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MINFJTES �F THE� REGLiT�'1R MEET�'�G �OF TH��•P�INNING COMM3SSION' •
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IZ � ROLL� CALL:`� �'Min�tes � of the previoi�s meatin�, . �11/8E65 -; � ; . �
' Gomm:� present:'• Frolich, Hirshon,, : Traeu�er:, Johnson
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Staff present: Cir.;� Attcrney, Sam r�n3er•�on.•� ;.. ,� .
Di�ector of Public Works, Frank Finn�y
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; , . . _ .. _. . � . Pian���r; �.��m Nuku:� -. . �
� - � � �� •'` ' • Retordirig- Secr�tary;. Sy].v� � hinrichs . . .
Corrections to the Minu�es o£ the� November 8th meet:.:�g: :.
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�' On• page`���, second�'paragraph, �C��im�. Froli:.h said� he had a.^l�F� th�t
the staff conside� relocatin� antennas in 'the front of .::�z�• bui�� �ng,
not that it be incluxFd a.s a section to the Ordinance; also, on
••• '�� ` 16�; Comm.' �'rol:.ch i�riq,�ired� whether : the matter� qf rezoning to
' ~• C�2`�b��r �the'� County�•as indicated' i�n �the Minu�e Ord`er, had :been dis-
cussed at the City Council me�ting and CY.airman 3ch�nson asked if a
copy of this Minute Order had also besn sen� to Foo�hill CoZlege.
- �The� Plarinii►g�•Director �said� they had. � . . .. .. •
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�" � Cha�raian J�hnson asked � that the phrase .?'with a:..Js.e Permit" be
added to �rhe 'second pa'ragraph• f�om the �nd,. on page• �.0, and to
delete the word "hospital," also delete the word "hospital" on
� page Y1�;�a�hird� �paragra-ph �C�mm. Hirs�ion agree�). " A1SO, An page 12,
,. �'�`�,'secorid� paragraph should be corre�ted to �read :";closs the Firs,t
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°�' �Moved� li}ti Comm:� Traeumer;-s:econded-���- ^o�i, Hi��bon.� .ta approva the
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III AN:�TvUP1i:�i��N?:S OF PU��:2�N�,i�L:l�1''S, Ei�,
20-Z-65 CPM DEVELOP�RS: R�:��n�ng of 15'� a�.FS, from R••1 to R1C, at McClell.an
Road and Vallecito Road (hors� Ranch).
The Planning Director announced ti:at tY;� p:�sentati�n of this applica-
tion, as listed in Section VTJI, undez• Pl:w Basinass, will be
presented as a formal application at the next Planning Cammi,ssion
me.ting, after it has.been advel•txsed for a Public Hear?ng. The
P:anning Director explaine3 that the applicant has delivered complete
layouts of the development, which are available for inspecti�n at
• th� Planning De�arCment office� The City Attorn�ey had advised that
there may be legal complications if the apnl�c�.tion were presented
before the date of the Public Hearing.
Chai'rman Johnson poir�ted out that the second Planning Commission
meeting in December would fall on �,ecewuer �7th, the day after the
C�ristmas holiday, and asked- if this might cause difficulties.�
Comm. iraeumer poin�`ed out that: s�irice: bhe CPM Develdpers;' a��'::�Fr_:;n
w�.s n��t presented tonight, the dec:.sio� �aould be delayed Ln�.ii �`�05
if_ the Dec�mb�r 27th meet�ng were car.celle:�, unless the app'_icati�n
could be completed in one :i.:aring. °` � ,
The City �Attorney said that to hear anythi.r.g with�ut bein� published
wosld b� predetermir_�ng of evidern,e with no Pu�lic Hearing, a�d as
he u�uerstan3s ths. �•�tuation,- ie would create ��sh�.otic situation.
He felt that perriA.ps a Mj.nute Order_ could be at,ac::ed, com':,:::z:'r�; ths
�irst and Second Hearings, if the Planning Ca�n:niss�ion saou'.s s:: �1y
the nlans at the Planning Department Gffice be€��re the meEC::�� a.-�� - ..
�� if it were not for technical. facts - reg�rding : .�ublic Hearings, ;;=ze
� .. Coinmission could hold both �Iearings ac one time ;.
,.�It was recommended that the Hearings be, consolic�ated one Hearing,,
and the applicant present. all his xec4rds and pl-�ns �at ,the First
' : Aearing. � . _
Comm, Frolich asked _if there was an• Ord�.na�ice .^?hich ,s a17,
applications must have two Hearings. The City �ttocnpy said there
• was none. . Commo Frolich then su�gested,.the P1ann�.ng,
consider closing. tha- Hearings at the Fi Hear;ing,. .. ..
� Th� City Attorney would:reGommend the,Planning pre-
pared to have on�.y Qne Hearing.at che next meeting:,�and.advised the
applicant to have all his records com��ete, with,"no�:tag ends loose."
Comm. Frolich, however, felt the Pianning Commi3sion should not put
� � themselves in a position �.where �.they. would b� .ob,T�.g,a�ed_ to -make a
decision at that time. Chairman�Johnaon�Gsked if
wished to make a motion that they had iatended to hear the presenCa-
tion of this applicatiqn at;t:onight;' meeting, but had postponed it
because of the necessity to advertise a Public Aearing. Comm.
Frolich said he felt it would suffica to make a record of this in-
tention in the Minutes, but not to formalize a motion on it. Comn.
