PC 06-27-67 10300 Torre Avenu�, Cupertino, Califarnia 9501� Phone: 252-4545
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MINUTES OF ADJOURNID MEETING OF THE P?�AI+tI{tING COI�IISSION
aun� 27, i967 8:00 �
Held in the Council Cha�mb�r, City Hall, 10300 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, Ca�l.if.
I SALUTE TO THE FLAG
II ROLI, CAI�S,
Comm. pre�ent: Bryson, Frolich, Hir�hon, Horgan
Com�►. a.b s ent : Chairman Buthenuth
County Planning Commi�sioners preaent: Mr. Terdsi
Mr. P�brassau
Dr. Wechaler
County Staff present: Director of Pls�nning, Roy Cameron
Associ�.te Planner, Warren MeCord
Cupertino Staff present: Director of Pl�,nning, Adde Laurin �
Recording Secret4ry, Lois Inw4rds
Vice-Cha.irman Bryson presid�d. He stated that this would be a
Hearing betwe�n the Cupertino and County Planning Comm�i�sions.
The public was free �o listen, but not to participate at this
time.
The meeting was recessed until 8:30 P.M. to giv� the County
Planning Comm�.ssioners time to �xrive.
III HEARINGS SCHEDUI,ED:
81,025.61 A. Neighborhood Plans for the Old Monta Vista, and the Foothill
81,025.81 Blvd. areas in the City of Cupertino and the County of
Santa Clara�. Informal pres�ntation.
County Planning Director Roy Cameron reflected on the previous
�oint mceting of the County and the City Pl�ing Commissions,
when it was decided both Planning D�partments sshould further
�tuc�y the area, and the Comonissions then have another �oint
meet3ng .
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A joint planning program has been recommended to be c�.rried out by
the two Pla�nning Departments, with the following division of sta,ff
work: .
Old Monta Vista, bctween the Southcrn Pacific Railroad tr�cks s�nd
Stevens Creek would largely be under the County staff's task, sinc�
this area is �l.ready built up and probably won't bc annexcd to
Cupertino for �► long time.
The Cupertino staff woul.d plan the a,rea from Stev^ns Cre�k into the
foothills because much of this area is undeveloped and would be
anxiexed before development.
Ther� would be closc coop�ration between Cou.nty and City in regard
to both areas.
Mr. Csmeron th�n introduced Associate Planner, Mr. Warren MeCord,
Planner in charge of the study of this pro�run.
A series of maps was placed on the bulletin board. Mr. McCord first
referred to the County's Zoning Plan map. County and Cupertino
�urisdictions a�r� intermingled, except around the De Anza College
site. A second map of existing development was shown. A third ma�p
represented a suggestion for ftzture development of the �rea. This
plan tries to put some order in the development of the area. There
is gre�.t need for a traffic flow stuc�y of the entire �area. The
diamond interchange on Stev�ns Creek Blvd. will most likely prove
to b� inad�quate. Perhaps truck traffic c�,n be eliminated on .
McClellan. Nir. McCord s�res�ed the fact that th� third map was
mer�ly a suggestion, which is subjcct to discussion. He al�o
noted th�.t any ch�ngc in the �re�,between the freeway and Stevens
Creek will be gradual.
The Cupertino Planning Director �aic�. it will be neccssary to decide
procedure for Public Hearings on this �rea; perhaps both the County
and City Planning Commissiona could participate. Undeveloped �rea8
will probably be a�.nnexed to Cupertino before development in order to
solv� water supply �nd other problems. He �uggested the pre-zoning
procedure as one w�y of handlin� the mattere His plans on the
bulletin board reflected wha�t t�e City is trying to a.chieve through
proper planning. Director C�meron said the m�.tt�r of pre-zoning
is up to the City.
Co�. Horgan was in favor of the pre-zonin� appro�ch. Coarm. Bryson
felt that duxing z°ezoning procedures, �uggestions could be made from
Cupertino to the County. He �ugg�sted, �rhen talking �,bout specific
�res�s, that one �urisdiction initiate the proceedings and the other
offer su�ge�tions. He beli�v�d Cupertino should have some word in
matters conccrning prop�rti�s that will be a,nnexed by Cupertino
in the future.
