P&R 12-04-08APPROVED MINUTES
PARKS AND 11~,CREA"LION COMMISSION
CITY OF CUPERTINO
Regular Meeting
Thursday, December 4, 2008 at '7:00 p.m.
Community Hall Council Chamber
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Greenstein called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. in the Community Hall
Council Chamber, 10350 Torre Avenue, Cupertino, CA.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL
Commissioners present: David Greenstein, Jeanne Bradford, David Lee,
Darcy Paul, and Debbie Stephens Stauffer
Staff present: Mark Linder, Donna Henriques, Tim Coles, Molly
James an<i Tom Walters
MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETII~~GS
A. Regular meeting of November 6, 2008
Action: Commissioner Bradford made a motion to approve the
minutes. Commissioner P:iul asked make three amendments to
the minutes.
1. On the second action for the motions on Item 7A, he would like
the minutes to state his reason for voting no: "on the basis of
incomplete consideration of options for fenced dog parks."
2. On the action for the motion on Item 8A, he would like the
minutes to state: "the Commission look into the possibility of
changing the current lease in a timely manner."
3. On the action for Item 8B, he would like the minutes to state
his reason for abstaining: "and requesting that Council
provide more guidance as to the possible changes."
Approval of the minutes was deferred until the January 8, 2009
Commissioner Paul could :submit his amendment to Item 8A.
5. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS -None
6. PRESENTATION
A. Tim Coles, Recreation Coordinator for Blackberry Farm Golf
Course, gave a presentation on the history and current state of the
golf course.
7. NEW BUSINESS
A. Discussion of draft policies and procedures and green policies, for
the Stevens Creek Corridor Trail and Blackberry Farm.
Director Linder introduced Mol:~y James and Tom Walters who gave a
presentation and answered quesr_ions on the proposed policies for the
Stevens Creek Trail.
The following individuals spoke: on this issue:
Deborah Jamison and Janet Van Zoeren presented pictures of
hard concrete bike trails and how they are affected by bicycle
usage over time. The pictures showed that bicyclists tend to veer
off the trails and form their own dirt access roads or trails, which
destroys plant vegetatiori and can harm wildlife habitat.
Janet is also concerned v~ith signage posted on the new trail
especially, at the junctio~~s between the old and newly restored trail
and feel that it's important to have bicyclists slow down at those
junctions. Deborah also handed out a letter that she had written to
the Commissioners in 2005 regarding the trail use discussion at a
Parks and Recreation Commission meeting at that time.
Margot Tenold said that she is concerned about having bikes and
dogs on the trail in McC-lellan Ranch wildlife area and that the
rules of the new trail should be strictly enforced.
Commissioners' comments included:
• Add NO SMOKING to proposed trail rules and policies
• Need a specific policy on dogs on short leash
• Trail surface is pervious and is €;ood for wheelchairs, strollers and
tricycles but is not good for speed bicyclists
• Add signage to list of policies regarding dogs on trail -rules need to be
closely monitored to protect wildlife and keep dogs on the trail
• Possibly having NO dogs on trai'1
• Speed limit on trail should be lowered to 5 or 7 mph -especially when
passing pedestrians
• How many people are expected to use the trail and what is the
environmental impact?
• Need creative ways to keep people on the trail, ie. wood fences
• Will allowing dogs on the trail disrupt the 4H animals that are in the pens
close to the trail?
• Possibly having people and their dogs earn the right to use the trail by
attending training and taking a test
• Need to have penalties for violating the rules posted on signage
• Post on signage that owners are responsible to clean up after their pets
• What about alcohol on/off the trail?
Molly James and Tom Walters presented the proposed rules and policies for Blackberry
Farm. These rules and policies would pertain to the entire park including the picnic area,
fields and swimming pool area, but would exclude the trail. Molly recommended adding
NO paint guns to the weapons restrictions.
The following individuals asked to speak on this issue:
Deborah Jamison and Janet Van Zoereri presented pictures of signage in parks.
They are concerned about protecting small (new) plants and feel the signage
should reflect protecting sensitive areas. Fencing around sensitive areas could
also be used for protection, in addition 'to signs.
Janet Van Zoeren said there should be rnore consistency of the rules throughout
the park and there should not be separate policies in each area. She also feels that
the rules should say that "Recycling is Required".
Commissioners' comments included:
• What are the plant species that sire susceptible to being trampled?
• Need stronger verbiage for recycling -and include "thank you"
• Governance and enforcement ol~ rules is very important
• Possibly allow bounce houses for certain events
• Should have many recycling receptacles available throughout the park'
• Confusing having NO dogs allo-wed in the park, but they are allowed on
the trail
• Should there be specific policies; for each area, like "picnic area, meadow
area, bocce fields area or more consistent rules throughout the park?
• Strongly enforce recycling
• Management responsible for enforcing the policies has the right to ask
people to leave if they do not follow the posted rules
• Should have fines and penalties listed for breaking specific rules
Molly James and Tom Walters then presented the proposed Green rules and policies for
the entire park and trail areas.
Janet Van Zoeren asked to speak on the proposed Green policies and said that no
butterflies or other live insects or animals should be released in the park.
Commissioners' comments included:
• Will small packs of recyclable containers and silverware be available for
purchase?
• Add NO confetti and other materials allowed to the list
• Add NO live animals allowed to be released
• Provide specific signage about Green issues
• Strongly recommend "zero waste"
B. Update (verbal report) on community building projects including Kaboom
and Adopt-A-Park.
Director Mark Linder said that Ywo people will be coming to the January
8, 2009 Commission meeting. He asked if the Commissioners had any
specific questions for them to ariswer at the meeting.
The Commissioner's questions included the following:
• What is the retention of ~rolunteer staff over time?
• What are some of the ch:~llenges that the Commission should know
ahead of time?
• What are all the elements to incorporate into choosing the park?
• How many parks are adopted and how many are not?
Director Linder gave an update ~~n the Kaboom project and said that he
has applied to Rotary for their a~inual golf tournament fund-raiser. In
addition, he has asked Rotary to be the Community agency to sign the
agreement with Kaboom. The k;aboom playground will replace the
existing playground in Blackberry Farm. Also, the Teen Commission has
expressed interest in being involved in this project.
9. MISCELLANEOUS - NO ACTION REQUIRED
A. Staff oral reports
Director Linder said that there were no dates available in January to
reserve Community Hall to haves the next community meeting on the dog
park issue. Therefore, he sugge:~ted that we have the meeting on February
5, 2009 at the regular Parks and Recreation Commission meeting and the
Commissioners agreed.
B. Commissioner contacts
Commissioner Stauffer asked to put the Simms property issue on the
January 8, 2009 meeting agenda so that a subcommittee can be formed
and begin to look into the land u.se. Director Linder said that he spoke
with Community Development Director, Steve Piasecki and that currently,
the land use for the Simms property connects to the McClellan Ranch land
use plan, but the zoning for the Simms property is residential. In order to
correct the zoning and make it consistent with the land use plan, the item
should be addressed by the Commission in order to ask the Planning
Commission to change the zoning.
Action: Commissioner Stauffer made a motion to put the Simms
property land use issue on the January 8, 2009 agenda.
Commissioner Bradford secocided the motion. The motion carried
unanimously.
Chair Greenstein said that he attended the Mayor's meeting in November.
10. ADJOURNMENT -Chair Greenstein adjourned the meeting at 9:08 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Donna Henriques, Administrati~~ Assi~ctant
Minutes approved at the January 8. 2009 regular meeting.