Hirshon agreed, and Chairman Johnson confirmed that a fornal motion
would not be advisable. •..
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Regress:.ng �to th� matte� of .-io�L�a� �ch�•3u�e for �Yla�zing Commis-
. , si�n me�r.ir.gs it was agreF3 n.� ��c�:.:.zg be held �cin' Dec; 2�th
.� " unless an emergency situati�n arises,�and `Comm. �rol•ich.add2d
' that the staff be instructed .to �MO'tify' fui:ure agpiican�s� that
. there wou�c3. be no mae�ing .on tfii.s �tT=.te; � �' •
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_,Draft af a le ,te� to be directed��tt� former Commissioner and Cha:!r-
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man Jack Gates;, �ppreciation of his services`to the Commission
was reviewed by the Commission. Comm. Traeumer recommended that
, a phrase be added �o.the last �aragrs�h, indicating �he Commission
"regrets �very.:muefi yaur decision to' resign�"
Chairman.,�ohnsonrreminded the'�Ccinra�ssioners about the specl.al
caZled meeting of the City Council and Planning Comraission, t�
rev�ew the appeal�:�o.f Page l?roperties for their College °ark
Devtlopment. Chairman John3on advise3 he ha3 another meeting,
but would attend after thato
� V VERBAL COMMtTNICATIOD?S
A. The Pianning Director announc�d t!:at thc opening �bf Stevens
Freew�y, Rc�:te 85, has bee.n delayed until December 8th,
B. The Planzing Director read a communica�ion receiv�d by the
. Planning De�artment from Mr; W. G�. St. Croix, �e:�u�s�.�-�g
permission to open a retail sales 'firec�ood lot on a v^::ant
parcel of land zoned C-1, locat.ed 500 feet north of �`t�•�an�
. ' Creek Blvd., east side of Highway 85. Mc. St. Croix ?.n�
� . dicated he d�es not intend to buil� a structure`nor alter th�
. . property in any way, and would:occupy t�is parcel for four
months only. . .
The:Plann�ng Director po3nted out that there was�no:p in
the Ordinances which would apply directly �o-this.type of use but
if it is compared to a lumber yard i�_ urou�d require an M-'1 zor��.ng.
However, if the firewood_was neatly burzaied up for sales, as is
sometimes.done in supermarkets,.it cou1� be located in a C-1 zone,
: withput a Use Permit, An in••betweeri arrangement could be compared
to a service station, raquiring a Use:i'e�mit. ' '�'
The'City Attorney commented that if it wiil not invoZve. a structure,
.-it should be dealt witih under a Use Permit��racedure wfith Archi-
.. � tecture and Site Contro•1 �of. the site. - If the � laririing Commission
� wis��ies�,to prohibit .the use:and• deny the requesty they can taks the
�positio� that the. use re4uestad.w�uld no;: apply in a C zone an3
the �r.ope�ty is no.t sufficiently inprovec�•for commercial use. Com-��.
� Traeumez. asked� City At.torney how the �l�anning- Commissior. cot�id
enter a,,uiQ,tion,.to deny this request, bec�use �ha lo'ading and snl�ad-
ing of firewood is not a type of. occupn.t,ion. that .is c�uducive to
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Comm. Froli�h felt it di.d na`: *�ose m:i..^.h. r�;: a,rcblem, esrec1ally
since the re:�ue�t- wa:; for a short, t,�r_•�: �s;, an3 he had no objection.
Coirs►. �Hirshon said he. di3, not feel th� s. use was an ad�antage in this
particulaz.location.�. The City Attorn�y pointed.out that the main
objection wou'.d be the tr�.ffi� p�oblem tb.i� would create on a main
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-° � The��Plannittg Director suggested �t�hat the Pl�azning �ommissian enter '�
a Minute Order indic�tfng that th�.s use would be more ap.propriata
-�... ir�� .a Tigh�� �industr�ial -xone;.. arid tihat` tt ��taou3.d create��ar t�a£.f ic
prub�em 'at� t�►3.s � location: � � _ .; ._ . -: ' � . , _
MIP3"JTE . ORDER.: .Maved .By �Co�m.��Tre�u�er,�- seconded� �y_ Comui. �H�rshon,
that .this'-reque'st� be� denied - for� t�Ze `rea's�n �.���would
' not ba the proper use for C��l zaning, an3 further-
more, it would create a traffic problem.
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A:�ES: Co�. Frolich, Hirshon, Traeumer, .Iohnson
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19-Z-6S C. DR. Y�EE T. LACEY: Rezoning of 2 acres, from R-3-.H to C-1-H,
.>.:at:. Saratoga�Sunn�rva.le. Road, 170' =�ior•"th o-f Boll;:�ge�"=g��d��'
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The� .Ylanriing� Director' read a��letter'•�from- Dr����Lacey.,� Yn�:ica:i�g he
was withdrawing his Use Permit applicati.an,=:�bur�taished� to contiinue
with the rezoning application. • -
Comm. Traeumer.. pointed o.ut: , that by droppi�g� `t'�e� t3se�'�'ermit �; ali- •
cation, the rezoning applicatfion �aould alloc� the appli¢ant to
- apply for �a business� lit�ehse� for•'a'•Vete�inarian C1"inic, , i�f t�e
rezoning were���to •�e-�gr�nted. • • . . . . �;:'...
