PC 10-24-66 10300 Torre Avenue
Cupertino, California, 9501�+ Phone: 252 -�+505
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MINUrES OF THE REGULAR P2E�ING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
October 2�+, 1g66 8:ov P.M.
Held in the Board Room, Cupertino Elementary School District ��fice,
10301 Vista Drive, Cupertino, Californi�.
I SALUTE TO THE FLAG
TI ROLL CALL: Minutes of previous meeting, 1G/1G�66
Comm. present: Bryson, Buthenuth, Fxolich, Hor�an, Hirshon
Comm. absent: None
Staff present: Director of Public Works, Frank I�'inney
City Attorney, Sam.Anderson
City Engineer, Bob Shook
Assistant Planner, Jim Nuzum
Recording Secretary, Lois Inwards
Moved by Comm. Buthenuth, seconded by Comm. Bryson, to approve the
I�inutes o� October 10, 1.g66
Motion carried, 5-0
III A1�INOUNCEMENT OF POSTPONEMENTS, etc .
14-U Mr . Walter Ward, Va11co Park Genexal Manager, has requested that
application 14-U-66 be postponed indefinitely.
M1NtfrE ORDER: Moved by Corur�. Bryson, seconc?ed by Co�n.. Hor�an, that
application 1�+-U be clropPed of'�' calendar.
Motion carried, 5-0
81�004.12 The Chamber of Commerce's proposed changes to the Si� Ordinance
have been received by the Plannin� Department. The Santa Clara-
Santa Cruz County Builders' Association plans to have their pro-
posed changes ready �rithin a week. The Assistant P1a.nner recommended
Item VI E be post�oned until the November 14th Planning Conunission
meetin�, � �
Chairma.n Iiirshon asked ifi there were any comments,from the audience
There were none.
Moved by Comm. Fralich, seconded by Comm. Horgan, that the public
hearing on the Si�n Ordinance be postponed until November l�th.
Motion carried, 5-0
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PC-R20 Minutes of thQ Oct. 24, 1966, P18.nx�in� Cammission Meeting
TV WRITTEN COMI�IUNICATIONS �
There were none.
V VERBAL C Ob9M[INICAT I ONS
There orere non� .
VI HEARTNGS SCHEDULID: .
7-TM A , WARD CRUMP DEVELOPMEA.�TS: Tentative Map, property adjacent to and
westerly of Stellin� Park, Tract 3916 �+.56 acres. First Hearing.
A4r. Crump said the Planning Commission has seen this before; this is
merely for approval of the Tentative Map. The Assistant Planner
stated he had ctzecked it a�ainst Planning Commission Resolution 288
with 9 conditions attached and it complies. He said the County
feels there is need for a walkway throu�h the praperty to the school;
however, the school district does not feel �this is urgenic.
The Director of Public �•lorks coanmented on the storm drainage problem
and explained the storm.drain route. The Ci Attorney cautioned
that if we are going to reserve something thexe should be some nota-
tion made of thi.s intent on the Tentative Map, according to the
amendment to the Subdivision Ordinance. A4r. Crum� said that if this
was the case, he wished to �,rithdz�aw his Tentative Map application.
Comm. Hor6an asked about underground utilities. Mr. Crump said that
�rherever there are not already poles existing, he will �o either
underground or streamlined, whichever the City prefers.
The Director of Public Works recammended continuing the Public Hear-
ings in order to �et the drainage problem resolved.
Mr. Jim Inglehart, 1140 Janice Way, San Jose, representing the School
District, said their only concern is t'c�a� they are not cut off
completely. The Director said the line is to serve the Nathanson,
Page, and school property. A2r. Crump couldn't see why this line
cauldn't go on the undeveloped land that it is to serve rather than
his.
The City Attorney said it is to protec� the applicant more than
anyone to get,some formal indication at Tentative Me.p time what con-
ditians will be imposed at Fina1 Map time. Tt�en_k�e will not be
caught unawares. He quoted Section 3:3 1 of the 3ubdivision Ordinance.
