P&R 11-07-2024
CITY OF CUPERTINO
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
10185 N Stelling Rd, Quinlan Conference Room
Thursday, November 7, 2024
7:00 PM
APPROVED MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Shearin called the Parks and Recreation Commission meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
in the Quinlan Community Center Conference Room, 10185 N Stelling Rd.
ROLL CALL
Commissioners present: Jennifer Shearin, Hemant Buch, Seema Swamy (7:02 p.m.),
Carol Stanek, Claudio Bono
Commissioners absent: None
Staff present: Jenny Koverman, Jessica Javier, Sonya Lee, Susan Michael,
Chad Mosley
Guest speakers: Gabe Johnson
CEREMONIAL MATTERS AND PRESENTATIONS
1. Subject: Teen Programs
Recommended Action: Receive a presentation on Teen Commission, Youth Activity
Board, and Recreation Event Volunteers.
Jenny Koverman, Recreation Manager, introduced Sonya Lee, Recreation Manager, to
present on the item. Presented on the Teen Commission, Youth Activity Board (YAB),
and Recreation Event Volunteers (REV).
Chair Shearin requested clarification on general trends in participation for teen events.
Recreation Manager Lee reviewed general changes in the following teen events:
- Pizza and Politics: Lower participation coming out of COVID, but the 2024 event
had an estimated 80 to 100 participants.
- Speaker Series: Started online during COVID, but now starting in person and
slowly getting more participation.
- Spelling Bee: Continues to sell out.
- Teen Resource Fair: New event that combines Bobateeno, a former event focused
on mental health resources, and the Job Fair, promotion of Parks and Recreation
summer job opportunities. The new event takes place at Main Street in
partnership with the local high school district and they saw an increase in
participation in comparison to having two separate events.
- HACK: Continues to grow, however, they added a fee this past year and saw a
drop in participation.
- Cupertino Café: Noticed that the December event for mid-year finals had higher
participation, verses their event held at the end of the school year so moving
forward they will consolidate into one event.
- Movie Nights: Starting to see higher participation post COVID.
Chair Shearin requested event participation numbers be included for next year’s
presentation.
Vice Chair Buch requested clarification on the recruitment of teens and what the selling
point is for teens to get involved. Recreation Manager Lee clarified that the selling point
is the more formal teen groups where they can work towards leadership roles and
adding to their resume. Added that they send out direct mailings to the schools.
Vice Chair Buch requested clarification on whether or not the lower school enrollments
have impacted the recruitment of teens. Recreation Manager Lee clarified that it has not
had an impact and interest is still high.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2. Subject: September 5, 2024 Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes
Recommended Action: Review and approve the September 5, 2024 Parks and
Recreation Commission meeting minutes.
Commissioner Bono motioned to approve the September 5, 2024 Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting minutes as submitted. Commissioner Swamy seconded. Motion
carried with 4 yes (Shearin, Buch, Swamy, Bono) and 1 abstain (Stanek).
3. Subject: October 3, 2024 Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes
Recommended Action: Review and approve the October 3, 2024 Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting minutes.
Commissioner Bono motioned to approve the October 3, 2024 Parks and Recreation
Commission meeting minutes as submitted. Commissioner Stanek seconded. Motion
carried with 3 yes (Buch, Stanek, Bono) and 2 abstain (Shearin, Swamy).
POSTPONEMENTS
None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Doug Gor, Cupertino resident, supported pickleball and the addition of pickleball
courts in the Memorial Park Specific Plan.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Written communications were emailed to the Commission and are included for the
record.
OLD BUSINESS
None
NEW BUSINESS
4. Subject: Capital Improvement Program Photovoltaic Systems Design and Installation
project
Recommended Action: Recommend that City Council approve the Capital
Improvement Program Photovoltaic Systems Design and Installation project's
conceptual design for five City facilities: Cupertino Library, Community Hall,
Cupertino Sports Center, Blackberry Farm, and Quinlan Community Center.
Written communications for this item were emailed to the Commission and are
included for the record.
Recreation Manager Koverman introduced Susan Michael, Capital Improvement
Programs (CIP) Manager, to present on the item. Presented on the photovoltaic (PV)
systems design and installation project background, project site conceptual design, cost
and savings projections, and next steps.
Commissioner Bono requested clarification on when the project was reviewed with the
[Sustainability] Commission. CIP Manager Michael clarified October 17.