Chairman Jatinson�°asked' w�;�.Ordinance-� 00�"(k�j ��egul�aCing= Veterinarian
Clinics, stc.�-� �was� not � o�i' the agenda''tonig�ht�a= The: �PYanning
Director : expla'�ne�-�that= the City Counr_iT ha�l �"referr�d� the� Ordinance
- ba.ck' to` the '�Planriiing �Ccrm�isszon`, .to� process `as� a reg�tla��:ordinance,
rather.`than an�U•rgenc�'Orct�nanee.' This wo.uld have`�ta��be advertised
.� ' for� �a' Public�•H�r�iig,'�.�nd wou�d-be placed' oi�s-��t'I�e>"ag'�nda �for the
;D�cember l`3t'h='�eeCing:.� ,� .•_ . . , �.. '` . •
Comm:�Traeumer recommended that a motion be made that:this Ordinance
• be returned•�to��th� 'Ci�y �ouncil; �to"be �nacted' i�§ an •Urgency �
� Ord.inance..�. Chairma�i �JoHnson po�.�ntect�' out* t�a�"`th�� Ci�y Council has
• decid�ed �thaG sinoe �the" ��Tse` Pe�r�rit �has--�een wi��id�racany �the� �ur�"gency
.. facxo�� has � b�en re�aoved'.'aiid`�he �Pl�anni"r:g='�oinmissi�n� •must proceed
, • !: wi�•h�� i:t as •a� �eg��'1��:` (1'ritit�ance., � .Camni: ;'��dl:ich�� fel['. the Q�dinanca
° .•�sha�Id: be--made•,b��ader.��si:�%�ore.:�i;n,clusive� �ta�'sp`aci�f3� -clearl� the
uses. .for . light indus�rial• zone�.. ..,'.; , '�•-` :;,'� ` . , • �'. � .
Moved. b3�. C.omm:.� Fxol�.��i,,� �seconded, by Cou�sn. T�ae���r, ,'.that :flrd
. ...oQa(b), b� ad��; �fo� �ie.�.rixig# : h . e : .li�ax.� s� t� npxt
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Comm. Traeumer asked if thp Planni:�g Com��.ss3:on:uro3i}.d'consi .
� granting approval. to tr�e zc►niz,� G_��i:.cation tonight, subject to
. certain.conditions by the.Co��ssi�on. Thb City Attorney poin�ed
` t� ���out�that the Clty..uzrote the Qrdinances with certi�in sCandard '
•�`'�'�' ' condiCians, and he w�uld g:efer deny�rig: the zonir�g application
rather than adding conditions to th� approval. He felt this would
n 4��'
. be an abuse of the .Zoning d �- • .
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.°' '� �� r �'• �I''!ie �laririi,ng �Com�i.ssiozn must determine if Chis .is a proper G1
� -'� "��:�` = zoriing�;�.cans�dering� ad�acent zoni.z�g.,an� acc�ss.�probletn§.
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'_ ' D. The . �lanning„D�.rector told the Planning� Co�ariiissi�on' that the
� �` � ��' Plarining. B�par.tment ; has; ; rece�!ve�l many �inquiries _for location
�`� ' : of u�es .xequiring Light, Industrial:'�;M-.1-H) zoni�ig,•� but the City
•�'�°`�~� � �'has very. few areas so � zoned e He sugo�ested •rt�e � City take t�e
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•. ' init�ative,to_..rezone some �r.eas, p�rhaps.•�by inviting certa�n
� �landowners to� discuss rezo�ing� of� their pr�ap�r��ies to M-1-H.
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� • �e said .that many l.ando.w*�er$. haye rezoned their property to
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' � multiple .residential.. �R-3-H��,::,anticipating that� tt�is w�uld
••� � '`''` � fetcti the highest,.pr�ice; and : Wexe holding their prope� Ly in
� �'' � ��ab.eyance: .� Rezoning to M-1-H might- result 3:n� earlier develop-
' 'ment .
•-� �• �� '�`'' Comm:`� Airshon agreed this was an excellent suggestion a.nd recommend�c:
. that citizens bs urged ,to consider.. these par.t�:cuYa'r �Yeas for re-
-- `'`''`'zo'ning.' 'The C�.*_y Attorney agreed that gor��i. points have been raised
in this suggestion, and suggested the Plaizning Direct:,r c�nta^t
the landowners 3,n these par.�icular areas and arrange a meatin� to
consider M-1 zoning. Chairman Johnson askzd the Planni.r.g Direc�o�
to submit a memo Co the Commi�sion for the next meeting�
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•� �` �''$.� The planning Director. _announc�ed� that the. pre'sent Residential
Zoning Ordinance expires on December 21, 1965, and at the
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.. . sug�estion of the Ci,ty Attorz�e�r•� �,��;..nas promised to'write a
J ��• draft for. a,, new Urgency Ordin be submitted-��at the
' ..' �City Counc�.l �neetimg on, Decembe� 6t}a;�:. . Es'sentiall�, it wo�.id be
��.. _ .�identi�al to Ordinances 002(k) �and� 220i but� some� sections would
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� •' � ° be amended and clarified.