Mr. Crump said he sides �rith the School District in regard to a side-
wa3.1�'between two fences. Past experience wi.th this type setup has
proved unsatisfactory.
Moved by Co�nm. Iiorgan, seconded by Comm. Bryson, to continue the
First Hearing.
AYES: Comm. Bryson, Buthenuth, Frolich, Horgan, Hirshon
NAYS: None Mation carried, 5-0
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PC-R20 Minutes of the Oct. 2�, 1966, Planning Cor.�mission Meeting
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10-U-66 B. MERRY TIP�TES DAY NURSERY: Use Permit to operate a day nursery
at 10312 Blaney Avenue. First Hearing (ae novo).
Nr. Tracy Tumlin, 12378 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, Sarato�;a,
attorney for Mrs. Hiram, reviewed the facts involved in this case:
The first objection raised was that of the traffic potential and
increased danger to children �oing to the school on the adjacent
property. He displayed a parking diagram which has been altered
to make in�ress and egress easier.
The second objection regarded tinies: Mr. Tumlin stated that work-
ing mothers drop the children off lon� before the school chi]-dren
c�rill be going to schoal and picl� them up after school is out . �de
are talking about roughly 18 cars altogether. There are about �+CO
students in this school a.nd the crossing guard estimated about 75
students would be passing here about 8:10 A.N1. and again at 3_P.M.
As to the question of creeping commercialism, this property is
like a thumb stic?iing out from the surrounding subdivision. It is
a.n older, run-dor,,m house, bordered by the school �rounds and Blaney
Avenue. If the applicant is �;ranted the Use Permit, it will be
painted, landsca.ped and �'enced and will give a much better a�pearanc�e.
There will also be a buffer between this property and the adjoining
residential proper�y.
Mr. Tumlin does not feel these 25 children will be a significant
factar since there are 400 at the school. Further, they ��rill be
indoors most of the tim e, with a morning and af'ternoon outdoor
play peribd.. This is more a quasi public use, simila,r to the school
next door.
The Assistant Planner said the staff still feels the use is proper
for this property.
Mr. Warren Dunn, 1985�+ Bay�aood Drive, feels this nursery schnol
irould be an asset rather than a detriment to the neighborhood.
� I�Ir. Roger Morphey, 1C370 N. Blaney, presented a petition with 1�+3
signatures of people against this application. He cited the fol-
lowin�; reasons: 1) It would in�roduce commercial enterPrise into
an entirely residential neighborhood. 2) There would be a direc�
impact on the neighborhood and property values. 3) It would tend
to localize'traffic congestion. He wondered if this application
y�ould take �he fo�n of a rezoning or business license.. Iie raised
the question of oThether or not this would be cate�orizec�. as a Iiome
Occunation: Chairman Hirshon asked the City Attorney �.S' it is
proper for this to come under a Use Permit application. '�he City
Attorney said this is permissable.
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PC-R20 Minu�eo o£ thc Oct, 2�J� 1���� Plarm ing Comn�issxon Meetiri�
Mr. Robert Appleby, 11990 Pear Tree La,ne,Cupertino, said his property
is adjacent to crhat yrould be the play a.rea of �he nursery. He said
the �arimary nurpose of this business is a child care center and does
not deal ;�*ith education; therefore, bein� near a school has no rele-
vance. Further, the noise from the school comes at re�ular hours.
This day care center will operate from 6 A.M. to 6 P.M. and perhaps
silc days a�ree?L and twelve months a year. The r�lay time would not be
regu].ated to a certain tix;:e of the ciay. The schooi, t�rith �00 students,
is on 6; acres t�rhereas here we would have 30 children on a small lot.
And if a person's property bordexed a day car center it would not
l�ave the resale potential that it taould if next door to another
resiclence.
Mr. Appleby said the present location�of the Merry Times Nursery in
Santa Clara is on completely eommerciaS property. It is simiZar
to Stevens Creel: Blvd. or Sara,toga-Sunnyvale Road, and �he residents
believe it should stay on that type street rather than a residential
street. He said it is unfortunate that the applicant has Zost money
purchasing this property, thinking he has the Use Permit, but this
just isn't so.
