PC 09-12-66 10�.21 South Sarato�a-Sunnyvale Road
Cuper�;ino, California Phone : 252-
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MINtTTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF TH� PLANNING COMMISSION
September 12, 1966 8:0� P.M.
Held in �he �oard Room, Cupertirio�.� Elementary School D3:stric'c,
10301 V3sta Drive, Cuperi,ino, California
I� SALUTE TO TH:� FLAG � e _ .
II ROLL CALL: Minutes of` preuiotas meetin�, 8/22/66
Comm. presen'c : Bu�;henuth, Frolich, Hor�an, Hirshon
Comm, absent:, Bryson
Staff pres�nt': _ 'Ci�i�y. Attorney, . �am And�rson
Director oF , PLib�.�:c` Works,, Fran�c Finne�r
Director oi Pl��nning, AdcTe La.urin
Assistan'c Planner, �'im Nuzum
Chief Buildirig_Inspector, Bill B.enevich �
�' '` � Recording S�c;:retary, I�ois Inwards
� Movecl �by �:Comrn. -But�enuth, seconded by Comm. Hor�an, �o
approve the Minute.s of Augtzst 22,�1�bb.
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� AY�S: Comm. Butfienuth, Frolich, Hor�an, Hirshon
NAYS : None
� ABSEN'F: Comm, Bryson_
, Mot3.,on carried, 1 I-0
ZII ANNOUNCEMEI�T OF POSTPONEMENTS, etc.
There �iuere none.
IV WRITTEN CO^�MUNICATIONS
There were no`rie.` �
V VERBAL COMMUrtICAT�ONS :
� There were none. �
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PC-R17 Minutes o� ti�e 9/12/66 Planning Commission Meetin�
VI HEARINGS SCHEDUL�D:
l�-U-�6 A. MERRY TIMES DAY NURSERY: Use PermiL �o operate a day
L!-U-66 nursery a� 10312 Blaney Avenue. First Hearin��.
Attorney Tracy N. Tum3in, 12378 Sara�oga-Sunnyval� Road,
Saratoga, presented photos of 'che buildinG as it appears now,
as well as �clie proposed'Iayout. Ac present, the pro�er�y is
resident3al and is in need of pain'c and landscapin�,,� '�n
the basis of the Plannin�� Cornmission's approval Li��
applicani, coml�lei,ed the purchase .of 'cile proper�y`. They
were later ini'ormed that the Plannin� Commiss.:�on ac'cion
was bein� appealed to the City Counczl, and 'clze �Council
subsequen'cly denied the Use Permit,,, nQ�e primar� c.oncern
mentioned in �che appeal was the in�r�:ased traffic and
whe'cher i�c v�oL�ld presen� any dan�;er for the school chi3.dren
�oing to and i rom Portal School.�
At'corney Tumlin does not feel t11is vaill be a problem in
thaL 80f oi the children will Ue droppet� of�' at the
nursery bsT wor�cing parents, ��uell i� �:t����Yce af the i,ime
children will be walking to school,�- &� wil�, be pic�.ed up
aFter all c�ze school children have ��ft fQr Ylome. He saxd
there is ade�uate room for 'che vell�.c�,�s to stop in the
parkin� lot to let the children ou�� �urn around, and.�o
forward ou� yhe driveway. There is no ��`�� to back out
onto Blanc-�T. Pur'cher, he said we ar� �V�;�C�'n� about roughly
18 cars daily. He spoke wi�h the Pri���;���1 of' Por�al
School, who did not feel there taould b� any great dan�er.
Most of the drivers who will be brin�ing their chil�.r�n to
the nursery will be workin� mothers, and will na�urall;r
be extra careful.
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As to creepin� commercialism, Attor�z2j� '�urr��i� sa?d �he i
application is not for a r.�zoni�;;� i'� �.s mereiy a Use
Peri�nit and there is no possibi3i�� oi �any other use goin�
in there. The Planning Department info rmed him 'chis mi�ht
be considered a quasi public use, o?��ra�ed 1�y priva��e
citizens. H� said it v�ill enhance tl�e va�c�e of the area
with its ex�ensive landscaping and addi�:ional ience,
shielded Uai��h hed�es. They also plan �o paint th� s'crvc-
ture. There Uaill only be a small, c�iscreet identific�t�on
sign. �� �
In regard to the potential noise �o--emanate from this type
business, A�torney Tumlin feels ���is i� noi; r��.evan�c since
all the houses there back onto �'h� s-cl�ool grounds. The
children a�c tne nursery tiaill on�.y havc limited ou'cdoor
play �;ime in their schedule.