''` } ��'"The City�A�torney.sta�ed that.thg�e�are two methods tor urgency
`�' '��""' `iSrdinances: 1} Aa ordinance that c�n .be revoked� after one year
and which might be in con£lict with a permanent ordinance; it can
only . be: renewe�i -twice. ,2). A r¢gular : urg�ency o�rdiriarice -- it is
' '•� 'necessary to� re-enact them to: �k�ep,�.�hem� ali�re.:by� the method of
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, _ ' � seinf `a 'substant.�al�.;s.ecx�ion; a£ �rh�..�d�a£t to.•�.ha "pro�pi�,aed �setluai�e�►,�
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19-Z �,EaS „" A. DR. LEE. T, .L;ACEY: Rezoning of �2 ac.'re� frum ,R-3 .H to C-1-H, at
�. ,'' ,.. Sar�,toga�Surinyvale • RoacY, � Z70' ,north of Bollingex �Road. First
; � Hear . . ,
Mr. James 3ackson, represeneative of th��a�nlicant, explained that
Dr. Lacey has no further interest in .this,prop�rty,: and�the land
� is now under new ownership,��in ttie name ten separate individuals.
Concern.ing the�present applicat'ion for rezoning, he had nothing
further to present, but feels this is a good zoning for the property.
.Comm. Traeume�'ask�d��hat�would prev,ent Dr. Lacey fram applying for
a business license�to operate a Veterinarian.Clinic if the rezoning
were granted:; • Mr.�'Jack�sn�n replied that once Dr. .Lacey has forfeited
, his deposit receipt he'iio longer,has. any interest in.the property�
�Mr.. Jacksan said,he hoped��this'application,would..not be delayed,
' and although there was.`no.pressing emergency on the ap,�Zication, he
would not like to see it �ielayed..because of ¢rdinance 002{b-1).
Chair.man Johnson asiced Mr. Jacks�on if he.had any objection to u�aiting
i.-�:ci1 December 13th, wheri' the O�dinance� will, be discussed by tY.e
Gommission.` There was no objection from Mre �ackson.
Chairm�n Johnson asked for comments from the aud.ience.• ThEre were none,
� ,,Moved by Comm. Trae�..zner, seconded� by.,Comm. Hirshor., Co close the
First Hearing., ._
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15-TM-65 B. PALO ALTO DEVELOPMENT CORPORAiION (Franklin-Bahl Deve�op�rs):
Tentative Map tor 34,5 acre developmen�,.eas.t.of Facithill Blvd.,
near �Starling Drive. First Hearing ., ..,;..,; : _ � _.. _
Mro, David Franklin', of� 2333 Pruneridga, -Santa Clara, ��explained that
,when hQ and his assoc`iafes studied the r�cently approved Tentative
Map for •thi:•s� area they :tho, ught the are.a �was so. attractive that a
subdiv�ision of£ering�la'rger lots might be an asset to.the area.
Therefore, the present developer has inc�r�ased some.of;the�lot sizes
to .a min�.mum� of 8400 � sq: ft�,�; and decreased the _•numtaer of dwel ling
; units �frQU� 116 to 101: .: �' , : _ ; . . . . .
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�:The Plann��ng `Director''.pointed out that .the.major difference� •is in
the local interior s�treet pattern.� The �previously .planned� divided
streets are not included in this plan; th�y caould have been more
attractive, although maintenance ��tou3.c�..be, mgr.e .costly to: :the' City.
' ., The, previous pia�n had streets under the.,.power, tr�,nsmission� 2ines,
� but,:the��pres•ent map sf�ows�`�the transmission li�es nver:�hhe rear �73YC�,4�
�,�hich Mr. Franklin thought r.o be mors �esthetic,
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The Pla.nning D_ractor sta�ed that tha Coun�y Planning Office though�it
a good idea to preserve the a;:a�. i�n3�r tr�e tra�smissaon line as a
'common green, and that the..School Board has requested,that�a foot
•.� path ' reserved through._the La Cresta subdivis,�nn_,be continued.
Comm. Traeumer said he thot�ght t�ie. �revious plan a connection
to Alpine. (Answer: throush Eaton pzoperty, but nat through
- La Cres ta. )� Mr. Franklin �m�lied that , puttia►g a con;nection to
' Alpine would constitut� quite an�elevatio.n change 20 ft, and
that it would be difficult to.i,nc�ude a�foptpath where the School
Board has requested one withaut constructing stairs. The City
' Attorney as'tced. if:.this .subdivision would include sidewaiks, ,
, ' (Answer: •Yes . ) . . . . ,
� �- Gh`i•xman Ja.�.nson read a: communication submi�ted• to him by th� '
School $oard,` Which urged.that before the Tentative:Map is ftitA�liz�d
the matter of a walkway fr.om Alpine Drive to th� •new• proposen sr_rea_�:.
in the subdivision be resolved. The present plan would continue to
'isolate the La Cresta area from Stevens Creek School..
�� Comm. Frolich inquired •if. ther� is an existing easement ir, the
La Cresta area. (Answer: Yes.) The D9..rector of Pub13.c W�rks
pointed out that .this 4�alltway must be inc.luded in the pr�� �at plan;
th� omission of it in the previous p�.an has just come to light.
Mr. J. A. Iglehart, �ssistant Superintendent of Business for the
� Cupertino School District restate3 tY�e �ositz.on of the Schooi :3oard.
Mr. Franklin a��Ced if the School Board wo�..ld pay for a footpath.