Mr. Robert.Jacobson, 10311 N. Blane�r, feels there yrould be � traffic
problem and presented a diagram ilZustratin� this. He does not believe
we can allow cars to pull directly up ta a sehool fence, beca.use
sooner or later it wi.11 be �arred or bent.. There is only a one-way
drivewa.y into the property and this could cause in�ress and egress
problems. Parents are required to ta�ke the children into and out of
the buildin� and this could cause congestion.
Mr. Jacobson said they had someone observing the A�ierry Times rlursery
at its present location. Between 7:30 and 8 A.M. there were 7 cars;
Uetween S and 8:30 there were 13 cars; bettreen 8:30 and 9 A.M. there
Vrere 5 caxs. Five of the cars pulled up on the wrong side of the
street to let the children off. Another pulled only half way into
the drivetiaay. Pexhaps if they came to this 3ocation tliey would pull
into the school driveway and drop off the chilaren there.
Yy?r. Morphey said 2.25�0 of the 428 families in the area have school �
and pre-school chiZdren and working mothers. I�e wondered if they
ti�ould avail themselves of this day ca.re center. ''
Nir. Dunn said that when Wolfe Road opened it took a tremendous load
off Blaney and the addition aF 20-25 cars would not have any effect
tirhatsoever.
Mr. Massey Utsunomiya, 172? Eberhart Street, Santa Claxa, said he
soZ3 the property to t�irrs.Hiram. He said they are not interested in
the noon crossing, only the mornin� and af'ternoon. The working mothers
pick up the children after 5 P.M. when presumably all the school children
have ler"t. N1r. Jacobson sai.d there is supervised ai`ter-school
recreation until 6 P.Pd.
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PC-R2C MinutES of the Oct. 21+, i96b Planning Commission P�Ieeting
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Attorney Tumlin reminded them that this is a Use Permit, which is
revokable. This is not excZusively an R-1 area because there is
alreac�y a school here. He can't think of a better place to put
a nurserv school. The worst location for a nursery school �aould be
on commercial property. He daes •:not feel it ti•rill be significant in
affecting pro�erty values. The hours will be from 7 A.P•S. to 6 P.N�.,
5 days a week. They will be small.children, therefore a sma11
play yard is adequate. The City Pla�ner has stated that there is
amp].e parkin� provided, and that turn ar�ound maneuvers would be
si�rple . -
Mr. A�pleby does not feel 36' is adequate for a car to come in and
turn around so they can go forward anto Blaney.
Mr. Tumlin, in explainin� the buffer.�zone, said most of the archard
would reinain and e solid wood fence was proposed. The Hirams would
be to make a circle driveway in front, if this is the wish of
the neighborhood and the Comm3.ssion.
Mr. Jaeobson asked the applicant if they have licensed teachers.
He was told they are licensed by the Social t�elfare in San Francisco.
They have rules by which they must abf,de.
Cami�:. Buther.uth Vrondered if the proposed parking layout would tend
to encourage backing out onto Blaney. The Assistant Planner said
it is desi�ned so that people �ril�. be able to back up and turn
around. However, 2 vehicles could not pass in the driveway. The
Director of Public Worlcs said the average number is 8000 vehicles
per day on Bianey. Ei�hteen more or less cars would not be sig-
nificant. There is more than enough room to park in frant and
deposit the children in the nursery. He feels the traffic is the
least significa,nt o� the problems p�esented.
Moved b�t Comm. Horgan, seconded by Comm. Frolich, to close the
Fublic Hearings.
f AYES: Comm. Bryson, Buthenuth, FroZich, Horgan, Hirshor�.
� NAYS: None
Motion carried, g-0
�+iavec� by Comm. Iiorsan, ��cond�a by Co�mu. euthenut;h, to deny Use
Permit application 1C-U-66 in view of the argunients presented
. �onight and the fact that it was denied previously by the City
Council.