The Assistan'c Planner said tl�at, basical�y, the application �
is the same as 'che previous one and �i1e staff's recommenda-
tions are the same as before. ��,�.�,,;.��,:.
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PC-R17 Minutes oi' '�lze 9/1.2/66 Planning Commission PZeetin�
Mr. Rober�� Appleby, 19990 Pear Tree La.ne, Cupertino, re-
presented �hose neighbors in oppasii;ion to this Use Permit.
He said the P1�.nning Commission Minu�es of �April 11, 1966
presen�ced 'cr7� ar`�;uments in favor of ��his Use Permi �, and
�che City Cot?ncil Minutes of May 2, �.966 present the
ar�umenL a�ainst it. Reasons presen'ced by the opposi�ion
Vaere :
1. This �raould introduce a commercial enterprise into a
completely residen�ial (R1) area.
2, The direc� impact ori the adjacen� property ovaners and
their nei;hbors and would place in �eopardy�their
proper'cy values.
3. It would tend 'co increase traffic unr�er normal as
well as ixzclement s�lea�her conditions.
The City A�i,orne�r stated tha'c i.n o�i.h�r cities, an appl�.ca-
�ion may no�c come up a�ain for a period of less thaM one
year af�cer a. ruling. Ii thEre is a ma'cer3.a1 chan�e, ' it
should be in �he power of the Plannin„ Commission or the
City Council to revie�r� i� a�ain. There is no Ordinance
in Cuper requiring a waitin� period of one year.
Mr. MasseJ U�suno.miya said the Hirams ��aere notified that
their Use Permit was approved. No ob�ections were raised
during the Planning Commission Hearin�s. On.this basis,
the applicant went ahead vaith escro�v on the property,
In addition, there was no time or opportunity for pre-
paration o�' a rebu'ctal at the Cit� Council levzl. Mr.
� Utsunorniya fe1.�t there were material fac'cors involved here :
timir��, and no dan�er to �he children due to cars backing
out onto Blaney 11v�nue.
� Chairman Hirslzon said there tivere matters brou�ht up by
the opposii,ion at the Cit�r Council lev�l which were not
heard at i.i�e Plannin� Commission level.
The City A c �orne�T said perhaps �;he applicant' s remedy
is in t71e CoLtrts. The Plannint, Comi�nission coul.d not
pa.ss a Resolui,ion sta'cing the applicant did not gei, a
fa'ir Hearin� at the City Council level.
Comm. Frolich tiaondered if, ra�cher than have �he appli-
cation re�rietived by this body, perhaps �clie applican�
should go to tize City Council under Ylardship or some-
�hin�. Comtn. Hor�an did not feel i�c vaould be pro�er
to deny the application because that mi�ht convey the
wrong impression.
Mr. Utsunomiya said he feels they were denied a fair
Hearing at the Ci'cy Council. because a� �he end of �lze
Hearing he raised his hand to speal� ancl he ti�aas told �he
Hearing Uaas closed and �ha� the mattier was finished.
He feels the Hearing should have been reopened.
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PC-R17 Minut�s ox" 'cile .Q/12/6.6 Plannin� Commission Meetin�
The PlanninU Direc�or said - che location 3.s presentlf in
the County, Y�u� pa.pers for anne�ation to Cupertino have
been filed. Tl1is, to�;ether v�aith an ur�en'c need for the
building, crea�ces a complicated si�uacion, and has re-
sulted in �che i iling of applications i or Use Permi'� uefore
the Plannin� Cornmiss3.ons of both i,he City and County.
The simples� solu�ion seems to be that the Plannin� Com-
mission, if i�c pleases the Commission, tiaould ap�rov� the
application, subject to annexa this��approval would
�uide the Coun�c�r� Planning Commission in considerin� a
temPorary Use Permit. An approval should have the con-
dition a'c�acl�ed tha� McClellan RQad is to be comple�ed
'co 30' from �he c�nterline.