'Mr. Iglehart repliec� that .this is not a legal sehool disicrict
expenditure. Mr. Burnham,.with Franklin-Bah1 Develo�crs, im���`ed
that it was a natural conclusion to utiliza an easemen� �•a�he� tha���
ruiaing:an entire lot. The.Director o€ Public Works sa�d it wo��?d
be'tietter to;:tiring the paLh through. Mr. Franklin�suggested th�
Cfty reques�•the develop�r of th� adjacent area to,improve the
street under the natura2 easement; or if the City through its power
of condemnation would condemn this as a walkway, the situation
would be �olved. � .
; �� Comm..Frolich asked if the City could make an arrangement whers the
applicant would•put in a walkway �hraugh his port.ion of the de�elop-
ment to Alpine Drive in return for some reduction:of his bond.
Th� Director of Public Works commented that the usual practice for
condemnation would be 'for the ap�l��ant to pay the costs. The City
Attorney agreed, and said since the need for condemnation would be
created by the subdivisi�n, eminent 3omain would.not..cover t:his
situation. . . . �
Comm. Traeumer asked what the attitude of the applicant would be to
the idea of shift.ing..the easement by.moving lots 86 or 87 down and�.
putting a fence•in the:front and back. The Director of Pub13.c �
Works stated that the ground, as.it exists now, is fairly level;
however, then the lots would have to be cut down so that tha bank
would make the walkway quite steep, and would necessitate putting
in a set of stairs. The City Attorney suggested that the Engineer-
ing Department look into the access problem of Rivercre�t tract, wn��h
posed a similar problem and•also callad for constructioa of stairs.
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�-- , Mr. Wa1teL Ward, General Manag�� of Vallco l�x•k,� ou;:?;ned Ylans for
' ' th� ;.^��J�•sq.. f'.; b �k•:�ich will seL�-r� a.s �s tQm?�orary admf�istra-
' ti�n building fcr 5 or 6 yea��, a`ter u;:�ir,h it will be moved to
� another loCati�:i. Half of :.i: 41;:_1 h�u�e Vallco o�fice; the �•emainder
will be leased to tenants as office spaca for engineers & architecta.
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. �'.The Planning Director pointed out th2t the Use Permit�should have a.
�. � condition attached th�.r.. when tha building is to be.r�moded the Use
Permit should expire; and qt�esti.oned �if a.t3me limit should be set or.
the Use Permit. Mr. Ward s�ated th�y would prefer not to have a tim.•
.. ' limit, but.they have no objection .to expiring the.Use Permit when
the building is removed.
,..,, Comm. Frolich recommended that no time limit be set on the Use Per�::ra
�- Chairman .Iohnson asked far comments f�om the audience. There wQre n�r.=.:
Moved by Comm. Hirshon, seconded by Comm. Frolich to close The Hearir-
AYES: � Comm: �Frolich, Hirshon, .�ohnson , � '
. : NAYS: Comm. Traeumer � . -
� � Motion carried, 3-2 '
,'� 24oved by Comm. Hirshon, seconded by Comm. Frolich, that applica�ioL
, 18-U-65 be approved, subject to the condition that when ��:: building
• is removed the Use Permit would expire.
AYES: Comm. Frol9.ch H�rshon, Johnson
NAYS: Comm. Traeumer ;;. �
Motian carr�ed,'3-3,
Comm. Traeumer wished ii noted that the reason he voted Nay or. the
motion was because he wanted to see the eatire area z.3jacent eo
this property, and how it was planned.
8I,004 �D. CITY COUNCIL:.. Ordinance No. 321, providing Regulat.'_o:�s for
. � Home Occup�.tions. Second Hearing.` �
Chairman Johnson referred to Section 4, Excluded Occupations, and
asked,why;Animal Hospitals were excluded, but not Arii.mal Clinics
: � nox Veteririarian Offices, and what w�s the difference in these
classifications. The City Attorney explained �tHxt Veterinarian
, Offices per€orm only minor treatment of animals and keep no
' overnight patients. The distinction bet���en Clinic arid Hospi*_al
' � raises a question which the Plannin;; Comniission must d�t;ermin�.
Can this be compared with "human" doctors,�c3.inics and hospitalR?
In the County NS-1200 Ordinance, hospitals ara public institutions
and can.be placed in any zone without a Use Permit; howeyer, animal
hospitals are ncst public buildings�as compared to "human" hospitals,
and perhaps should be specified far an M=1 zoning. Animal Clinics
as opposed to Animal Hsopitals should be clarified in the Ordinance.
' Chairman� Johnson asked for' � comn�ents frc�m the aud ience . Dr . Brown,
• ���''� �'of GupertY�to Animal �Hospifal, stated that the Veterinary Assoc. has
•� desigriated�'a�nd�� up a�different rate sfructure for Clinics and
Hospitals.. Any facility that conta£ns a cage or cages to restrain
animals is either a Clinic or Hospital, according to the
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� ;.,, : • • ."C�l,iriie �= �A �facility'for diagnosis and trea�mEnt` of out-patients."
"Hospital, - Pa.tie�,�s. axe teta-�nec3 �ov�er�iigh� for observation or care."