Commissioner Bono requested clarification on the design of the actual solar panels and
whether or not staff has a picture of the panels. CIP Manager Michael clarified they do
not have a photo of the panel, but it is likely a solar panel on top of a steel structure if it
is freestanding.
Commissioner Bono requested clarification on whether or not maintenance costs were
included. CIP Manager Michael clarified that maintenance is not included. Added that
ongoing maintenance would be done in-house or through an external contract.
Commissioner Bono requested clarification on whether or not staff have taken into
consideration the change in upcoming [presidential] administration. CIP Manager
Michael clarified that City Council would approve a budget for the actual upfront costs
of the project, regardless of the $3.7 million government rebate. Added that the Inflation
Reduction Act (IRA) has been around for 20 years, and the only difference within the
last few years is that non-taxpayers can now participate (cities, counties, and states).
With that being said, staff doesn’t know whether or not that will go away.
Commissioner Bono requested clarification on whether or not the panels will reflect
light or have any associated lighting. CIP Manager Michael clarified that there are no
lights on the panels. Added that the solar panels typically have a shiny surface that
could cause a glare, however, to experience the glare someone would need to be above
that.
Commissioner Swamy requested clarification on the positive impact that the project has
on parks and recreation. CIP Manager Michael clarified that it is a visible marker that
the City is trying to generate energy in an effective and responsible way, some locations
would be providing shade, and the cost benefit in savings.
Commissioner Swamy requested clarification on whether or not the project would
cause significant closures during construction and the length of time associated. CIP
Manager Michael clarified that they aren’t anticipating any construction-related facility
closures, however, there could be parking lot impacts to the portions being worked on.
Construction would begin as soon as possible through April 2026 depending on supply
chain.
Commissioner Swamy accepted the value offered for the generation of energy for the
requirements of Cupertino and [requested clarification] for the extra energy generation
as to what the benefit was [and] was it finally economic for income generation.
Commissioner Swamy [noted that] she sees the value offered for the requirements for
Cupertino. CIP Manager Michael clarified that it is an investment with an immediate
cost-savings impact.
Commissioner Swamy requested clarification on whether or not staff have compared
costs to the industry standard.
Commissioner Swamy requested clarification on the criteria for prospective contractors.
Commissioner Swamy requested clarification on revenue estimation for five, 10, and 15
years. CIP Manager Michael clarified that the industry standard is annual over the 30-
year lifecycle.
Vice Chair Buch requested clarification on the estimated maintenance costs. CIP
Manager Michael clarified that the costs were built into the savings projections.
Vice Chair Buch requested clarification on the Quinlan site, specifically the benefit for
any excess energy generated. CIP Manager Michael clarified that the amount of money
saved (or energy sold back to PG&E) depends on when the energy is used (peak
demand, etc.).
Vice Chair Buch requested clarification on whether or not the excess costs are factored
into the payback period. CIP Manager Michael clarified that all costs are factored into
the payback period.
Vice Chair Buch requested clarification on whether or not the [construction] contract
will include penalty clauses, and if the contract will include construction costs
associated with roof upgrades, etc. CIP Manager Michael clarified that there is no
contract currently, but typically all City contracts include a penalty if a contractor does
not meet the schedule. Clarified that the construction costs do account for any roof
upgrades, any EV parking required, permitting costs, etc.
Commissioner Stanek requested clarification on the calculation of the $500,000 savings
annually and $26.5 million over a 30-year lifespan. CIP Manager Michael clarified that it
takes into consideration the [utility] escalation.
Commissioner Stanek requested clarification on how long the grandfathered [NEM 2.0]
rates are for. CIP Manager Michael clarified 20 years and that it is included in the
lifecycle costs as well.
Commissioner Stanek requested clarification on the green bubbles in the images of the
sites. CIP Manager Michael clarified the green bubbles represent the shade impact.
Commissioner Stanek requested clarification on the application and the maximum 20%
reduction. CIP Manager Michael clarified that the initial application included estimates
of kilowatts (kWH) for each site, and in order to keep the NEM 2.0 rates they can only
vary 20% lower per site.
Commissioner Stanek requested clarification on the increase in proposed budget from
the initial estimated $6 million. CIP Manager Michael clarified it was due to the details
and consideration of various costs (structural roofing, car ports, etc.). Gabe Johnson,
Account Executive for Syserco Energy Solutions, Inc., added that the initial costs were
based on price per watt industry standards, however, since then there has been
estimation in costs, contractor inputs, changes in code for EV charges, and ADA costs
increases.