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County Planning Co�ission�r Wechsler coa�ru.e�±fed th�.t pre-zoning may
be too artificial and rigid, and he f.elt thi.� procedure was not
needed at this time; things ch�n�e too �°ast. It was his opinion
that the County Planning Co�unission is interested in a compr�hensive
effort in s�ll areas. He would hope, before the st�ff� and Com�is-
sions star�t to solidify too much, that they would h�ve a chance
to hear from the people in the area. The Cupertino a.nd County
Co�issioners a1.1. agreed to this .
County Planning Co�ni��ioner Teresi said �. G�ner�l. Plan is precisely
that. Wher� the situation calls for it, the County and Cupertino
Cou�ni.ssions should have �oint mcetings. With regard to pre-zoning,
he said there should be some recognition, timewise, as to when the
property i.n question should b� annexed.
Vice-Chairman Bryson felt a thorough going-over of th� General Plan
would bc in order. Coman. Frolich was in favor of res�rving pre-
zoning for individual, sm�.l.l areas, rather th�n large parcels.
Comm. Hirshon asked �bout the l�gality pf pre-zoning. He felt this
should b� re�earched.
Comm. Horgan s.sk�d if the County Pl�,nner's plan on the bulletin
board refl�cts the County Planning Commission's feelings. Comm.
Teresi no'�ted that this is only a proposal. Comm. Wechslcr sai.d
this i� an axe�, Cupertino is more familiar with than they are at
this time. They would prefer to have some of the benefit of the
Cupertino Pl.anning Commission's thinking on the subject. Comm.
Teresi felt the area to the east will materially affect this area.
Cupertino now has a rather extensive industrial area which the
County Public Works Department is now working on.
The Cupertino Planning Director s�id he i� worried about the need
for more schools and park�, �nd about the traffic which will be
g�ndrated in th� area weast of Stev�ns Cre�k. An ultima�.t� population
of 11,000 in that sreA, �s pr�s�ntly zoned, would need at l�ast two �
mor� schools a�d the cap�.city of at lea,at two four-lane expresaway�.
He suggeated informs�]. me�tings with both r��identa and l�ndown�r�
to find out wha�t kind of community th�y would wa.nt, �.nd later
formal public hea�z�inga to evaluat� actual pl�,ns . Cupertino m�,y be
�ble to assign a man exclusiv�ly to the planning of the Foothill
Blvd. ar�a. Data collecting, actusl pla,nning, and publ�.c hearings
ar� likely to t�,kE a ye�r.
In answer to Comm. Horgan`s question, 1Kr. McCord sa�id the County
has suggested a change from Comm�rcial to duplex or apartment zoning
of certain areas in "Old" Monta Vista because th�rc arc not Enough
customers for s�n e�ct�nsion of the exi�ting comanerci�l. area around
Steveens Cre�k Blvd.
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Conun. Br�rsc�n asked what h�ppens to the railroad track at St�vena
Creek Blvd. Mr. McCord said the fre�way goe� under Stevens Cre�k
Blvd. �,n,nd over McClellan Road. With St�vens Cre�k Blvd. intersecting
the fre�way, the r�.ilroad, Peninsula Avenue, l�y Avenue, the Coll�g�
�ntr�nee, etc.,m�;n� tr�ffic problems will h�ve to be solved.
R�cess was called at 9:�+5 P.M. The meeting reconvened a�t 9 �55 P •M•
Comm. Hirshon ask�d about the possibility of office zoning in "Old"
Monta Pista. Mr. McCord said that would generate more traffic ths�►
duplEx zoning. Effort will be ma.de to have th� duplexes or apsrtments
back up to St�vens Creek Blvd. There a�re ple�ns for a cammunity
c�nt�r ares. Comm. Bryson aaid h� could not visualiz� a,partmenta in
thi� a�rea.
Cupertino Planning Directc�r said our Gener�l Plan isn't v�ry r�siiatic.
Light Indu�tria�l i� indicated for � lsrge arew west of the railroad.
Comm. Frolich explained the reeasons behind the G�ndral Plu1's pro-
posal for Light Industrial in that srea. He a�ked what mi.ght happ�n
if the area� stay: single-family hom�s. Mr. MeCord said that gen�r�lly,
the people in tha►t area live on mod�at incomea and ahould not be
displaced. This area will probably remain �tatua quo for th� life of
this plan. Comm. Frolich felt that �� th�se hc�mes gEt older, r�paira
become more expensive u�d ha,rder for retired people and p�opl� with
modest incomes to cope with. Dir�ctor Cameron felt th�,t within the
�cop� of pres�nt atudi��, th� us� of this ar�s for indu�tria�l. pur-
poe��s is not feaa,sible.