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a:� �: �' �� `Cha3,rman"��ohnson .�suggest�ec�:;�.ttz�t �S�ec�.• 5, Stand�ar�s, : iie clarified or
.. . . • � '' � exp�tided'; Comm. Frolich agreed. . .. . '.`'•. . . � .,
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.., ..,: ,Comm: Hirshon�`fel��that S�c`:�'3, General Requirements, �hould serve
�� � as guidelines .to .assist .�.n�, decisionsi an:.oecupat.ions � to be, excluded,
. • �-�:° = . � •rather'than listing each occupation sepax�tely. ,, �
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�' �'�'r' "��` T �'� � Comm. Traeumer �said tY►at . includ�n� a : paragraph ,per�ai�t�.ng to home
occupation uses iri���the' Res`idential; Zoning Ordinance would elimina�
the necessity of. a spec3al Home Occupa�ion Ordinance. •
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Chairman Johnson recommendecl. thmt, the_: st'aff' review '�nd revise this
� • �• prnposed,0icdinance. !'beef� up!'-'the Standards �section,, giv:'�i; `
�. . d�fiiiitive guidelines,, .without sp.ecify�ng occupat'ioris to be excluded:
He also suggested the staff obtain copies of ?Io�e Occt��ation
Ordinances from some othe� citfes,° for �`rev�ew' b�y the .Plan:�ing
Commission. Comm. Frolich .agreed, a'iid �comwente3 furth�r. that
consideration be giveri`�to adding a paragraph on Home Occupations,
: with definitions an., restxictions, to the.Rasideritial•�Zoning
_ . . Ordinance, �He also� ',sugges.ted ; eli.minat3,ng .the uords ""acc��sory
• � buildings" from Sect'ion 5, a. , � . . �
The City Attorney pointed qut..that County:4�dznanc��.�NS-1200 cnvers
. Home�Oceupat3.�ns'Permitted in Sertion.29'o9.. �He commented th�.t the
Planning Commission'should follow the standard format in excluding
. certain Home.Occupations,,:and.,not treat i�."as a country store,
�• w;�ere you cari choo�e �which occugations. are:.to be included and
�those� t�iat would be' excl,uded;" home occupat:tons �are an exception
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�. ,Comm.. Hirslion .suggested� �that S�ction 5b �:be eliminated. and allow
.�. :-. no stqrage `of any kind;: �also . in, Sectior�. Se, .the .second sentence
�_'�"visits by customers sHall_be scheduled_so anly one'car`belonging
. . ;ro:cugtom2�s:.:...'.` be� eli�iirtated,� „ .. ., , -:1 • ;.•
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,_ . �•Moved by Comm; Hirshon, "seconded by,.�Eouun.,�rol.ich to�c�ose the
. Public, Hearing9:" " . . . ,�: • �
�. . . .. . . � . ; '�iot,ion carried,s.i.4-0 : ; ' � .
..: Moved by Comm. ,Hirsho�, ..s b.y.. �omtn. Fro�lic�t, 't�at � Ordinance 321
,.<< :�� •ts2� corif�3.nued at: the'�ne�t re�ular .m.�e:t:ing. for�a :Secorid�. Iiearing, and
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NAYS: None �
Motion carried, 4-a
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81,00�.� r• •'E. :�• CI.T.Y '1'LANN"�Rt Orc�in :nce • 22C fg j, regulatin� Aeights of Bu� ldings
, ,, , . -• �and Constructions Secvxia r :ari:�g. :
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;.;;: � C�ta#rman�Joh�so��:aslced tfie;�Flanning Director to higrlight'any
_ . .. .- :.ct�ang�es �.de: in �he+dra�� :subs�itte3 for tonight's meetirig, from
the second draft. •
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.:.� The Planning Director pointed out that . defiz:itions � of serials hAs
•: � e�� added .to this �dzaft as Sec. 65.2. Height of; accessory build•-
: . i:' •• ings :�nd of one-stor:y main buildings must be decided; either 15' or
16', not necessarily•the same,for both c2tegories. Previous study
sessions have not been conclusive. Tcao story buildings are pre-
�.�sentily restrictec� to 25�'; however, 30' was proposed by�Wilsey, Ham
a�ad Blair; �and .adapted. at p_evious study sessions. He added that
the Building.lnspector feels that.l6' for a one-story main building
and:30' for a two-story main building would be appropriate; ��'
would allow a pitched roof and could v�ry the architecture of the
building. .
, � -• � Tli� Cit}t Att'orney maintained that a liberal approach to hej.ght
would be more effective than tao severe an approach, and ir. his
opinion, a:pitched �ronf would be more attractive than a flat-top
roof. .�.. ,. . _
Comm. Frolich stated that he is not as concerned about height of
main buildings �s about accessory building heights; a high ga_age
� or shed in the aackyard could be detrimen'�al to the neighbors.
�� Comun.. Traeumer 'felt.that allowance to permit a garage und.r a
two-story building�.wauld.improve the design in many instances,
and a three-story building would be compatible in an area c�here
the land is sloped. •�Comm. �'�o11ch disagreed, and maintained
�that a garage should be included as a story, also. He sug-
gested that�£lat. roof buildings�:be limited to 20' in height.
Chairn�an Johnson�and Comui. Traeumer agrecd that a 25' height
limitation would be adequate far two-story buildings, with a
possible Variance for any height above tr.is. To justify the
reasori for this:Variance, some•-control over the design must
�'.be.established. Comm. FroZich and Comm. Hirshon concurred,
and suggested the Ordinance should specify 15' height for accessory
buildings, 16' height for one-story buildings, and 25' height for
, two-story a�d duplex buildings. .
