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PC 01-22-92 �� ,��-� �� � ���= CITY OF CUPERTINO, STATE OF CALIFORNIA ��/ 10300 Torre Avenue Cupertino, CA. 95014 (408} 252-4505 MINU'PES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMl�IISSION HELD ON JANUARY 22, 1992 I ROLL CALL: I . Commissioners Present: Chairman Mackenzie Vice Chairman Fazekas Commissioner Mann Commissioner Mahoney Commissioner Austin Staff Present: Robert Cowan, Director of ' Community Development Ciddy Wordell, City Planner Bert Viskovich, Director of ' Public Works Cheryl Kershner, Deputy City Attorney � � ORAL COMMIJNICATIONS: - None ( Planning Comrnission Study Session on General Plan Land Use ( Chr. Mackenzie noted he had talked to the City Attorney and the Diocese with regards to having a conflict of interest when discussing the Seminary property, as his children attend a Catholic school. Deputy City Attorney Kershner stated there is no conflict of interest and a written legal opinion will be submitted by the City Attorney's office to the City Council. Staff�Presentation: Planning Director Cowan presented the staff report. He noted the issues to be discussed will not be voted on at this time, but to talk in more detail of the general concept of ! issues and then present the ideas to the City Council. He stated � the Commission needs to look at the major changes in the general plan as it reiates to the inter-reiationship between land use, transportation.and housing. He stated once the basic themes are established then the open space issue will be looked at. He stated if changes are to be made to the General Plan then housing and traffic need to be addressed. Com. Austin stated she is unhappy with the process. She feels the conunission have not addressed the issue of more or less growth. Com. Mahoney stated what the issues are at this time is where the City can grow and where it cannot. He noted the core elements are land use, housing and transportation. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting of January 22, 1992 Page 2 Com. Fazekas stated there is the ratio between parks and housing. He stated there should be a certain square footage of park for housing and this will in turn determine the housing. He noted an issue is the height of buildings. Mr. Cowan explained how the 4900 trips where determined. � Mr. Cowan continued with the staff report. He noted the City agreed not to expand into the hillside areas beyond the urban service boundaries. He stated there is more potential growth in these areas if the City is prepared to go before LAFCO, but the Planning Commission a year ago decided not to do this. He pointed out all the vacant land on a site plan map. Chr. Mackenzie noted once the general Plan is adopted, then the � hillside ordinance will be reviewed. I Mr. Cowan showed a model of the land vacant in the City based on the existing General Plan. He explained the optional scenarios. Com. Mahoney stated they need to discuss reallocating what is � already in the ground. Some are potential areas for housing. Mr. Cowan stated the City does not have the power to change the land i use. Com. Mahoney stated if the major companies want to expand, older buildings could possibly be converted into residential. I Mr. Viskovich stated if the land use is changed it may not be additional square feet. M�. Cowan presented a chart, as outlined in the staff report, showing staff's version of the remaining growth . With regards to commercial, Mr. Cowan showed a map of the commercial area in the city and pointed out the areas which are built out and almost built out. The Commissioners discussed the issue of reallocation for retail growth and compared this with the Sedway Report as outlined in the staff report. Mr. Cowan pointed out areas of potential growth within the City. Vallco was o;�e area of potential growth. I Com. Mahoney stated it was his understandinq that they would want additional retail at the Heart of the City. Com. Mann stated with regards to the reallocation of 300,000 s.f. as outlined in the staff report, if it was economically feasible to tear down some older buildings and give a bonus of retail if developers would put housing on top. Mr. Cowan went on to discuss the trip generations and referred to the tier approaches as outlined in the staff report. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Reqular Meeting of January 22, 1992 Page 3 , Mr. Viskovich stated they will try each of the tier approaches ! before implementing. I Com. Austin read her letter addressed to the Planning Commission and City Council dated January 22, 1992. . Com. Mann suggested that the agenda be structured to discuss items and issues which have not been covered so far in the General Plan process. Com. Mahoney feels the commissioners have agreed on certain items. City Planner Wordell noted a checklist has been added to the staff � report for each commissioner to put there own choice on and submit back to staff and they will consolidate all of the choices. Chr. Mackenzie stated they can be qeneral when discussing the General Plan and adopt it. Once adopted the Commissioners can then go back and go over the ordinances more thoroughly. Com. Austin stated she is concerned about setting precedence by being too general. Chr. Mackenzie stated everything is interrelated and has an impact on each other. In response to Com. Mahoney's question regarding the additional growth for the major companies, Mr. Cowan pointed out on the site plan map the major companies and there expansion requirements. In response to Com. Austin's question, Mr. Viskovich stated that if the major companies introduce TDM prograrns and reduce trips, they can have more square feet. Mr. Viskovich stated the Commissioners should deal with the General Plan and deal with the tier approach at the appropriate time. He stated the reason for tier 1 and tier 2 was to give the Commission a tool to allow the major companies to expand. He stated the tool � is not to be used to design the other parts of the City. He stated the pool of trips should be used as a base and then decide what they want to do with them. He stated it will be the companies responsibility to prove that the TDM programs can be implemented and work. Com. Fazekas stated the Commission should look at these issues from a height and mass standpoint. He feels this is more important than traf f ic . I f the traf f ic gets out of hand , then they need to put constraints on the Companies. At this time Chr. Mackenzie presented his proposal for trip � allocations. A copy of which was included in the staff report. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting of January 22, 1992 Page 4 �, The Commissioners discussed the proposed policies as presented by Chr. Mackenzie. Regarding item (b), on the Office/Industrial, Corn. Mann stated � small offices are needed. Chr. Mackenzie stated he feels there are enough srnail offices and the big companies are important. Com. Fazekas stated the small offices are needed and are used. Regarding item (c) Retail., Chr. Mackenzie stated if Vallco can get 2 department stores or other major store elsewhere, then look at the General Plan when that tirne comes. Com. Fazekas stated he would be in support of retail on the edge of � the City to encourage sales frorn outside of the community. Com. Mann stated if retail is all focused in one area then people are forced to get in their cars and drive. She spoke in support of small retail in neighborhoods. Chr. Mackenzie stated he has no objection to small retail stores in neighborhoods. Com. Fazekas stated there is no retail in the City which is in bad shape or run down and there is no reason to discourage it. Chr. Mackenzie stated he feels that a hotel is important. Com. Mahoney presented his view. He stated that he would agree with staff as to the retail reallocation square footage which is 302,000 s.f. He stated local access retail should be kept in neighborhoods. He would propose 1.7 million for office/industrial. He proposed 300,000 s.f. for the hotel and the 2000 for housing. Each Commissioner agreed with Chr. Mackenzie's policies for retail, housing and hotel. The Comrnissioners concluded the following: " staff Don Orrin Betty Donna Darryl RETAIL 300K 0 300K 300K 200K 500K OFFICE 1405K 1823K 1.7K 1.2M 1865K 1.1M HOTEL 300° 500 300 500 0 500 HOUSING 2008 2000 2000 2500 900 2000 TRAFFIC VS GP 0 0 +510 0 -490 0 It was a consensus of the Commission not to create congestion beyond what is in the General Plan. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting of January 22, 1992 Page 5 With regards to retail, Com. Mahoney stated that the space allocated to retail is under used and more peopie are needed to obtain more retail dollars. The Commissioners agreed on the following statements to send to the City Council: 1. Current General Plan build out. Two LOS E intersections acceptable, remainder to LOS D. 2. Ernphasize office and housing at expense of retail space growth. � 3. City does not need as much retail as allocated in the General Plan, but needs more activity in existing spaces. 4. Encourage mixed: housing/retail housing/office housing/big office office/retail Com. Austin stated she would not be in support of a hotel in the heart of the city. Com. Mahoney stated he would, but does not think there is the critical mass to create a heart of the city. Com. Mann stated the hotel should be adjacent to retail as they will feed on each other. Com. Mahoney suggested the Town Center or Vallco. Gom. Mann concurred. Com. Fazekas stated the City has discourage a small hotel because the City is waiting for a larger one. He stated if and when they get the hotel, it could be in either Vallco or Town Center. Mr. Mark Kroll, Prometheus, stated the hotel proposed has restaurants, conference facilities, which cater to this particular market. He stated marketing shows that a grand ball room is not feasible. He stated the difference from a full service hotel and what is being proposed is the Grand Ball room. He noted he would call it a full service hotel. He stated the hotel industry is over built at this time and does not think there is a chance of getting two hotels within the City. In response to the Cornmissioners questions Mr. Kroll stated they have invested a large amount of money into the hotel, but they cannot get a construction loan. He stated the City needs a hotel from a revenue stand point and should take whatever they can. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting of January 22, 1992 Page 6 The Commissioners reached a consensus on the following statement: First - build a"full service" hotel (to include restaurant, room service, meeting room etc) Com. Fazekas stated the hotel should be user friendly. The Commissioners went on to discuss housing. City Planner Wordell explained the housing nexus study as outlined in the staff report. Com. Mahoney questioned if plus or minus 500 units would make a big difference in the traffic impact. � Mr. Viskovich stated it would make a difference, the traffic would spread to other intersections. Com. Mann stated people will take alternate routes, rather than sit in the traf f ic . City Planner Wordell stated the City needs to come up with an additional 1000 units over the existing General Plan. She noted if non-residential is decreased they won't need as much housing. She stated the Planning Commission must figure what standard they wish to use for the relationship between the jobs/housing. Com. Austin stated she feels the housing is a regional issue. It was a consensus to send the fvllowing statement to the City Council: The Planning Commission suggest building 2000 housing units (1000 more than in current General Plan). The housing number comes from the Planning Commission's perception of need, not State or ABAG requirements. The Commissioners discussed the Heart of the City. Mr. Cowan stated the Commissioners can talk about the need for the heart and what type can be discussed after meetings with the citizens after the General Plan has been adopted. The issue discussed was where should the heart. be, at the crossroads or not. Com. Mann stated she is not in support of a Heart of the City. Com. Mahoney stated it should not be at the crossroads, but create a new street. Com. Austin concurred. PLANNING COIKMISSION MINUTES Regular Meeting of January 22, 1992 Page 7 It was concluded that there was a 3-2 split on the Heart of the City. Those in favor stated it should not be at the crossroads. Com. Mahoney stated he would like to see it in the existing Town Center. Commissioners Austin and Fazekas agreed. Chr. Mackenzie requested that the Commissioners go through the questionnaire as submitted by staff and return it to staff as soon as possible. Chr. Mackenzie opened the hearing for public input. Mr. Phil Zeitman stated there are concerns regarding where all the � expansions and housing will go. He questioned if buildings are higher would this be acceptable to the City residents and expressed concern about the appearance. Mr. John Sobrato suggested that the Commissioners do not rely on the traffic model presented by staff. He stated peoples habits � change and demographics change. He stated much shopping is done by i catalogues, therefore less people on the roads. He feels that any housing developed should be open to all residents and not tied � directly to the companies. ADJOURNMENT: The Planning Commission adjourned at 9:40 P.M. to the next Regular Meeting of January 27, 1992 at 6:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ' M . Catherine M. Robillard, Recording Secretary Approved by the Planning Commission at the Regular Meeting of , 1992 /s/ Don Mackenzie Don Mackenzie, Chairman Attest: � Dorothv Cornelius Dorothy ornelius, City Clerk