Cupartino Planning Dir�ctor said the planning program wc>uld not
institut� a moratorium on building�'.. In our City, we are v�ry atrict
a.bout requiring municip�l. improvementss. Thd County has :omewhat
differ�nt rules �nd in some ar�ag, differ�nt �tr�et plans. Pr�-
zoning would h�lp in matter� such as the$�. We �hould a].so try to
achieve a, ��n�ee of identity for the community a� w�ll a� for the
individual neighborhood�. This ms.y b� achi�v�d by small means:
a�fountain, a bench under a tr�� at s vista point, etc. W� sxe
trying to design a community center n��.r the int�rs�etion of Foothill
Blvd. a�nd St�ven� Creek Blvd., with public, qu�,ffii public a�nd com-
mercial usea, Ae�th�tic consider�tion� include not only individual
buildings but the grouping of buildinga and how they f'unction.
Probl�ma would b� compounded if presently zon�d density were
incr�ased. On the oth�r hsnd, to lower the d�nsity would save the
public mon�y, but it is v�ry difficult to r�zone in that direction. ,
His first approa,ch would be to keep, basica�7.1.y, pr��ent zoning. ,
D�tailed studie� m�y then �how some increasc in certain areas and
some decreas� in oth�rs.
Comm. Tere�i asked if we a.r� in n��d of �,nother traffic survey for
this area. Thd Cup�rtino Dir�ctor said w� first n�ed to know the
population we should plan fvr. Comm. Wechsler �aid h� will propoae
�,t their n�xt meeting to discuss thia traffic situation.
Vice-Ch�.irman Bryson suggested the Cupertino Pl�nning Dir�ctor
continue hi� studies to give us some notion af possible road wid��-
ings and possiblc locations of grade schools and high schools,
locations for parks, and to work with Mr. �+IcCord and set another da�te
now for anoth�r �oint meeting.
*.... in accordance with present zoning. '
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Comm. Wechsler sug�ested the next �genda include an amplificatio�
of the Cupertino Planning Director's thoughts and s� report on the
traffic survey now being made by the County's Departmcnt of Public
Works. Perhaps Mr. McCord could set up � meeting a�s soon as this
traffic report is complete. Com�►. Wechsler asked if the m��ting
could be at Cupertino City Fiall a�ain, �ince it is mor� convenient
for the property owners involved. He would also like a preliminary
public hearing. Perhaps we could have a few spokesm�n from a few
of the nre�,�, for e�spediency's sakc.
Vice-Chairman Bryson felt the public should bd invited to speak
their minds when w� get down to specifics. Comm. Horgan �aid we
learned that pre-zoning is not the answer; the General Plan probably
is. We should meet again, sooner than 3 or 4 months. We need the
City Planning Director`s analysis. Comm4. Wechsler felt there
should not be �, public hearing at the next meeting; lengtY�y public
hearing� are very time-consuming and not a�s much can be accompliahed.
Public hearings should come l�,ter on.
In regard to the missive from the County of the rezoning to R3 of
the lot at Palo Vista Road. and Js�ni�e Avenue, th� Cupertino Director
stat�d that the �uggested plan indicates single-fa�mily home� here
�nd that further planning may indicate a changed road pattern.
The Cupertino Plt�nni.ng Commission recoaunended denial of this
rezoning request. Comm. Wechsler said he would make Cupertino
Pl�nning Commiission's feelings known on this matter and the County
will take this under consideration.
MINUTE ORDER: Moved by Comm. Hirshon� s�conded by Comm. Horg�.n, to instruct
the Cupertino Planning Director to tra�nsfer to the County �he
recommendation of the City Planning Commi�sion.
Motion carried, 5-0
IV ADJOURI+�lENT
Moved by Comm. Horgan, second�d by Comm. Frolieh, to ad�ourn the
meeting at 10:45 P.M.
Motion carried, 5-0
Vice-Chairmeixi Bryson thanked the County Planning Commzieaioners and Staff for
coming and s�aring their thoughts with Cupertino Planning Comanission, and'
express�d hope for another �oint mceting in the near fLiture.
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