Commissioner Stanek brought up a resident recommendation to separate the EV
chargers and solar panels at the Blackberry Farm site and requested clarification on
whether or not EV chargers were required for the site. CIP Manager Michael clarified
that the current project focuses on PV systems, however, due to changes in building
codes it does require more EV parking to the impacted areas. Added that the current
project also does not include battery backup.
Commissioner Stanek requested clarification on the return on investment concept. CIP
Manager Michael clarified that the return on investment takes into account higher
construction costs verses the benefit. For example, the Community Hall site has a short
return on investment time because it requires simple installation, whereas Blackberry
Farm requires infrastructure resulting in a longer return on investment time.
Chair Shearin requested clarification on whether or not the connection to the grid
requires PG&E to approve everything by [April 15, 2026]. CIP Manager Michael
clarified yes it would require final approval by that date from PG&E.
Chair Shearin requested clarification on whether or not PG&E could change the NEM
2.0 rates to NEM 3.0 rates during the 20-year period. Syserco Account Executive
Johnson clarified that the legislature could change the rates, however, it would be up to
the California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC).
Chair Shearin requested clarification on whether or not the IRA encompasses all costs
associated with the project or just the PV systems. CIP Manager Michael clarified that it
includes the solar panels and infrastructure created to support the solar panels but not
the EV chargers.
Chair Shearin requested clarification on the Library site regarding parking closures [for
construction]. CIP Manager Michael clarified that the parking closures would be
segmented.
Chair Shearin opened public comment.
San R, Cupertino resident, expressed concerns regarding the Sports Center site
including potential facility closure, lighting hitting the tennis courts, and project
approval prior to the new City Council. Also expressed concerns regarding roofing
costs associated with the impact of PV installation.
Rhoda Fry, Cupertino resident, echoed San R and expressed concerns regarding project
costs including EV charger costs given the budget deficit. Also expressed concerns
regarding the Blackberry Farm site including light pollution, driveway traffic and
public safety, installation in a flood zone, and ongoing maintenance.
Chair Shearin closed public comment.
Commissioner Swamy expressed concerns regarding whether or not this is the best
investment for revenue generation.
Commissioner Bono requested clarification on whether or not the grant can be
rescinded after the City has already entered into the agreement. CIP Manager Michael
clarified that until there is an agreement in place, nothing is guaranteed. Syserco
Account Executive Johnson added that at the conclusion of the project, paperwork is
submitted in the following tax year to receive the incentive through the program.
Commissioner Stanek requested clarification on whether or not staff has looked into
cost increases if the City does not move forward with the project. CIP Manager Michael
clarified that the energy costs for each site without solar panels in in [Attachment B – PC
project costs savings] and will continue to go up without generating any energy to reduce
our costs.
Chair Shearin requested clarification on whether or not there is some sort of shades at
the Sports Center tennis courts. Recreation Manager Koverman clarified that there are
wind screens on the courts, however, car headlights still come through. Added that
Public Works has tried to allow the bushes to grow to help mitigate the issue. Chair
Shearin requested clarification on whether or not there was something that could be
done to mitigate the lighting issue at the tennis courts. CIP Manager Michael clarified
that there is a possibility, but it would add additional costs.
Chair Shearin requested clarification on whether or not roofing replacement costs [for
future if replacements were needed] were incorporated into the project costs. CIP
Manager Michael clarified that she does not believe that is included. Syserco Account
Executive Johnson added that the roofs that the solar panels are going on should
withstand for the 30-year lifecycle of the panels.
Commissioner Bono motioned to recommend that City Council approve the Capital
Improvement Program Photovoltaic Systems Design and Installation project's
conceptual design for three City facilities: Community Hall, Cupertino Sports Center,
and Quinlan Community Center. Commissioner Stanek seconded.
Chair Shearin made a friendly amendment to include the Library if there was an
agreement with the Santa Clara County Library District and they would pay a
substantive amount. Commissioner Bono and Commissioner Stanek accepted the
friendly amendment.
The motion as amended with the friendly amendment carried unanimously.
STAFF AND COMMISSION REPORTS
Recreation Manager Koverman presented the Liaison’s update as submitted.
Chair Shearin reported on the Mayor’s Commissioners meeting.
FUTURE AGENDA SETTING
None
ADJOURNMENT
Chair Shearin adjourned the meeting at 9:00 p.m. to the December 5, 2024 meeting at
7:00 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted by,
Jessica Javier, Administrative Assistant
Parks and Recreation Department
Minutes approved at the 01.23.25 special meeting