The Direc�cor oi' Public ?�torks said tlzis is a rather unusual
situa"cion. He does no'c know at tl�is i,ime whether i'c is
advisable �co mal�e the si,ree'c improvements beeause �j�e .
�resent ali�nmeni, is so bacl; Perhaps McClellan Road
should be reali�ned. He feels it is ex�remely hazardous
from the s�andpo�.n'c oi t�1P fire en;ines. Perhaps vae
could indvice �he County to study Lhe real�.gnment of
McClellan a this time.
The City 1�#;'corney said that, based on the history of the
friendship of lon� standing be�ween the City and �cl1e Fire
Distric�c, he recommended the Plannin; Commission �ran�
the Use Permi�, feeling sure thaL the Fire Districi, t�aill
cooperate in put�in� in the improvements, where and t^�hen
necessary.
Mr. Mehus, 21972 McClellan, said he is opposed to placin�
a fire si,af;ion at this •location. He i'i,ures he would talce
a los� of ai, J,east �5000 on hzs proper�y, due to-the fact
that he lives next door �CO a fire stai,ion. He f'eels fire
sta�ions should Ue ke�t out on the main thorofares, or
in commercial or indus�rial areas. They have no place
in R� �dis�ricts. �
Mr. John Be�.l, 21�8� MeClellan, said he was opposed i,o
this locai,ion for the .fire s�a'cion mainly for the san�e
reasons . In addition, i�; is locai�ed in t�etween ttivo
hazardous �urns, and there are aboui, three auto accidents
there each month, If the road is v��idened, will i,Ylere
be enou�lz property left to build.a i'ire house on? How
much parlcin� area vai11 there be? Many things go on at fire
stations, oLher than figh�in� fires: re�istration of
bil�es, vo�in�, fire permits, etc.
Chief Luhrin�� said �hat 3 years a�;o he Yiad a surve�t �z�ade
of i,he fire ratin� in Lhe Cuper�ino area. Th� Pacific Fire
Raicin� Bureau recommended relocation to the east of 'che
Stevens Creelt Blvd. station and �Che acldition of ano��her in
the Monta Visi,a area. There will be amp1� parl:in�; in fror�c
of the sta�;ion. The structure will i�lend in very tlaell
with �he cornmunity.
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PC-R17 RZinutes of the 9/12/66 Plannin� Comtnission Meetin�;
Mrs. Donnalee Mehus, 21917 McClellan, had �he sarne objec-
tions as previously sta'ced. She Ila.s �een the Cox i ire s'ca�
'�3.on tivhich the Chief referred to and i'c does not loolc like
a residence; :it looks rnore li�.e a Eommercial structure.
Ft.2rther, she has learned that the Monta Vis�a s�ation will
no� ha.ve a shake roof as the one on Cox Avenue has; it will
have asbestos shingles.
Mr. Be11 asl:ed, if the Use Permit taere �ran��cl, woulcl -the
fire dis�,ric'c be required to put in kalinking warnin� li�hf;s?
He said ii; wottld be impossible for a i'ire truck con�ing
out of f;h� s�ation to get arou.nd the curves. The Chief said
b13.nkers could be discussed wi'ciz the City. He add�d f;Y�at
Johns-Manville tlZick-butt shin�les 1�•��.11 be used b�cause
Cupertino v�on't allow shake shin ;les.
Mr. Bell fei� the traffic on McClel.lan would increas� ancl
become even more hazardous, due to �l�e De Anza Jr. Co7.1e�e
and o�her neva schools in the area,
In answer �o Comm. Horgan's question, the Chief saic� this
property v�las purchased seven months a�o.
Mrs. Mehan said �;here is a steady si,ream of school children
from Kennedy and Lincoln Schools, tiaa11�3.ng alon� the pa�h
across this property because theix� parents vaon't allow
them to walk on tize hazardous McClellan Road.
Chairman Hirshon asked �vhat criterion ti�•las used to choose
this properi;y for a fire s �a'cion. Chief Luhring said they
used: �rowi�h of the area, the Junior Colle�e, the new
hi�h school, and the pat�ntial grot-�rth of Monta Vista.