The Planning Director pointed out that in Sectiari 65.5,� another .
sentence has been added -"The number of stories of a building
•.shall be corisidered equaT to the�highest number of�-stories.:in any
. vertical section� of the .building." ` in the same section, iC was
recommended that the first sentence should,.read "...used for
residential purposes, ara e, or as a working space......."
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Conti,nuing. tq Sectior.� 68, Televisior "a.nd Ra3io �Aer�.�ls, Chairman '.
. Johnsen asked why the 70' height wds i:n�luded'ag�ain��in the Ordinance,
since it has been established that none of the amateur .radio
ope�ators: in•tYze.area.has�an a�rial mo�e than�50' in height. The
'� Assis.�:ant .Rlan:�e� - �out-���tiat ' it was included because it might
' ' �be �needed in �the fuCure. ' .� � '
• The Director .of ; Public Works: � e�plained tliat � tHe aerials are �anu-
"�' factured..in certa3n..d�finite Ieng�h's of'37',.54', 71` and up to
"' 130' ..He .had' obt�;tned� costs�, as requested � by. the Chairman during
��� �`. the ,.last meeting, reported- thesri as folloiFrs: � ;�
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�� 1) Permanent.�ug..tqpe. = Thi�•c�nnot_ be �retra.cted or easil,y taken
'�r � ' �d'own:� �cost�.hetwe�n $77:00"and up to $20Q.00 for heigh�s
- '��,� includin�.30 40', 'SO'•, �60', �70" and above. They are .
� =�''� ' � manufactured..�t�;;2Q1. �sections •ansk boT��d "to�ether, height
. � � inc - das rhe. an�enna�.. : . . . . - ' "• � � �;` • y
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2) Crank-up type - which would alsa need to be,guyed:• :�
37' --.= ; $90.00,• 54' -__:$1�6�.Q4,� ;7T':.:;.-�$196.00,..a8' -- $26Q.00.
� " 3)�'Free-standing (sel.�?supporting)..craxik-up� type: ; . .
��� `�� 37` -- $330.00 motor-driven -- $820.00
54' -- $570.00 '► " -- . $1135.00 .
_ 71'..-- $.900.00 •�� , . �� -- $I59b.00 , .
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�.�> Not included . in heio;ht measurement� are �founda�ions, er�ection gear,
necessary guy wires, antenna, or necessary appurtenances. Fifty
per : cen� .of these �-�erials wou2d 'fit wi�thin ttie 12" square.- pro-
- posed �or� that section above the 30'° limit � ,
� In answe� ��to� a question whether. it; would ,be feasible �to locaCe
aerials in.the side-yards, the D�rector:of ,PubZic Works replied
that:,it wo��d not be feasibl.e;.' it woald� be encroaching over the
'rieighbor's property; it would involve obtaining_written.per.-
mission from.the owner of.the adjacent pro��rty, and it�wauld
not-be reasonable to rest�ict aerials to the side_yards. ,
The Commi,ssion� agreed unanimous�.y tliat 60' hei,ght, would. be,_
sufficient to get 3V� signals; �rhe• normal hei�;lit ;o�;,a TV .ae�.ial
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Mr.��l2oland Fitzgerald, East Est Drive� 'coramented . that height
is a matter of adequate receiving; most of the being
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: Comm. TXaeum i� �h�eight limit�ations 'would be retroactive.
The "City Attorne�r sa�d �:it i�ou:ld not;� t'his �shoul�i: "be clarified
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Comm, Traeumer questioned the.def?n�tion af "mast".and suggested �•'
�'the wo�d "retractable" be iuser*_e3 in Sec. 65.2(b). �'urthex,.can
-' retraction�of masts be enforc�d? It was pointed�out that
would voluntarily crarik them dovm when not used because,of expen-
sive wear and tear if th�� were ke�t up continuously.. ,
The Director of Public Works sug;ested that a 71' height limitation
be allowed, provided that it is a retractabie�type, and 60' i€ it
-" is a permanent, fi.xed type. .In answer to a question from the Com-
mission,� the Director` of Pub�lic. �iJorlcs answered tltat a fixed tower
� does have guy wires..- . . ' ' �
' Chairman Johnson sugges;t'ed:,Che.Planning Commissian approve only
the 60' height, with a.�'comment to the'City Council nn the.suggested
,71.`.height for crank-type aerials. �
�.� Sec. 68.2: Mr. Raland Fitzgerald commented on waod towers not
� exceedfng the�20' height; they could be confused with wood po�es.
Ham operators normally put up two 20' poles with a wire stretched
between them,'and he�has.been told this was called a mast. Re-
commended by the Commission that Sec. 68.2 be corrected to 3elete
the words "shall not exceed.twenty (20) feet in height, and.."
Sec _ 68�3: No changes or additions.recommended. �
� Sec. 68.4: Reeommended that since normally a TV aerial is;
- located on Che ridge of the roof, and assu�ing the ridge line runs
� parallel to the front of the property Zine, it would be a3visable
to change the firsC sentence by deleting��the words "excee@ing a
height of twenty six (26) feet above g�ound level," an3 changing
� ` the number�of feet from 15' to.10` for the location.of the aeri�.l
to the,rear of the front.building setback�line. Comm. Traeumer �
commented that he would prefer that TV aerials not be seen from
; the front of the house, and suggested they be located on the rear
. portion of the roof,
Sec. 68.5: There was considerable discussion on guy wires over-
lapping adjoining property. .Comm. Frolich suggest�ed that a
notarized statement be recorded as part of the Deed on the property,
to protect•future owners of the property. Comm. Hirshon felt the
eneroachment could be left up to the parties� or� iiulivi�ivals con-
•cerned, to agree'on overlapping. Mr. Jacobs of 11076 Linda Vista
.:Drive,;felt that citizens and taxpayers should:be pro�ected by a
City Ordinance, against encroachment of ttiis.type.•.
