin� to ti.e
Keeping o£ :torses.
The Assistant Planner referred to the starf rep�rt on this, He P�an;� cit�•r.ens
5aid t�� is recei_ving 2-3 calis per day �rom peop?_e r•,ho :•-azt to � �aant to k�ep
'nave iiarses on t�ieir prop:rr_y. Ri�'.�t no�;., RL O�din�nce sa�s no, norses
A1 is the oniy zone at the present t;_ine in tize City of Cupert�no �
where norses are all��aed.
:�Ir. Martin ::asik, 11496 Lind}� Lane, Cupert�no, said he has l.� �cr
in an Rl zone.
Comm. Gatto wanted to �cnow ho�. much ].a�d is needed to co�iortabl; Factors to :e
�c_eep a horse, and another factor he �e�.t sYhould be considerea L� consi.dered
access to riding trails wit�lout goirlo down publ�c str.eets. �
Cnai_rman Buthenuth said fiorses cause a satiitar. y proble-: and they I i?orses not
are not very cumpati�le with nei�nbors. He �eel_s thF �resent i co-.naatihle
., ="ordznance is a �ood one. Com.�1. Ada�:s agreed. ::e also noted that � ir%residenc�s
the Ordinance �:las enacted before the develoF�ent oi tais proper*_y.�
Co�nm. ilellis �aas sympathetic �;;it=. those people �aiio �,�aant to keep Ci_t.; sh�u1-:
horses. The C�ty should encourabe thi_s but it s:iould be done in e�tabL�s}t
the proper pl_ace. �he .�:ould li�ce the Ci,tS� to loor� into ttle tra
possibility of a trail system tor horsebac:� rid_n�.
The Assistant Yianner ansc.ered Cnair��a� Buthenutn t'�.at t:�e City
was co:�s�dering an ordina:�ce d couple of vears aro to prchibit
:.orses on Ci�_y stre_ets, but it �tias never enacted.
Comm. Gatto felt t�:at ::�e should have 4 zoni�g 1.�,tt�rn to provide Be•�'ic�te �:or
iOr ilOT'SE':�. C.I1�L'iYI11.c1T1 iillt:IlC'ritlt:: iE'..Zt tilat WilE.'Li F7c St��t PI.SIiI11Ilg tT�_ilS =i1 .ilil_!.'
ttie 'r�ill develop-�ent tiiis could be done. As p�ople dedicate tor
streets in t:1e hills i�e �aould 1i�:e to :�a�,�� them .,:iso dedicate �o�
riding trails '�or horse� and lor bir_,;cles. The �;taLf w_as aslcel to
� nursue ttiis.
As to the m�atter at: .�a.^.d, the A,si�tant Cit�r A�tor_ne�� Cul�1 the la��
is nrctty clea.r on tiLi_s wiier.eb; v:�u can't grant a�.�ariance *or
t}ie�reason= stated. �tr. Kasik referred to Crcinanc� 506, but ;t
i�as appointed rhat Ordinance did not apply to }i:i.s type zonin�,.
^�.- ;ii:dUTES OP Tl?'� JUi�F� �4, 197? �'�DJOUR�;L]) I'!.:1:\';�N�� CC�^"?1:;:�Lc?:. "ii.i:TI�;G
t' �,:�� 4
Com-1. ::ellis s��id t?:e nuisa:.zce does not c�on'_�i.�7e itsel± t�i_t;1in �
IlOrS° �7I0��1t'y� �lI1C_'�. �`IY'. :..i.i7.!: S�l�i `'<lmc_ �CVi),I.E: ��t:E.' �'lO�SG'S
�_tid some 1_ike ,r,otorc}-cies; batii h�v �_;i^ ui�pl.ea:.::nt ._icle e_fects.
3. Discuss:�on of Revised 2onin� Orainance 2e��ie Schedule.
�:`��,. ��ac� � it •.�as decided that Co--�;�. Gatto and Ci�:�rria:� Buthertith ;��u�d �•:�rk cn
.' :E. �$t:� r_};e Open Sp�.ce Ordinar.ces. They will meet in the Conference Foom at
:3� P:�1 ;:30 F:1 on 1:eci;:e:�dav Jui�� %�t:�.
4. Discussion: `Jrban �e Areu/Oper. �pace Ele-^.e:�t
�'r.`�a�1 Jt''r'.'1Ce The Pi.aan�n;; Direct^r sr_ated that soor.er. �r ls�er t:�e Citv -::ill ado�t
,I r�� �:all �?'_" DeV e� O�)iT?�I?L : U L1CV . �i2 �,r3".t�G� t0 �? 1SCll �� �.•? _ttl tri°_ i'lannin�
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E'�eer, esta�lisi�eu and a�:��ted t�y �.AFCO. `�e do at t�::is t �:�� orovi.de
� Lr�.=n ser�ice (�.•.�� ter) to the :'cr;:;:,ne-�te pr��pert_- and are'. consicc�ri���
! tt:e p��ss�cilic�• o= ererc�sin� su�-�e cor.tro;_s �n : err iie �_s�ze:� `
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t tilt. Co�.r.�ss_oners i� t?ev �el_ it is lo�,ical to con�irier Per,:��in�nt._
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� in our urb-�:� de,�elopr.,ent area. Discuss�_on �cllo��:ed.
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at t'_:is tir��.
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� costs to �et tii��J ce up t? One i��poiL3ilt r__ues��.on to r°sclve
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6 =�ad tiiin:� abcur tnat i�= �it coul�� di�-�cie properties.
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ATTEST: ' APPRQVED:
!/s/ k'rn. E. Ryder ^ /s/ �ohn W. 13uthent�th
� City Clerk ' Cha�rman
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