AYES: Comm. Buthenuth, Hor�an, Hirshon
t P1AYS: Comm. Bryson, Frolich
� � Motion carried, 5-0
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PC-R2Q Minutea o� tt�e Oct. 2�t 1�66, P7.a,nnin.g Cnmr:iission Meeti.r_g
Chairman Hirshon advised �t.ie applicant of his ri�ht oi' appeal to �Che
City Cauncil, in zaritin,�, �ri.thin five days .
Chairm�,n i3irshon called for a recess at 9;27. T�ieeting reconvened
a� g:35 F.r2.
13-U c .. WARNER tiJILSON: Use Permi� for automobiie accessories a.nc� ap-
�?li�,nce store on Stevens Creek Blvd., LE87 feet east of the
Cunertino Pos�; Office. First Hearing.
Architect Edwin Mey�rs, 10601 South Iiigh��ay �, Cupertino, presented
the Commission ti�ri.th a floor plan ancl elevations of the 14' high
structure and a �lot �lan.
P�2r. Harry rlcCu�, o� the T'irestone Company, V�as present to explain
tlle operation. He said they wi?l sell applia.nces as well as auto
accessories. There �•Till be 8 stalls fox installation of items pur-
chased in the store. Iie said they are proposing for this location
a Firestone store lii�e about 1200 others, many of zahich are located
in shoppin� centers and doz,�n tot�m centers. The facility includes a
retail sa�les store and other appliances, 1at4m-garden.supplies, etc.
He brou�ht along some pictures of some of the types of products
they sell. They do not perform any heavy ti�rork or muffler worli on
vehicles. The architecture of the stare is modern. They do not
operate a gara�e...no motor tuneups.
The Assistant PZanner said the Plannin� Director is on vacation.
The Planning Depart��ent ha•s previously stated that it taas desirable
that i'acilities oz this sort shauld be concentrated on Stevens G2eek
Blvd. between Blaney Avenue and Highs�ra�r 85 and perhaps a smaller area
south of t'ne Totian Center on Iiighway 85. The Planning Department re-
commends against tha.s a}�plication because �Che noise, etc., could
detra.ct from development of a first class commercia� district in
this area.
Comrt�. Horgan comn�ented that he was sarry the "quaint English Villa�e"
�Tent doim the drain. I�Ir. Meyer explained that this proposed Firestone ;
store i,ri.11 become a part oz the Safe��ray, Crocker-Citi2ens, etc.,
complex. It will not e:�tend into the En�lish village area.
Mr. j�larner t�lilson said the Firestone store will be in front o� the
site o� a junior department store. He �eels that since this type
use is founc? acros.s ttZe street and another down the�s�reet, that it
Vrould be com�atible. He said the En�lish villabe is�t,.o be built
around and in baclz oi' the e.�istin� old house. It was neve.r contem-
plated that they ti>>ould pu.t English style structures arpund the pro-
pose�.Firestone building location.
Comm. Bryson said tizis is commercial zonin� and this is a neat �
operation. Further, the type person t�rho ��ill deal at thiu store will
not c�eal at a discoun� store.
Chair�.an ��irshon c�oes not feel this proposal ti�rauld be compatible with �
the City's plans for t'nis axea. Conun. Hor�an aareed. .
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PC-R20 Minutes of tne Oct. 2�, �g66 Planning Comrnission R�eeting
Pdr. Rick 1�nderson, of Gunn-I��Iiller Realtors, feels the need �oes hand
in hand with the use. Fires�tone ha�s evidentally made a survey of
the area and must feel this type operation t�rould be a success in
- �his location.
i�Toved by Comm. Frolich, seconded by Comm. Horsan, to close the
First Hearir�.
AYES: Comm. Bryson, Bu�henuth� Frolich, Horgan, �iirshon
1VAYS : None
P•Zotion carried, 5-0
VII UNFIl�?ISFTED BUSIN�'SS -- There ti�a,s none.
VIII NEW BUSINESS:-- There was none.
IX ADJ OL'rRNMENT
Moved by Comm. Bryson, seconded by Comm. I�'rolich, to ad�ourn
the meeting at 10:30 P.M.
APPROVED:
/s/ Jac'� Hirshon
Chairman
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