Sec. 68.5 Recommended that the last sentence be.corrected to
� � read "without�t•he written consent of the owner of said easement."
.Sec. 68.6: Recommended this Sectian be del`eted entirely, as this �
. , would an agreement between tenant and owner.
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- �' 5ec: 68.7 �'Re�omm�.n�ed.:that `the word. !'outside" ,be added to, the
''' sentence, - to � ind�.ca�te that aerials in: ic�e. the bµilding_will be
`allowed; ari�-``ta�rdelete•the phrase "aee�:restr,ic.�ions, or a�binding
•'� ` agreemerit;"'� bec�use �tliis is not in; th�, �lanning.. C.ommiss i_on's
�urisdicC�on:� � There �was ��:d�.scussio� as to whether., this , Section
, would be retroactive if underground utiliti.es were 3nstalled;
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� suggested� this Secticsrn� be- deleted in,�3.ts entirety :froui ,this':
' Ordinance, �and.•be in�luded in 'the ,Underground Utility �Ordinance
� '' cahen it is•'�ari�ta�•:<' Mr. �Keith Bower•, 1.1.1D6 .Linda� Vista. Drive,
said his area does have "streamlined" ut�.li�ies at px�sent;�and
asked that the definition of aerial be cZarified to distinguish
� betiweeti ` totaers =�and � masts�.� •� �he :P.la�ning ; Director.. indica�ed . the City
�� �� iaould lilce to enforee central antennas eventua.11y., ���� �
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Sec. 68.8: The staff recommended this Section be eliminated,
siri�' �e his'funetio�i�.mentioned.is�:aZway,s the duty of the Building
•�;' �aDapartment and doe� not �have to� be specified- by..this � Qrdiriance.
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Sec;;� 63:9:'= Comm. Hirehon ask�d�-��ahy. a-Us.e Permit rather �fhan a
Vari`�nce �irocednre. is required. her�. The Planning ��3irector
� arisw�red� �Chat' Variances, are mainly. far hardship. cases, an�i have
to be approved by the City Council; a Use Permit is granted by
the Planning` Commission. �It� was• alsa, pointecl out,.that a Variance
is more binding to the City, whereas a Use Permit can be•tem-
. po�rar''X; 'or �renawec� �on a sched.ule, : ; . :;, . , .: ,. �
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�' 'It was recommen�ed by .the ;Commiss;ion tq change Che ; word�ing in the
' -` first� sentence of t�f.s se.ction, as.� fo.11ows;- ':'.Where n�.ed for
��: - 'greater�height or"oth�r modificat�ons can Ue a��onstra�,�a �o the
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� satisfaetiori��of the Planning..Qommis�ion," this,.can be.allowed without
`� `detriment to �the �ie�ghborhood. .. .. r.. .This would ��cielete the phrase
"technical"rea�on�," because•this.wording too ambiguous.
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. Mr. Walter Ward, General Manager of Va11co. Pa,rk,�pointed.out that
in Sec. 69.I and 69.4 a"P" Zone is specified,�but it is iiot
� ' 'Iisted�in i4ppendiX�A.�� He suggested it:be,included here. : The
�= P1`annin ' Di.�ector • fai1l correct �his.. � - : ,� � � .
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� '�Mr. 3o'seph Gunn; •'of Pacific �as. and E].ectri,c, Company, , a¢ked whether
� in'stal�ation of � their.- xadio tower,.on .$ Ave�ue should be
processed'�througl� a Use Permiz procedure.. The �Planning.Director
indicated that Sec. 68.9 would cover this. �
�'Comru�'-�raeumer�suggested that::in.Sec. ,65.�2, an.aeY�:a3 ��ie.desig-
nated as a stzucture rather than a device. �
Mr. Don Cor►ant,� 22433 Bafuatrol,.Gaurt,� ask4d,,wha�r ��the��final
decision was on the crank-up tow�rs; was the 60' height to be
the limitation? Chairman Johnson replied thl� the b0' limitation
has been agreed upon ty the entire Cou¢nission; however, it has
been recommended by the Director of Public Works that an aerial
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of the crank-up type be allowed to 71'. This possibility will be
discussed further at tYce next H�aring, and the City Council wi11
be advised of the Planning Commission discussion.
Comm. Frolich wondered F�hether a penalty clause should be included
in the Ordinance, for any violations of the Ordinance. The other
Commissioners felt this would not be necessary.
Moved by Camm. Z`raeumer, seconded by Comm. Frolich, that the
Second Hearing on Ordinance 220(g) be continued at the next regular
meeting.
Motion carried, 4-0
VII UNFINTSHED BUSINESS
There was none.
VTII NEW BUSINESS
See Item III
, IX ADJOURNMENT
Tt was unanimously moved that the meeting be adjourned at 12:30 A.M.
F PPROVED:
/s/ Robert Johnson
Chairman, Planning Commission
ATTEST:
�Director of Planning
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