Juanit;a McLaren, 10�01 N. Blaney, Cupertino, was conc�rned
about the hazardous route a f i��e en�ine would have 'co
follow. Sh� sungested that the Central Fire District
should inves�i�,ate the possibility of a location in '�he
Monta Vista area.
The Director of Public UJorks asl�ed i,he Chief if i� would
be possibl� �o �et one of the lar�;e r3��s around these
corners, The Chief said it would. Th� Director of Public
1�Jor��s said �he Board of Supervisors recommended tha�c
McClellan Ue 94' wide east of the ri�h�-an�le �urn.
The Chief ylas as��ed if there was some ur�ency here. He
said 'che n�ta snorkel wi�.l be del3.vered 3.n October and
they planned �co house it in this neti�a station until 'chey
can reloca�ce 'che Stevens Creek Blvd. s�ation. The COLil1'��l'
will hear �his application on Se�tem'uer 21st.
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�The City A'c��orney would like the �ount� to �he
loca�ion, since it is pres�ntly under uheir jurisdic�ion.
Comm. Froliclz fe1� any recommendation �rom this body
should inc1.L?de b].in�cin� warnin; li�;hts at the s'cation,
as well as Lraffic li�hts at the 90 de�ree�turns, wnich
1i�hts automa'cically tiuould turn red and stay tha't ti��ay
until after �he fire en�ine has ne�otiated those corners.
Mr. Gratan Hogan, 11067 Linda.Vis'ca_Drive, feels �his
].ocat3.on of the fire .station hasn' L be�n very we11 thought
out. It should be located on a nearby industrial or com-
mercial property in the area rather tha.n in a residential
area. Traific problems crea�ed by the station add �o an
already hazardot�s situation.
Chairman Hirshon feels the traffic problem out-balai�ces �che
fire protectio.n problem in this case.
Comm. Frolich said we don't have much levera�e to i;ry to
see that our plans for tha� area com� to fruition. He
would ra�Cher leave the decision up i.o zhe County because
the ,�urisdict3.on is theirs.
Chief Luhrin� said a survey of other properties available
in the area U�as made, but other locations were much too
expensive. He has to spend the taxpayers' money wisely.
Comm. Frolich proposed approval, sub,�ect to the standard
conditions, annexation, and the gran�ing of a Use Permit
by �he eoun�yr Planning Commission. He would also li�ce to
have the staff malce a report to the County so we don't
�ive them the idea our approval is delayed because of a
� mere formali'cy. The County should also exam3.ne the
problem. Comm. Frolich would like 'che staff to appear
at the County Plannin� Commission Hearin� or, at least
write a 1et'c�r about Cupertino's feelings on it.
Moved Uy Comm. Frolich, seconded by Comm. Horgan, i,ha�
the First Hearing be closed on application 11-U-66; that
the s�taff is requested to appear, if possible, or write
a letter to the County Plannin� Commission callin� a'cten-
tion to�the problems discussed durin� this Hearing and
to the concern of the reaidents in ad�acent areas. Our
Second Hea�ri.n� will be on Sept. 26th and we would appreci--
ate informai.ion back by then.
1�YES: Comm. Bu�chenu'ch, Frolich, Horgan, Hirshon
NAYS: None
t ABSENT: Comm. Bryson
` Motion carried, �!-0
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Recess was called at 9:50 P.M.; meeting reconvened a'c 10:05.
VIII NEW BUSINESS:
13-TM-65 A. WILLIAMSON-UI�OLEY:. I��ension of Tentative. Map.
Mr. James Williamson,�1051 Polk, Sunn�rvale, was present to
ask for an exf;ension of his Tentative Map, due to ti;ht
financing. The P1ann�ng Director said the Plannin�; De-
partment has no ob�ection, exeept i,hat he wan�ed to br3.n�
up the point of underground or streamlined utilities.
It mi�ht be considered not fair to require them now,
since the Ten�at3.ve Map has already been approved, UL�.t
on the other hand; neighboring developments now have
streamlined ut�ilities.
Juan�ta McLar�n said this property is ad,�acent to h�r
home, and all the neighbors approve of this; no'body
objects. She feels the applicant should be allowed �he
extension.
The Director of Public Work� had na objections. The
property is still raw; there are no draina�e problems at
� this time.
The.City At�orne� advised this applica'cion would be sub-
ject to the Ordinances,o�' the City.
Moved by Coram. Frolich, seconded by Comm. Buthenuth, to
approve application 13-TM-65 for exLension, with the
unders�andin� that now existing Ordinances for under-
�round utilities will be applied.
AYES: Comm. Buthenuth, Frolich, �organ, Hirshon
NAYS: None �
ABSENT: Comm. Bryson
Motion carried, �!-0
13-U B . A. L. CHAD�.JICK: Extension of Use Permit.
Mr. A. L. Chadwick, 2Q100 Stevens Creelc B1vd., reqLtested
extension of his Use Permit for an aui,omotive cen�er on
Stevens Creel:. B1vd., with the elimina�cion of that portion
referrin� �o an automatic car tiaash.. �
The Assistan'c Planner said the Pl.annin� Commission denied
�he Use Permit;, but the City Council approved it, and
therefore, �;he Planning Department recommends thai, �he
extension be �;ranted.
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Moved by Comm. Buthenuth, seconded b�r Comm. Horgan, 'chat
application 13-U-65 extension of Use Permit be approved,
with the deletion of the automatic car wash,
AYES: Comm. Buthenuth, Frolich, Horgan, Hirshon
NAYS: None
: ABSENT: Comm. Bryson
Motion carried, L'-0
VI HEARINGS SCH�.N;DULED �
81,OO�.I2 C. SIGN ORDINANCE N0. ;50: Revision of existin� Si;n
Ordinance No. 89. First Hearing.
The Plannin; Director said copies of �he second draft had
been sent out to P. G. & E., P. T. & T., Electric Si�n
Association and the Home Builders' A�sociation, as
well as Dr. Joseph Brown and Mr. t�lalter �1ard He
noted a reminder.by Mr. Walter Ward �ha� no provi-
sions for permanent subdivis3.on si�ns are 3.ncludec�;
they have a le�i�imate purpose in ceri,ain places.
The City Au�orney said that all such porticos should
be on privai,e property because �he City did not wan'c
'�o ge'c involved with the maini,enance or legal re-
sponsibilities. The Director of Puk�lic Works said
we coul.cl crea'ce an ille�al lot if we l:eep a sliver
� out for a s3.�;n, and felt these si�ns should not
be placed on a publi.c thorofare or on a separate
lo'c .
� It was fel� �;ha� industrial par�t si��ns were different.
Mr. Wal'cer Z�lard displayed wha�; Vallco Parlc has pro-
r posed. He sug�ested special rules should apply to
planned developments.
Mr. Ray White, 8L!1 The Dalles, Sunnyvale, representin,
i Shell Oil Company, said tha� a p��oposed sign allov�J-
ance of 1/ of lot area would not be enou�h for
service s�a�ions. They usually have three types of
signs: on� free standing owner identifica�cion sign,
two price si�ns 2 x 1�� sq. ft,, tt��o trading stamp
s3.gns 8 sc}. �'t, He said that She11 Oil Company is
very concerned about this, and taould lil>e Western
Oil Associa�cion 'co contact the Cii.y for consulta�ions.
i The Planning Director ti�uelcomed this approach. Mr.
White fur'cher questioned the moratorium of 2 years
(San Francisco has g , 10 and 12 years) and also thou;ht
that the tivord "plastic" should be added to Sec. 1 !.22.
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PC-R17 Minutes of the 9/12/66 Plannin� Commission Meeting
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Comm. FroTich wonderzd if the iabels on th� pumps should
be considered si�ns. H�.proce2ded with a verbal pre-
sentation of an extensive li�t of corrections and amend-
ments to the Second Draft. �'hese were discussed by the
Commission and will be included in the next draft.
Moved by Comm. Horgan, secencied by Comm. Frolieh, to
continue the First Hearing;.
AYES: Comm. Buthenuth, Frolich, Horgan, Hirshon
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Comm. Bryson
Motion carried, 4-0
IX ADJOURNMENT
� Moved b� Comm. Frolich, seconded by Comm. Horgan, to
ad�ourn the meeting at 11:35 p.m,:
� APPROVEIl:
/sj Jack Hirshon ;
Chairman �
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Adde Laurin,
Director of Planning
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